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KtheZ
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KtheZ
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4. KtheZ was a fairly active poster in insane mafia. Hooray for being the only person who gets little to no analysis at all :/ | ||
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KtheZ
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So by this reasoning, we have around 2 days (3/4 if the doctor is a BOSS and we dont lynch the vets) to lynch one of the mafia. Add in the fact that there is no detective role. It will be difficult to figure out who's who. Question: Deconduo, can both mafia MC people on the same night? Also, does the hunter still fire a shot if he is hit by the mafia? | ||
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KtheZ
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On November 12 2010 12:22 LSB wrote: Ah kk, was just scared for a while. All right to start. We should try taking down a scum straight at the start before they shed their skin. It's advantageous for the mafia to shed their skin fast. For example, take this night. Say we mess up day 1 lynch. And then night kill goes through somehow. And both mafia shed their skin. Bam 2v3 lylo. We got to stop them fast. And I propose we all roleclaim. Of course discuss the roleclaim before we actually do it. I'm not sure if roleclaiming is the best thing to do, since then mafia have free reign to MC whoever the hell they want. If mafia, say, MC jaedong, then town not only has to figure out its him, but we also lose one of our people, which would put us at a disadvantage at that point in the game. | ||
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KtheZ
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KtheZ
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On November 12 2010 13:47 youngminii wrote: EBWOP: I mean mafia won't be able to mindcontrol either of them. What stops mafia from MCing the shrink, if he protects the doctor? | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 12 2010 13:49 LSB wrote: Doctor doesn't protect against mafia mc. Btw I claimed tracker So since you claimed tracker, it is probably not a good idea for anyone else to roleclaim. This is because this leaves 2 people open for MC/hit. Then, the doctor will be at a loss as to who to protect, same for the shrink. You know what I just noticed? If there was someone i WANTED the mafia to MC, I would say the shrink. It makes sense, because since the mafia used a MC, the shrink's usefulness decreases anyway. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 12 2010 14:05 KtheZ wrote: So since you claimed tracker, it is probably not a good idea for anyone else to roleclaim. This is because this leaves 2 people open for MC/hit. Then, the doctor will be at a loss as to who to protect, same for the shrink. You know what I just noticed? If there was someone i WANTED the mafia to MC, I would say the shrink. It makes sense, because since the mafia used a MC, the shrink's usefulness decreases anyway. By this logic, it probably is better for the shrink to protect someone else rather than himself. however, if you see a flaw in my reasoning, please point it out. | ||
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On November 13 2010 04:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote: As host of the last game, I hope to be able to use some of the experience from that for scumhunting this game. At the very least, we can prevent mafia from doing the same shit they pulled in that game; spam the game with useless info that confuses town. This game is far smaller so it'll be easier for town to not get confused by lots of information. As for LSB's claim; I think it's highly important for the real tracker to report if LSB isn't the real one. We'll have one guaranteed mafia or force him to yakuza out if we get a counter claim. Just please, do not lie when claiming as town. As seen in previous games, this always ends in disaster where both players are townies and get lynched. See aeres last game. I agree with this completely. I would also like to add: Do not roleclaim if you are the medic. if you do, you will almost 100% be hit the next night, with no way to protect yourself. However, whether the shrink should roleclaim or not is debatable. | ||
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KtheZ
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We can assume you are town until someone else roleclaims. They better do it by the end of the night (so medic has a chance to protect either one of you, and so we basically find a mafia) Otherwise, you are confirmed as detective. | ||
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KtheZ
United States813 Posts
On November 14 2010 02:43 Glasse wrote: i'd suggest that the shrink guy protects himself for the first night :3 doctor can rng as the mafia pick will probably be random as well I suggest they all protect LSB. Since they are currently hidden, but LSB is shown to be tracker, it is best to protect LSB, since if mafia decides to hit one of the townies they might hit one of the two vets. The shrink should NOT protect himself; in fact, him getting MCed is good fortune for town. This is mainly because if mafia use one of their MCs on the shrink, his role becomes less useful ANYWAY. So thus, shrink should NOT protect himself, because getting MCed is pro-town for you. | ||
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KtheZ
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On November 14 2010 06:21 Glasse wrote: i fail to see how losing a town member is good for the town :3 It's better for town for the shrink to get MCed rather than, say the tracker or medic. Of course, it is most preferable for mafia to MC normal townies (or one of the vets), but what im trying to say is that the shrink should value the lives of the tracker and medic over his own. | ||
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KtheZ
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On November 14 2010 09:20 LSB wrote: All right, I've confirmed someone, I won't be revealing who I confirmed unless the person comes under suspicion from the town. (I will breadcrumb the person later if needed). Assuming artanis is right. That means that we have 3 confirmed townies. When then have 6 people not confirmed so far. I would take what artanis says with a grain of salt; we cant confirm if hes telling the truth or lying. | ||
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KtheZ
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I would say count him as a vet for now, but keep in mind that until the other vet roleclaims, we are not 100% sure he is vet. Generally, I think the mafia would benefit in roleclaiming vet because of 2 reasons. 1. It gives them a role that is unverifiable unless another vet roleclaims (and then we wait to see if anyone has objections) 2. Tracker probably wont track them. However, I would probably say artanis is telling the truth, considering that it would be one hell of an opening gambit for the mafia to play in this fashion. | ||
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KtheZ
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Artanis is probably telling the truth. | ||
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He said that he is neither calm nor clam, but nowhere in the rules said that the vet role would be both calm/clam. Unless another vet comes and refutes artanis's role pm claim (because it is safe to assume the other vet got the same pm), then we can say artanis really is town. | ||
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KtheZ
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On November 15 2010 03:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote: he didn't say he was neither calm nor clam he said he was either calm or clam, he just doesn't know which one big difference. we can't just accept artanis as 100% town. vet is one of the best fakeclaims for a mafia, but something about his play doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me as mafia. he's at the bottom of my suspects list really wish he refused to answer that question about his role pm. would have been such a good trap if he said he was calm and then some mafia said "well im clam" You know DrH, I was thinking the same thing. It would have been so much more convenient if a mafia claimed clam or something. But getting back on track: Artanis stated that in his role pm calm/clam were interchangeable, since he did not know which one he was. It is probably safe to assume the other vet also got the same PM. Since there is another vet, if they remain silent, it is most likely a confirmation that what artanis said is correct, and that he really is vet. If Artanis IS lying about his role, I would urge the other vet to tell us. However, while saying this, I also want to note that roleclaiming as the second vet may not be a good idea at this point. You would paint yourself as a prime target for MC. Anyway, if artanis is correct about his role PM, vet stay silent. If he is lying, sorry for the WIFOM, then real vet, you get to make a decision. | ||
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KtheZ
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On November 15 2010 04:23 deconduo wrote: Just fyi, mafia have a copy of all role PMs. Wait wtf, seriously? | ||
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