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TL Mafia XXXIV: Pokemafia

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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 07 2010 02:41 GMT
#11
/in

Not too experienced at mafia but it should be fun.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 10 2010 02:21 GMT
#256
On December 10 2010 09:33 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2010 09:25 Node wrote:
On December 10 2010 09:12 Hesmyrr wrote:
On December 10 2010 09:05 Node wrote:
At the moment, the only situation that I can think of that would warrant a roleclaim anytime soon would be if you are mew and have found mewtwo. Until then, keep your damn mouths shut as far as your role goes.

+ Alakazam guilty result? And yes, PM or no PM, succinctness is critical.


I'd prefer that a claim on a guilty result be used as a last resort -- push the lynch with analysis and if that doesn't work play the roleclaim card.

Alright, I realized I forgot to put that into consideration though I really don't see what is different from detective trying to stealthily formulate case on his guilty to mew trying to stealthily formulate case on the mewtwo


The difference is that the Mew's only purpose is to catch the Mewtwo. Once he has found Mewtwo, he can claim because it doesn't really matter if Team Rocket knows his role after the Mewtwo is lynched. The Alakazam, on the other hand, very much wants to keep his role hidden, so he should try doing a more standard analysis to get his guilty lynched without exposing himself. Then he can survive and try to get another guilty.

About inactives; I've only played a couple of forum mafia games on another site, but I've played a bunch of Epic Mafia and lynching lurkers is a pretty standard strategy that works more often than not there. Of course, in a forum game with a lot of new players the dynamics are much different but that's my experience. Someone mentioned that it's harder to get a read on all these new players... for us new players, everyone is new!
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 11 2010 00:38 GMT
#356
Yeah we still have over 24h afaik.

I haven't voted yet and I probably won't until closer to the deadline.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 12 2010 03:03 GMT
#448
Well we are getting dangerously close to the end of the day. I've been following the thread closely but I haven't found a lot to add. The votes are pretty close atm, so my vote may be very important. It seems to be a lynch on either kenpachi or zeks. I find zeks to be more suspicious with his overly defensive attitude when people weren't even voting for him. Also, I havent played with anyone here before so I take it on faith that Kenpachi acts scummy no matter what role he is. Still will keep an eye on him, of course.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 12 2010 18:06 GMT
#481
On December 13 2010 02:27 LSB wrote:
GGQ: Since you've played forum mafia before, could you provide links of some of your games?


Certainly.

http://altitudegame.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5096
http://altitudegame.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5341

You'll see that the level of play in the games I've linked is much much lower than it is here. I feel like I'm in a little over my head atm lol, but I'll do my best to rise to the challenge.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 13 2010 01:51 GMT
#517
On December 13 2010 06:06 LSB wrote:
Previous data is increadbily important to attempt to figure out differences in play.
GGQ is inactive this game, and I've vertifying if he actually could play the newbie card.
From the few pages I browsed, GGQ is a pretty active player. This is considerable different from what is happening in this thread.


It's certainly true that I've been very quiet in this thread compared to the Altitude Mafia 5.0 thread, which I assume is the one you looked at. But the reason for that can be explained easily. For one thing, I knew most of the people in that game quite well from playing Altitude with them for months, which made it easier for me to analyse their posts and behavior. Also, the Altitude Mafia games used clues, which I found easier to post about than trying to scumhunt based purely off of posts by people that I don't know at all. And for the record, I was mafia in that game :D.

But I'll talk about something that seems really important to me that nobody is discussing:

On December 12 2010 12:38 zeks wrote:
I think I'm dead ?

Oceanic
meapak
Hesmyrr
infundibulum

Please take a good look at these people especially infun. Votes came off him way too easily and the people who voted for him got mobbed immediately for the dumbest reasons.

Cheers and at least u didnt get a blue



On December 12 2010 12:43 zeks wrote:
after the FoS on me no one even bothered to post once to defend me


These posts are obviously intended to be seen as the point of view of a green who believes he's been lynched and is giving his last words. However, when I made my vote (which turned out to be the last one), the most recent votecount (which has since been edited to show the final votecount...) showed Kenpachi leading over zeks by two votes, and after that votecount there were three votes for Kenpachi and four for zeks. My vote was 40 minutes before zeks' "I'm dead" post, which gives him plenty of time to count the votes and add some small numbers together and see that Kenpachi was getting lynched, not him. (There is the fact that KtheZ voted zeks twice because he forgot to 'unvote' the first time, but even then the vote would be a tie and Kenpachi would still have been lynched). I have a hard time believing that zeks could miscount the votes so badly with his life on the line. I think these posts really force us to polarize our view on zeks.

You either believe that he's an innocent pikachu who fails at simple math, or that he's confirmed TR because no town role would fake those posts. I strongly feel that he's scum.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 14 2010 20:44 GMT
#600
On December 13 2010 10:51 GGQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2010 12:38 zeks wrote:
I think I'm dead ?

Oceanic
meapak
Hesmyrr
infundibulum

Please take a good look at these people especially infun. Votes came off him way too easily and the people who voted for him got mobbed immediately for the dumbest reasons.

Cheers and at least u didnt get a blue



Show nested quote +
On December 12 2010 12:43 zeks wrote:
after the FoS on me no one even bothered to post once to defend me


These posts are obviously intended to be seen as the point of view of a green who believes he's been lynched and is giving his last words. However, when I made my vote (which turned out to be the last one), the most recent votecount (which has since been edited to show the final votecount...) showed Kenpachi leading over zeks by two votes, and after that votecount there were three votes for Kenpachi and four for zeks. My vote was 40 minutes before zeks' "I'm dead" post, which gives him plenty of time to count the votes and add some small numbers together and see that Kenpachi was getting lynched, not him. (There is the fact that KtheZ voted zeks twice because he forgot to 'unvote' the first time, but even then the vote would be a tie and Kenpachi would still have been lynched). I have a hard time believing that zeks could miscount the votes so badly with his life on the line. I think these posts really force us to polarize our view on zeks.

You either believe that he's an innocent pikachu who fails at simple math, or that he's confirmed TR because no town role would fake those posts. I strongly feel that he's scum.


Bringing this up again because people keep saying things like "we don't know for sure about zeks" or "he's suspicious so we'll keep an eye on him" etc. That doesn't make any sense. Anyone who isn't voting zeks today is saying that they think he's a pikachu who can't add small numbers together when his game life is in the balance. It seems far more likely to me that he's a TR who went for a gambit to appear innocent because he knew Kenpachi would flip green and he was next on the list. He was the best lynch yesterday and he's the best lynch today. Voting zeks.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 16 2010 04:36 GMT
#748
Paindain took over for Hesmyrr who claimed he took a hit from the voltorb that went off earlier.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 16 2010 04:36 GMT
#749
EBWOP

Which means that he was already down to one life.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 17 2010 19:23 GMT
#845
On December 18 2010 02:54 LSB wrote:
Well its pretty clear why the mafia are now...

Its a pity that there isn't enough active townies to stop them...


Care to explain who they are then? I'd love to win this game, but the strongest lead I was able to find so far turned out to be wrong, and I couldn't confidently point to any TR right now. I'm not going to fill the thread with accusations or analysis that I don't believe in just to contribute. That's what I'd do if I was mafia.

I'll give my thoughts. D3 really had no choice but to out himself as Mewtwo. He had already claimed that he took a hit last night, and he was right that TR is eliminating active townies. As an active townie claiming blue, he'd be a guaranteed target for tonight. When he didn't die it would be pretty clear that he was Mewtwo.

I think we have no choice but to work with him for now, but we obviously can't trust him. Town and SK can't win together, can they? I think his only chance is to try to re-balance the game and then side with mafia near the end to arrange a 1-1-1 for a TR/mewtwo joint win. So we have to watch out for the moment where he'll betray us.

I'm going to reread the thread before making a vote for today, but I'll be voting for a double-lynch when I do.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 18 2010 08:14 GMT
#913
TT
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 21 2010 02:59 GMT
#1062
Sorry guys, christmas parties with friends and family this weekend and my brother came home from england today. Skimmed the thread, I think I'm three minutes ahead of cutoff? BTW if someone out there is detective and you haven't counter-claimed Node, you fail.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
December 21 2010 05:30 GMT
#1081
On December 21 2010 14:09 Gabriel wrote:
me town guy. just played really wrong im guessing kav, infun and ggq are the other side.


It's not me, I wonder if LSB is gengar who bussed shockeyy so he could direct town afterwards.
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