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Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 01:44 GMT
#626
sup, im in this now :O 31 pages to read brb.

this whole mayor thing seems like it could be amazing and horrible
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 02:23 GMT
#654
On October 30 2010 09:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


My role has two basic abilities:
-to confirm itself to another player at night. basically I can send a signal to another player once per night that confirms I am the role I say I am.
-to assist in stopping the spread of the plague. i will use this role to reliably coordinate the night actions of plague doctors and the results will show in the murrayitis counts.

Both of these actions can be proven, they have results that cannot be faked.

Secondly, (more like the hundred time I've said this and people don't listen)


So whats the name of your role, i'm curious
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 02:27 GMT
#658
On October 30 2010 11:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 11:23 Glasse wrote:
On October 30 2010 09:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


My role has two basic abilities:
-to confirm itself to another player at night. basically I can send a signal to another player once per night that confirms I am the role I say I am.
-to assist in stopping the spread of the plague. i will use this role to reliably coordinate the night actions of plague doctors and the results will show in the murrayitis counts.

Both of these actions can be proven, they have results that cannot be faked.

Secondly, (more like the hundred time I've said this and people don't listen)


So whats the name of your role, i'm curious

Does it matter?

It seems strange that you would want to know. I guess it would do no harm to tell, it wouldn't reveal the exact nature of my powers, which I won't go into extreme detail on just yet.

I'm not sure I should say. Maybe there is a role that knows all the roles in the game? And you're trying to confirm I am who I say I am?

Maybe this is some kinda weird mafia fishing attempt?

I'll think about it.



Sounds more like you just made shit up and can't think of a name that fits the description you gave.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 02:27 GMT
#659
forgot to add something : you said what you could do anyway, why would the name matter?
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 02:44 GMT
#676
On October 30 2010 11:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I am mafia


There, he said it!

(for serious now)

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On October 30 2010 11:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I can understand why people maybe don't want me to be mayor over fishball but trying to paint me as scum is ludicrous.

Let's say I am mafia.

I am faking a role in which I confirm my role to another player each night. To fake this I must get another mafia to pretend that I did this each day, who would probably be DT checked immediately throwing me under suspicion.

I don't want to say exactly how my second ability works but I can reliably show my powers in helping to stop the spread of the plague. Faking this would be much quicker. It would be incredibly easy to catch me in this lie and since the results of my actions are reflected in the murrayitis numbers and the success of plague doctors, it isn't really something I can pull off.

I am offering myself for lynch if the information I'm giving is found to be unreliable. So as mafia here, I'm sacrificing myself. my scumbuddies, and making claims that I cannot fulfill.

An utterly retarded thing to do. Not to mention the fact that being mayor barely benefits mafia in this case. The only real benefit is immunity to vig hits and the second vote.

In a normal mafia game, the mayor has 3 extra votes, complete immunity from night actions. A DT can check the mayor for godssake.

So for me to pull this off all of the following are true:
I am mafia
I am godfather
I can get the mafia to pretend I am confirming to them without ever being caught
I can fake a role that involves stopping the spread of murrayitis which isn't a possibility.

Consider all of that for the benefit a mafia player would be going for:
extra vote
immunity to vigs

and also weight the con a mafia has from being mayor:
guaranteed DT visit
immense pressure/scrutiny from town

it really is nonsensical, added to the fact that I can prove my role is what I say it is after the night, there is really nothing here to paint me as scum. If it's made up bullshit, and thats what you believe, then I'm handing you my life and the lives of my scumbuddies on a plate.



All those things are very valid points. It looks like you have the whole thing planned if you win.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 03:00 GMT
#688
Well I think I should be mayor. I know i just joined the game and stuff but i can confirm my role and i could organize stuff much better than everyone else!. [Insert more standard nonsense here]

I'll be voting for myself until someone proves me they deserve my vote. What i've seen is not enough atm and I don't want to be modkilled for not voting lol
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 03:16 GMT
#696
On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote:
so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3


I will protect you as i can't be killed during the game!. I will always be there for you! Vote for me!
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 03:20 GMT
#699
On October 30 2010 12:18 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 12:16 Glasse wrote:
On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote:
so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3


I will protect you as i can't be killed during the game!. I will always be there for you! Vote for me!


wait, WHAT?


You heard it, even god would not be able to kill me!
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 03:31 GMT
#707
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On October 30 2010 12:26 Fishball wrote:
Wrong quote ;/
Meant to quote NB.


Good, i was like wat?

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On October 30 2010 12:25 NB wrote:
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On October 30 2010 12:16 Glasse wrote:
On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote:
so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3


I will protect you as i can't be killed during the game!. I will always be there for you! Vote for me!

are you implying the fact that you are a mafia so you can only be killed by lynching and if you become mayor you cant be lynched?

@DrH: where is the love bro <3 .... no im joking, what can i do to make you trust me? :-j (this feels exactly like last game.....)


Uh not really, didn't really think about that. Just trying to be a good politician and say as much bullshit as i can to get more votes :3

I must say though, i am the voice god, that is why he wouldnt be able to kill me. You can't kill a voice, only mute!



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On October 30 2010 12:24 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 12:20 Glasse wrote:
On October 30 2010 12:18 infinitestory wrote:
On October 30 2010 12:16 Glasse wrote:
On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote:
so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3


I will protect you as i can't be killed during the game!. I will always be there for you! Vote for me!


wait, WHAT?


You heard it, even god would not be able to kill me!


this sounds legit.


You heard the man! I promise that i will take every single gun shot from my town ppls! I can't die anyway!

Glasse 2010!
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 03:54 GMT
#714
On October 30 2010 12:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if glasse is invincible he shouldn't be mayor, it's a waste of the bodyguard mechanic


What if i take all the hits for my bodyguards? That makes many ppl invincible as well!

On October 30 2010 12:31 annul wrote:
god may not be able to kill you but the mods can!


We'll see about that!

Vote Glasse! Insane mayor 2010!
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 03:58 GMT
#717
On October 30 2010 12:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 12:54 Glasse wrote:
On October 30 2010 12:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
if glasse is invincible he shouldn't be mayor, it's a waste of the bodyguard mechanic


What if i take all the hits for my bodyguards? That makes many ppl invincible as well!

On October 30 2010 12:31 annul wrote:
god may not be able to kill you but the mods can!


We'll see about that!

Vote Glasse! Insane mayor 2010!

My understanding of the bodyguard is that if the mayor is hit, the bodyguard doesn't die, but that the bodyguard must be killed before the mayor can


What if i am invincible due to bodyguards?
DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?
I could also be an invincible body guard, who protect his own bodyguards.

Think about it, its so insane it could be true!

Glasse for mayor!
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 04:06 GMT
#720
or can he?
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 04:07 GMT
#721
God you guys are no fun

I'll just stop saying random nonsense
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 04:09 GMT
#723
Still though, glasse is the best choice, considering there are no good voting choices
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 04:12 GMT
#725
Just stating, in a weird way, that you have no credibility to me.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 04:18 GMT
#730
On October 30 2010 13:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2010 13:12 Glasse wrote:
Just stating, in a weird way, that you have no credibility to me.

ok would you like to back that statement up or are you just going to keep saying meaningless nonsense


All you said did not prove anything. There is nothing to believe. You could of easily made everything up. Also your role does not make any sense, those 2 different actions you can do are not linked together at all, and the name sticky doesn't sound right for it either.

I guess i can't really back it up but all the nonsense i said earlier meant as much as everything you said about why you should be mayor.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 04:37 GMT
#744
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 30 2010 13:26 orgolove wrote:
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On October 30 2010 13:12 kingjames01 wrote:
Okay, I think that my previous question got lost in the thread. Can anyone answer this for me?

On October 29 2010 18:36 kingjames01 wrote:
Is a person who has been visited by the Plague Doctor gain immunity for the remainder of the game?


I decided to play this game from the beginning as though everyone was mafia but me.

DrH supposed role is "Sticky"

On October 30 2010 11:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:27 Glasse wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 11:23 Glasse wrote:
On October 30 2010 09:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote:


My role has two basic abilities:
-to confirm itself to another player at night. basically I can send a signal to another player once per night that confirms I am the role I say I am.
-to assist in stopping the spread of the plague. i will use this role to reliably coordinate the night actions of plague doctors and the results will show in the murrayitis counts.

Both of these actions can be proven, they have results that cannot be faked.

Secondly, (more like the hundred time I've said this and people don't listen)


So whats the name of your role, i'm curious

Does it matter?

It seems strange that you would want to know. I guess it would do no harm to tell, it wouldn't reveal the exact nature of my powers, which I won't go into extreme detail on just yet.

I'm not sure I should say. Maybe there is a role that knows all the roles in the game? And you're trying to confirm I am who I say I am?

Maybe this is some kinda weird mafia fishing attempt?

I'll think about it.



Sounds more like you just made shit up and can't think of a name that fits the description you gave.


Oh, I see.

The name of the role is Sticky. You can see earlier that I used the word sticky to try to see if Node had the same role as me.

As far as making it up, that would be the worst mafia play in the history of mafia. Again like I said (this is the millionth time now)

In order to fake this role I have to out a scumbuddy every single day, who has to lie, putting pressure on an increasing amount of mafia. I would also have to fake the second part of my role, which would be impossible to do since the results are objective and not able to be manipulated.


DrH, you've been mafia MANY times before as you've said. You, better than anyone, should know that is not the ONLY way to fake this role.

Everyone, consider this scenario. The mafia share the names and abilities of their individual roles with the group. DrH claims the name and abilities of one of his mafia teammates, ie. "Sticky". He gets elected mayor during the day and then at night, he gets elected Godfather. As Godfather, he chooses to appear as "Sticky" to any detective checks. At night, the real "Sticky" does whatever "Stickies" are supposed to do. When day breaks, DrH claims responsibility so we start to believe him more. We go along with his scheming and then we lose.

He's given us this description of his role but it doesn't assuage my hesitations.

On October 30 2010 12:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
My platform or why I'm running for mayor


Simply,I have a role which can do two things: confirm itself to another player at night and help to stop the spread of murrayitis. The first ability will confirm I am who I say I am to the town, if used correctly, and the second will limit the mafia from using the plague to achieve their win condition. I will not allow poor bandwagons and mafia manipulation to influence my decisions and I offer coordination powers that are uncorruptable.


How exactly does your role work? How WILL we know that you're legitimately town? What if you pretend to use your "ability" and another Red says, "Hey, DrH came to me in my dreams and now I KNOW he's Blue."

What I want from DrH is to convince me that this is not the case. If he cannot provide that, he will not get my vote.


Kingjames raises a lot of valid points. DrH, you're avoiding his answers and just focusing on Glasse, who's obviously an idiot.

What is your response to KingJames' comments?



I didn't insult you, why would you insult me? Acting and being are 2 different things...
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 04:50 GMT
#752
On October 30 2010 13:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote:



So for me to pull this off all of the following are true:
I am mafia
I am godfather
I can get the mafia to pretend I am confirming to them without ever being caught
I can fake a role that involves stopping the spread of murrayitis which isn't a possibility.



What tell us there is not a role that involves stopping the spread as red?
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 06:09 GMT
#813
On October 30 2010 15:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

the only other alternative I see is that the disease is dropped on somebody through an RNG by artanis


i doubt that is the case because that could put the town in a lot of trouble without mafia doing anything about it.
Glasse
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1237 Posts
October 30 2010 16:57 GMT
#853
On October 31 2010 01:52 ghrur wrote:
Why do I feel ignored? T_T


it's ok, nobody is paying attention to my ability to roleclaim and prove that i'm town if im mayor either
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