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Assassin In The Palace

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Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 05 2010 11:52 GMT
#14
/in please!
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 06 2010 05:23 GMT
#79
Hoho, game has begun.

For instance, assasin knows this meapak will not be the king. There is no PM coordination and 3 people have already voted him. Of course we will kill him now, but we do need to watch who is voting what. The BGs have to be a little bit more discreet. I respect meapak's willingness to die, but he has to know that every time a BG dies, the assasin increases his chances.

Why would you respect Meapak's willingness to die??? I'm pretty sure Meapak was joking with his self-vote; at least, I certain hope that he was. There is absolutely no point for anybody to be self-sacrificial. All the bodyguards know who the king is. Therefore, trying to get one of the other 7 players lynched over oneself has a better chance of hitting an assassin (1/7) versus sacrificing oneself (0/7). There's never going to be a circumstance where the King is going to get lynched, so there's no point in voting for Meapak if people strongly believe that he's a bodyguard.
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 06 2010 05:25 GMT
#81
Oops... Meapak posted while I was writing my own. Quote above by bumatlarge btw.
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 06 2010 13:03 GMT
#84
On November 06 2010 18:50 CubEdIn wrote:
Haha, good job guys. He accuses me, I say no tnx, I think you're the one who's being suspicious, and that's "ferocious"?

Ok, enjoy your lynch.

But just as a thought, if I WERE the assassin, wouldn't I try all possible variants and pick a target before I die?

I mean, there's one in eight chance that I'll get it right anyway.

lolwut. I don't get what your point is. Obviously IF you are the assassin and about to be lynch you'll use your kill tonight?
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 07 2010 02:35 GMT
#88
On November 06 2010 09:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm starting to think that cube is the assasin, I hid some things in my code that a real body guard would recognize but I think he missed them...

On November 06 2010 10:09 CubEdIn wrote:
Right. Do you think I even tried your code? Why would I?

And also, I think you're overlooking the fact that the other people didn't really bother to try/answer either. And the in-actives.

I suggest we lynch you for almost revealing the king and accusing me after claiming I'm the king, so you could get your free-confirmation.

##Vote Meapak_Ziphh

Booya.


Haha, good job guys. He accuses me, I say no tnx, I think you're the one who's being suspicious, and that's "ferocious"?

Yes...quite.
##Vote CubEdIn
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 08 2010 03:43 GMT
#118
Mm, I'm not sure how to defend myself other than to state that CubEdIn seemed to give us plenty of reason to think that he's scum, with how quickly he jumped on Meapak when it seemed fairly obvious at that time that Meapak was a BG.

With the posts we have thus far, the quote that I quoted above by bumatlarge stands out to me:
For instance, assasin knows this meapak will not be the king. There is no PM coordination and 3 people have already voted him. Of course we will kill him now, but we do need to watch who is voting what. The BGs have to be a little bit more discreet. I respect meapak's willingness to die, but he has to know that every time a BG dies, the assasin increases his chances.
where he says "of course we will kill him now", despite being pretty sure that Meapak's not an assassin. If anything he should be trying to talk people out of voting Meapak versus respecting his "willingness to die".

You guys sure do like to do whatever the fuck you want and disregard what everyone says about anything. Did you not read fishball's post? Are you daft? Fine do the opposite, you guys are going to give the killer one hell of a shot if you just assume things and start ignoring people when we are only 4 pages in.

I also find it interesting that bumatlarge advocates that we follow Fishball's strategy, which is for everyone to say nothing, and then kill whoever tries to fish. Obviously the assassin is not going to be so desperate as to out himself within the first night; if everyone is silent he could easily sit back while BG after BG is picked off, until it comes down to him having to choose between say, 3 people over having to choose between 8. I think that in the beginning of the game, the assassin may try to hop on a bandwagon to avoid accidentally mentioning for or voting for the king. But subsequently we may see him take more of a decisive stance once he has a more concrete idea of who's king, or through the power of elimination he thinks he knows who is NOT king. Once other players have been FoS'd or voted for, he could claim to also think them guilty just because other players have already done so previously. Then again, BG's could vote for the king so as to throw off the assassin. But there is a fine line between misleading the assassin and actually mistakenly convincing the rest of the town that oneself is the assassin.

Note that he also votes for CubEdIn without giving any reasoning whatsoever, and also votes for Darth immediately following orgolove, giving this reasoning:
Darth seems like a solid vote I like your reasoning with everything else. And there is not much detail we should be going into as we only give more information, but more people need to just give their thought, because I'm not having an assasin sit back this game with his arms crossed. And there are no inactives. HOHOHO
He seems to say pro-town posts without actually saying anything of substance. Of course I'm not sure, but for now my vote will go to him.
##vote bumatlarge

Also, this confuses me:
On November 08 2010 03:37 orgolove wrote:
Were there any variations between your PMs across the roles other than their specific role names and purpose? i.e. Coagulation mentioned that he only received one PM from you, but Meapak mentioned he received two PMs. If both are bodyguards, then it means you sent these two different role PMs despite being in the same role. Did you send different PMs?

What are you talking about? The fact that you seem to be fishing about role PM information seems slightly odd.

Finally, could we get a KST time and date of when each day is going to begin and end? I've been travelling lately, so my time zones and conception of time is a bit skewed.
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 08 2010 06:56 GMT
#125
On November 08 2010 14:36 bumatlarge wrote:
##vote Bereft
Hopefully I don't have to go into too much detail why this is smart.

Really? I insist that you do if you are going to vote for me. Because by the time I flip over not assassin, your explanation will be worthless to me by then :/.
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 08 2010 16:53 GMT
#145
On November 08 2010 18:30 bumatlarge wrote:
Multiple kings would explain bereft's mix-up.


But there is a fine line between misleading the assassin and actually mistakenly convincing the rest of the town that oneself is the assassin.

Trust me, there was no mix up.
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
November 09 2010 08:16 GMT
#167
le sigh. glhf guizee.
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