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SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 12 2010 02:58 GMT
#12
/int
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 26 2010 20:41 GMT
#241
I encourage people to reread their roles and ask about changes because I've noticed and asked (a) change(s) regarding certain role(s). I will not post the one(s) I've found to avoid revealing my role in the case where the information I've obtained is only available to the person with the role.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 27 2010 01:41 GMT
#285
On November 27 2010 09:21 kitaman27 wrote:
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On November 27 2010 05:41 SouthRawrea wrote:
I encourage people to reread their roles and ask about changes because I've noticed and asked (a) change(s) regarding certain role(s). I will not post the one(s) I've found to avoid revealing my role in the case where the information I've obtained is only available to the person with the role.


Ya it looks like the mods might have copied/pasted without modifying the entire role for Salem. We really shouldn't put up with their laziness.

Also, it might be beneficial to post if anyone has pm'd you fishing for role claims, as it would make sense for a mafia to try, now that DrH has posted a medic was so willing to give it up.


Well I've gotten no PMs because I've made it pretty clear that it should be a secretive thing that should be done to avoid having mafia inference peoples' roles through the information available to them.


On November 27 2010 08:21 Glasse wrote:
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On November 27 2010 08:07 Glasse wrote:
hi, don't waste a blue role on me, not worth it. (medic, dt, other stuff we have)

meatshield represent.



OH MY GOD

stop the pm spam, this meant green, not crazy thing with multiple hits


i'm useless so i'm a meat shield


If claiming green at the beginning of the game as WIFOM strategy was useful, everybody would do it. None of this please. NONE.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 27 2010 16:31 GMT
#335
On November 27 2010 17:04 DarthThienAn wrote:
Didn't you guys know? Protactinium is schizophrenic. That's why he said "we".

Seriously though, for those of you wondering, I'm voting for DrH currently because I think he's full of crap. Here's how I see it:

1) An actual medic roleclaimed to him: conclusion - medic is silly in the head, unless he's pulling shenanigans and claimed to someone else to bait mafia. Why? You don't know DrH's alignment, why would you RC with nothing in the game to look at? Simply because he's a "better player"? That's ridiculous -_-.

2) A mafia player claimed to him as medic - I'll agree that it's a little silly for mafia to RC medic, unless they plan on doing something fast. It would give DrH the power to "protect" certain players from mafia hits, by saying "protect this person". If that person gets hit, then the mafia gets outted.

3) A townie/non-medic claims medic - someone thinks they're good and is fishing. Otherwise, it's retarded.

4) DrH, mafia, lying, wants to make a huge ploy to become trusted in the town/get the names of some blues. And the "he'll attract too much attention" arguments don't apply here, because any mafia willing to attract attention is confident enough that they'll be able to handle/deflect it. I think this is more likely than the other 3 options, thought 1 is close. But with nothing to go on so far, this is my vote for now.

Also, I'd like to throw in that Protactinium's first post is retarded. I'd be happy to vote for him as well.


Considering the plays we've seen so far in this game, I would have to say that options 1 and 3 are highly possible. I feel like we're in the Maritimes with all the fishers we have: we've had TWO green claims in thread as well several PMs going around with claims which are presumably being used to gather info from newer players who may respond to them honestly. Fishing is most helpful for groups of players (i.e. Town circle or mafia) as you can have more information about a single thing to converge in your group. I feel that the most likely options here is that DrH is fishing for information regardless of role, that a new player legitimately claimed to him or someone else is fishing. Only 1 of these 4 (implied) options is mafia related and I feel that this is much too early in the game to quell this as we may actually have a town circle eventually form here (with DT checks and whatnot). I do encourage people to limit the amount of information given to DrH and ANYONE really to also limit the threat if they are actually mafia. Good? Now we need a different vote.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 27 2010 22:15 GMT
#376
He's not just looking for slipups but reactions. Also with mass PMs like this he begins establishing contacts immediately in the game causing to be a sort of convergence point of information.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 27 2010 23:31 GMT
#383
I feel that youngminii at this point in time has still been inactive for unreasonable amount of time for a game barring extraordinary situations. As my vote on DTA won't seem to have any effect for this day, I will be switching my vote to this inactive.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 27 2010 23:39 GMT
#385
Haha noww you show up.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 28 2010 00:05 GMT
#390
Okay it doesn't really matter to me which inactive gets lynched. In all honesty this second vote switch is happening because of some activity in PM land which has me convinced that many of the reasons to vote Kenpachi are squishy like jello while BrownBear has yet to respond. Youngmini has also begun talking and as rushed as his post may be, at least he isn't inactive. Vote goes to Brownbear.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 28 2010 01:29 GMT
#443
Okay please please please! Some of you really need to touch up on your reading skills. The Chaos Ensuant DID know who he was (read the role description). Also please consider the fact that it is highly likely that there is more than 1 chaos ensuant. Also try not to overstate things. (Ex: I heavily defend myself from attacks)
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 28 2010 01:34 GMT
#449
On November 28 2010 10:30 DarthThienAn wrote:
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On November 28 2010 10:29 SouthRawrea wrote:
Okay please please please! Some of you really need to touch up on your reading skills. The Chaos Ensuant DID know who he was (read the role description). Also please consider the fact that it is highly likely that there is more than 1 chaos ensuant. Also try not to overstate things. (Ex: I heavily defend myself from attacks)

I think what was meant is that no one but the CE knew who he was. So ie. Kenpachi is mafia, mafia don't know BB's role, mafia all jump on BB to save Kenpachi.

Just throwing out a hypothetical situation.


Ah I'm such a hyprocrit. D: I was raging about the role thing with annul.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 28 2010 03:24 GMT
#457
Looks like you're calling all the shots. You can choose who the medic protects and you're the only one that's giving advice to a DT for checks. Question: Why announce in public for the medic claimer to protect you when you can just PM them? Isn't that a little strange? Also some more confusion lies with how you only consider yourself a maybe for a DT check while Darth is priority #1. DT claiming to you is a big nono because if you're a traitor or godfather it could be lights out for town on Day 2. Also the whole DT mouthpiece thing isn't entirely trustworthy and I think that the mouthpiece should claim in public rather than solely to you if such a situation does end up occuring.

This whole medic claiming to you thing is becoming less trustable to me. I consider that either a slip-up or a pointless action of WIFOM that would've already been considered by mafia as if you are a townie, then you are a threat to them. So which is it?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 28 2010 04:05 GMT
#459
Rather than saying nothing is certain, I was saying that there was a good chAnce that you're not townaligned and that if you're mafia that they may have elected you as elder because you're experienced and because of the pivotal role you have in the town ATM. (It makes sense for the end of day 1 to be a deadline for a choice for elder and that's what it seems to indicate in the role description)
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 28 2010 04:12 GMT
#461
Kaykay as long as we're super careful about this we shouldn't be able to put ourselves at more of a risk than we already have with the damn medic claim. Remember: super careful D:
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 28 2010 04:17 GMT
#463
It's okay we're both clarifying in PM land.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 28 2010 14:43 GMT
#492
Scaramanga you obviously don't know how effective PMs have been in this game so far as you've been AFK FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. Don't run your mouth about something you've yet to be involved in. Also with a comparison between your analysis and Pandain's you can see one of them is obviously lacklustre and had little effort put into it. I advise that you either try again or avoid referring back to your own analysis in the future. (As I've seen in previous games. It really is painful to watch someone telling the rest of the town to read a shit analysis that they've already read and have it be the basis for the rest of the person's play). Basically what you said about Coag was: He has done nothing useful ergo he is mafia.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 28 2010 20:04 GMT
#528
I suggest that we move on.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 29 2010 00:27 GMT
#541
Just don't announce it here is what he is saying okay?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 29 2010 00:28 GMT
#542
EBWODP:
Nvm I get it.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 29 2010 02:10 GMT
#565
Lol I saw the ninja edit. .
The mafia's kills were strange though, I can only assume that Barundar and Aidnai were attempts at blue snipes while Deconduo was the kill of an active player who might have been on to something with his experiment regarding people switching votes to BrownBear everytime someone voted for Kenpachi. I suggest we start with possible DT mouthpieces to speak up if there is one at this point in the game.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 29 2010 02:16 GMT
#568
On November 29 2010 11:14 Kenpachi wrote:
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On November 29 2010 11:10 Amber[LighT] wrote:
This I received from Ghrur... I don't know if he was trying to keep me away from others, but he did provide a "list" he was suspicious of:

Hey, nights about to end, and we're about to get some new information, but before that happens, can I ask you what you think about Town's reasoning on who's mafia? I understand that I draw suspicion because I basically cemented Brownbear's lynch, and if we look at him as a townie, it's like, yeah durrr people who voted BB. But the thing is, I don't think that's actually a totally fair assumption to make. I mean, did you see Protact's way of "fishing?" I think it's the scum's way of getting in touch with the chaos ensuant. Then, guess what, Protact just happened to vote FOR Kenpachi to maybe help save Brownbear?

Anyway, I think it makes sense that mafia DID get in contact with BB, and in that case, we shouldn't be focusing on who voted BB, but who voted Kenpachi. This includes:
Barunder
Protactinium
Node
KtheZ
Youngminii

I'd say Node and Youngminii are fairly quiet, which both makes me think they could be lurking mafia. However, I'd like to get your opinion on this because while it makes sense, the rest of the town seemed to have just glossed over it. =/


Thanks for not killing me though, Ghrur. ^____^

You either got protected or he might be mindfucking you. Or he was planning on killing you the next night but i think this is quality info


Protection= impossible. 1 Bomb max + 3NK + No vig until N2. = 4 deaths
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