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[SPL] Hwaseung OZ vs. STX Soul

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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-26 03:50:56
October 24 2010 09:39 GMT
#1
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Jaedong is one sexy beast... Oh, and the awesome banner is by prototype. of course.

Monday, 25th October 2010, 19:30 KST, Channel OnGameNet



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[image loading]Hwaseung OZ vs STX SouL[image loading]


Personal predictions:
(with spoilers from previous matches)

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Last season, there were 2 teams classified as too one man-centric, JaedongOZ and KTFlash, respectively. What happened afterwards was that the other members of KT Rolster started performing to the chagrin of a lot of SKT fans, and they are now considered a dominant force, if not the favorite to win the Proleague.
Jaedong OZ, on the other hand, remained just that, Jaedong OZ. While HiYa went quite far in the individual leagues and the WCG Korea, he wasn't enough to get the team to the play-offs, puncuated by a humiliating loss to Air Force ACE, of all teams (Granted, the games that round were won by HiYa and Perfectman, and Killer of all people was sent for Ace, but this shouldn't be an excuse for that loss). Now they are facing STX Soul, one of the deepest teams in the Proleague, and HiYa has lost both his games last week. BackHo hasn't been sent out after his single loss to Snow, and Killer has demonstrated both a good capability of getting a huge lead and an even better tendency to blow it all anyway. Even Jaedong's wins haven't been drastic enough to showcase the true capabilities of the tyrant. He almost lost to stats*, and hydra isn't exactly known for... anything at all, to be honest. While any of the above are still a threat, in the future Oz will have to make use of their almost never seen bench and make them work for their money. Or bring Anytime/ForGG back. Either way, the light at the end of the tunnel is far away (especially if the rumors of Anytime playing SC2 are true).

As for STX, they have been on a tear. They brought down Samsung and ACE pretty easily, which admittedly is not the greatest feat in this new format, but still pretty ominous to the still reeling OZ. Any opponent of STX will have a hard time guessing who will be played (similarly to SKT), since there are extremely good players of every race on the team. Even the previous under performers like Trap and Bogus have produced games rivaling any non-S class player in the last week alone, and Classic and Hyvaa are no pushovers. This is not even the core lineup! Calm still feels a bit shaky, but Shuttle and Kal are scary as hell in this Protoss favouring environment. by.hero and Modesty are more than a match against any non-JD Zerg, though in other matchups, I'd not bet on them. (Modesty vs. BeSt doesn't count, BeSt played horribly in that game.)

The true value of STX will be shown in real challenges, such as SKT, KT and Woongjin, but that will have to wait. As of now, Hwaseung OZ awaits, and I don't see STX losing that one.

Set 1: (T)HiyA < Grand Line SE > (T)Bogus
Set 2: (Z)Jaedong < Fortress > (Z)by.hero
Set 3: (P)BackHo < Empire of the Sun > (Z)Calm
Set 4: (P)Sky < Central Plains > (P)Shuttle
Set 5: (T)Lomo < Circuit Breaker > (P)Kal
Set 6: (Z)Killer < Aztec > (Z)Modesty
Ace Match: < Icarus >

STX wins 4-2.
(Fanboyism might or might have not influenced these predictions. At least I tried.)
*Correction - didn't follow the match too properly. While JD did lose a lot of units unnecessarily, he had built up a significant advantage by that point and nullified any chance stats had of pressuring him with his air superiority. The tyrant still lives, but that doesn't change the big picture.






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Hwaseung OZ vs STX SouL


Set 1: (P)PerfectMan< Grand Line SE > (T)Last
Set 2: (P)BackHo < Fortress > (T)FrOzen
Set 3: (T)Lomo < Empire of the Sun > (T)Bogus
Set 4: (Z)Jaedong < Central Plains > (Z)by.hero
Set 5: (T)HiyA < Circuit Breaker > (P)Kal
Set 6: (Z)Killer < Aztec > (Z)Calm
Ace Match: (Z)Jaedong < Icarus > (Z)Modesty



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Hwaseung OZ vs STX SouL


Set 1: (P)PerfectMan < Grand Line SE > (T)Last
Set 2: (P)BackHo < Fortress > (T)FrOzen
Set 3: (T)Lomo < Empire of the Sun > (T)Bogus
Set 4: (Z)Jaedong < Central Plains > (Z)by.hero
Set 5: (T)HiyA < Circuit Breaker > (P)Kal
Set 6: (Z)Killer < Aztec > (Z)Calm
Ace Match: (Z)Jaedong < Icarus > (Z)Modesty

[image loading]Hwaseung OZ 4-3 STX SouL[image loading]






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+ Show Spoiler [Game 1] +
Good comeback, but the usual game quality of this season makes both look like amateurs. A nicely executed mid-game attack, I'll admit, but no recommendation unless you are really bummed out on there being no BW streams.
Poll: Would you recommend game 1?

Yes (7)
 
64%

No (2)
 
18%

Check it out if you have time. (2)
 
18%

11 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.


+ Show Spoiler [Game 2] +
Apparently the loser was disqualified for pausing the game manually. There is no game to speak of. Will update if there is more information. I WILL give you a poll to vent in, though.
Poll: Would you recommend game 2?

I don't want to talk about it. (21)
 
42%

KeSPA is stupid. (20)
 
40%

KeSPA is just. (9)
 
18%

50 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 2?

(Vote): KeSPA is stupid.
(Vote): KeSPA is just.
(Vote): I don't want to talk about it.


+ Show Spoiler [Game 3] +
I have no idea what the loser tried to accomplish with his opening, but it was punished badly and a prompt gg is the result. I'm too confused to recommend this, but my first thought is... "no."
Poll: Would you recommend game 3?

No (22)
 
96%

Yes (1)
 
4%

Check it out if you have time. (0)
 
0%

23 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.


+ Show Spoiler [Game 4] +
After a failure to ward off his choke from lings, things only went downhill for the loser. A nice mutabattle, and a nice breaking of a choke, but then again, this IS a ZvZ. Your choice.
Poll: Would you recommend game 4?

Yes (12)
 
44%

No (9)
 
33%

Check it out if you have time. (6)
 
22%

27 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 4?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.


+ Show Spoiler [Game 5] +
Great harass, not a bad comeback attempt, but futile in the end. One-sided after the opening.
Poll: Would you recommend game 5?

Yes (11)
 
46%

No (9)
 
38%

Check it out if you have time. (4)
 
17%

24 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.


+ Show Spoiler [Game 6] +
Quick and bloody ZvZ. Not much to see here.
Poll: Would you recommend game 6?

No (16)
 
64%

Yes (6)
 
24%

Check it out if you have time. (3)
 
12%

25 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 6?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.


+ Show Spoiler [Ace Match] +
Worse than the last one, except for an extra dose of fail on the losers behalf.
Poll: Would you recommend game 7?

Yes (46)
 
77%

No (14)
 
23%

Check it out if you have time. (0)
 
0%

60 total votes

Your vote: Would you recommend game 7?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Check it out if you have time.





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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-24 10:01:58
October 24 2010 10:01 GMT
#2
Poll: Who are you rooting for?

Hwaseung OZ (67)
 
77%

STX SouL (18)
 
21%

I'm conflicted. (2)
 
2%

87 total votes

Your vote: Who are you rooting for?

(Vote): Hwaseung OZ
(Vote): STX SouL
(Vote): I'm conflicted.


Poll: Who will win?

STX SouL (47)
 
63%

Hwaseung OZ (17)
 
23%

Blizzard cancels the match before it ends. Everybody loses. (10)
 
13%

I forgot to liquibet and therefore don't care. (1)
 
1%

75 total votes

Your vote: Who will win?

(Vote): Hwaseung OZ
(Vote): STX SouL
(Vote): I forgot to liquibet and therefore don't care.
(Vote): Blizzard cancels the match before it ends. Everybody loses.

WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
yoonyoon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1065 Posts
October 24 2010 11:56 GMT
#3
This is sad ㅠㅠ people root for Hwaseung, but everyone knows the real result...

Lol I have my last exam on Tuesday but screw that, I'm tuning in for Jaedong<3
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
October 24 2010 12:36 GMT
#4
On October 24 2010 20:56 yoonyoon wrote:
This is sad ㅠㅠ people root for Hwaseung, but everyone knows the real result...

Lol I have my last exam on Tuesday but screw that, I'm tuning in for Jaedong<3

I hope people show up. These might be the last matches, so there better be some audience.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9527 Posts
October 24 2010 13:06 GMT
#5
It's impossible not to root for Jaedong!
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 24 2010 13:48 GMT
#6
STX has too much depth, I can't see STX losing more than 2 games. Blizzard won't try to shut down the match though, cos it's at OGN.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
October 24 2010 13:56 GMT
#7
On October 24 2010 22:48 Ryo wrote:
STX has too much depth, I can't see STX losing more than 2 games. Blizzard won't try to shut down the match though, cos it's at OGN.

Doesn't an injunction on Proleague cover the entire event?
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 24 2010 14:07 GMT
#8
On October 24 2010 22:56 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 22:48 Ryo wrote:
STX has too much depth, I can't see STX losing more than 2 games. Blizzard won't try to shut down the match though, cos it's at OGN.

Doesn't an injunction on Proleague cover the entire event?


Okay, found the quote from Milkis. I can't verify whether the info is correct but he shld know better than me:

On October 14 2010 01:20 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 01:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 14 2010 01:06 Vedic wrote:
Well then if they are going to court it means that there is going to be a lot of time before the issue gets resolved and until then its business as usual....


Not really. They can file for an injunction to prevent KeSPA from going forward until there is a ruling.


hmmm.....

Is there a downside to gretech for filing an injunction?I know this is really no the place to ask this...


fyi injunctions aren't the end of the story

what kespa is probably gonna do is put in a bail and go on with it while the trial is ongoing. you can do that in korea apparently if it relates to IP rights.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-24 14:14:08
October 24 2010 14:13 GMT
#9
On October 24 2010 23:07 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 22:56 mustaju wrote:
On October 24 2010 22:48 Ryo wrote:
STX has too much depth, I can't see STX losing more than 2 games. Blizzard won't try to shut down the match though, cos it's at OGN.

Doesn't an injunction on Proleague cover the entire event?


Okay, found the quote from Milkis. I can't verify whether the info is correct but he shld know better than me:

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2010 01:20 Milkis wrote:
On October 14 2010 01:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 14 2010 01:06 Vedic wrote:
Well then if they are going to court it means that there is going to be a lot of time before the issue gets resolved and until then its business as usual....


Not really. They can file for an injunction to prevent KeSPA from going forward until there is a ruling.


hmmm.....

Is there a downside to gretech for filing an injunction?I know this is really no the place to ask this...


fyi injunctions aren't the end of the story

what kespa is probably gonna do is put in a bail and go on with it while the trial is ongoing. you can do that in korea apparently if it relates to IP rights.

*squeels like a bisu fangirl/boy*
This might make a believer out of me.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
October 24 2010 14:18 GMT
#10
clam will lose his match again and the entire STX would die once again! Kal will lose his match against Jaedong and Hwaseung OZ 4-0s STX.(entirely fanboy biased view)

That said STX has a high chance of winning this. Please buck up OZ
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
Sea.JustGod
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
400 Posts
October 24 2010 15:48 GMT
#11
My Predictions:

(Z)Jaedong < Grand Line SE > (T)Classic

(P)BackHo < Fortress > (T)FrOzen

(Z)Killer < Empire of the Sun > (Z)hero

(P)PerfectMan < Central Plains > (P)Trap

(T)HiyA < Aztec > (Z)Calm

OZ Win!!!!
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
October 24 2010 16:21 GMT
#12
That pic of Calm is very badass.
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
tbrown47
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1235 Posts
October 24 2010 16:47 GMT
#13
On October 25 2010 00:48 Sea.JustGod wrote:
My Predictions:

(Z)Jaedong < Grand Line SE > (T)Classic

(P)BackHo < Fortress > (T)FrOzen

(Z)Killer < Empire of the Sun > (Z)hero

(P)PerfectMan < Central Plains > (P)Trap

(T)HiyA < Aztec > (Z)Calm

OZ Win!!!!



O_o lol
just here
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66358 Posts
October 24 2010 17:01 GMT
#14
On October 25 2010 01:47 tbrown47 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2010 00:48 Sea.JustGod wrote:
My Predictions:

(Z)Jaedong < Grand Line SE > (T)Classic

(P)BackHo < Fortress > (T)FrOzen

(Z)Killer < Empire of the Sun > (Z)hero

(P)PerfectMan < Central Plains > (P)Trap

(T)HiyA < Aztec > (Z)Calm

OZ Win!!!!



O_o lol

hahahahaha my thoughts exactly lol
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 24 2010 17:07 GMT
#15
On October 25 2010 01:21 alypse wrote:
That pic of Calm is very badass.


Calm, post Lasik (and if rumors are to be believed, with gf):
[image loading]
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mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-24 17:49:45
October 24 2010 17:26 GMT
#16
On October 25 2010 01:21 alypse wrote:
That pic of Calm is very badass.

Sure as hell is. I'm such a fanboy, lol.
And Ryo's picture doesn't help much either.
EDIT: Am I imagining things or are there really many STX haters there. ?
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
October 24 2010 18:36 GMT
#17
Oz will win this. Trust me
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
October 24 2010 18:55 GMT
#18
If at least Hiya and someone else can win (+Jaedong will win his game obviously), JD can clean it up in ace!
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alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
October 24 2010 23:25 GMT
#19
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 25 2010 02:07 Ryo wrote:
On October 25 2010 01:21 alypse wrote:
That pic of Calm is very badass.


Calm, post Lasik (and if rumors are to be believed, with gf):
[image loading]



0_o looks so diffferent w/o glasses. In fact all Koreans look like another person when they have glasses on/off. Have you guys seen (T)Fantasy without glasses?
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
yoonyoon
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1065 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-25 00:20:13
October 24 2010 23:40 GMT
#20
^ Lol, you know, everyone looks different with / w/o glasses, not just Koreans.

[image loading]





and another pic of calm w/o glasses

[image loading]




But to keep this post from being completely irrelevant to the topic, 11 more hours until the match<3
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