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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
January 09 2003 13:17 GMT
#1
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why so 진지해?
Arctic
Profile Joined December 2002
United States34 Posts
January 09 2003 13:35 GMT
#2
You know what Rekrul?

You did good.

So they cheated. Fine, fuck em. This is a tournement to put together a talented team. If they were BOTH in the tournement, and one guy played for both, that means the one guy was sub par, at least compared to who he was facing. Now, if only Pieux had been in the tourney and Artosis played for him, I could see a slightly different view: This IS a tournement to see who's the best and brightest, so as long as he confesses, OK, you can keep playing, but we will have our eyes on you. The US hires hackers who have hacked into major places before; this could almost be like that.

But that wasn't the case.

Good line of questioning, too. Makes most US Prosecutors look like Madcow. Please don't think all United States people are as stupid as some of the people around the forum, everybody. Their's smart people, but they are pretty hard to find in the midst of "LOLROFLFAGGOTFAGGOTBMYOUSUCK" and "Insert ANYTHING Madcow says"

By the way, I support this idea 100%. NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION! Er, wait...No Insultation without Representation. That sounds better.
)Is(Honest
Profile Joined September 2002
Korea (South)417 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-01-09 13:40:56
January 09 2003 13:39 GMT
#3
Artosis: "Where is Artosis?"
HovZ: "LOL" after game started

that was the schItZ yo lolz
Yellow[SB]
Profile Joined January 2003
United States174 Posts
January 09 2003 13:43 GMT
#4
Rekrul I just thought i would say i support what u did.




Cya ^^
Arctic
Profile Joined December 2002
United States34 Posts
January 09 2003 14:08 GMT
#5
Kiddie: Yes, and it would make some of us have to strain and employ 4 full time codebreakers and 2 translators. Heck, most of the time Babelfish makes more sense then some people, after translating from Russian to Spanish to Italian to Korean to English.

At any rate, up here in Michigan it's colder then Nazgul's heart.
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
January 09 2003 14:25 GMT
#6
i think i can speak for the majority of the logical sc/bw community and i say that we all support you and we think you are doing a great job, btw i remember artosis and his 3port wraith at dallas, very odd strat/bo. --
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
Arctic
Profile Joined December 2002
United States34 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-01-09 14:40:55
January 09 2003 14:29 GMT
#7
Mods, Meat, whoever, somebody please delete all my messages except the first one and Flamestarters messages. They serve no more purpose since he was banned for being a well known ass, and I think this topic would be better off without my drivel and his drivel.
AgonyRush
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2540 Posts
January 09 2003 16:43 GMT
#8
Rekrul how to watch the hotkeys?
btw im totally agree with banning him... but did bluwolf played with peuix (or whatever his nick is) or with artosis? anyway i think he shouldnt be in loosers brackets.
A team is only as good as its worst lineup
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
January 09 2003 17:24 GMT
#9
On January 10 2003 01:43 AgonyRush wrote:
Rekrul how to watch the hotkeys?
btw im totally agree with banning him... but did bluwolf played with peuix (or whatever his nick is) or with artosis? anyway i think he shouldnt be in loosers brackets.


In replays you can tell the hotkeys by pressing the numbers 0-9, but this only works if you start the replay in the corresponding spot with the player you are watching. For example, if you watch a replay and you are in the first slot when the replay starts you can see the hotkeys for the player that starts in the 3 o'clock position on LT. I am not sure what the other slots are for the other starting places, but that is how it works.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
Pantsless
Profile Joined January 2003
United States16 Posts
January 09 2003 17:35 GMT
#10
No sense in arguing anymore. Pieux told me over AIM that he didn't sign up for the tourney ... his friend did w/o telling him. He could have given a rat's ass about the tourney.

Until this point, Pieux's completely innocent IMO. But he shows a lack of integrity by not telling XG3 or Rekrul to find someone else ... instead he just goes 'fuck it' and lets Artosis play for him. Bad judgement, but he could care less lol he's a sponsored WC3 player.

They were banned (even though Pieux had no real involvement to begin with) so let it be. Just close all the threads and let it die

P.S. Rekrul did nothing wrong and I think the tournament was run fine.

- Pantsless (Ganjakat)
hrm
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
January 09 2003 17:52 GMT
#11
Ganj,

If what you say is true, then Pieux and Artosis are getting everything they deserve - bans, flames and all. It's what happens when you lose integrity.

What's up with the smurf? I liked Ganjakat: made you sound like an East Indian feline Anyway, glad as always to see you. Hope you come by more often...
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Pantsless
Profile Joined January 2003
United States16 Posts
January 09 2003 19:08 GMT
#12
Hah, I forgot the password to Ganjakat and 'forgot your password' emails annoy me ... lol I'm just too damn lazy
hrm
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
January 09 2003 20:58 GMT
#13
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
AgonyRush
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2540 Posts
January 10 2003 19:23 GMT
#14
On January 10 2003 02:24 A3iL3r0n wrote:

In replays you can tell the hotkeys by pressing the numbers 0-9, but this only works if you start the replay in the corresponding spot with the player you are watching. For example, if you watch a replay and you are in the first slot when the replay starts you can see the hotkeys for the player that starts in the 3 o'clock position on LT. I am not sure what the other slots are for the other starting places, but that is how it works.

thanks
A team is only as good as its worst lineup
Imperium
Profile Joined December 2002
United States614 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-01-10 19:27:45
January 10 2003 19:26 GMT
#15
hey I heard it depends on which player was in the slot that you're in in the pre-game chat room thing.

like if it was melee and boxer made the game and you host a replay so you're in the same slot as him

but I could be wrong

cuz there would be no 12!!!

(I mean... I could be wrong... but the way you said it works, there would be no 12)
such an oob!! go back to diablo
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
January 10 2003 19:37 GMT
#16
What does no 12 mean? I am going to assume it means you couldn't see a players hotkeys if they started at the 12 position on LT. You can see those hotkeys but I am not sure what slot you should start the replay in, because you can't move in the pre-replay chat area. But I do know for a fact that if you are the in top slot when you start the rep, on a LT map, you can see the hotkeys for the player at the 9 position. Basically to see the 12 positions hotkeys you'd have to experiment by having someone else make a replay and close some slots before you joined so you could test out what slots show what position's hotkeys. Ick.

Oops, in the previous post, I said 3 o'clock position. I meant 9.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
Imperium
Profile Joined December 2002
United States614 Posts
January 10 2003 19:38 GMT
#17
but what if there is no 9 or 3 or 12 or 6 and crap like that.

like if the positions are in the middle or something
such an oob!! go back to diablo
Arctic
Profile Joined December 2002
United States34 Posts
January 10 2003 20:25 GMT
#18
Just a guess, but I rememeber when I tried messing around with maps, you specify the start points. So most likely, that's how they pick the whole replay hotkey thing.

Just my 2 cents. It's 11:30 PM now, I think I shall go to sleep
Meat
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands3751 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-01-10 20:36:26
January 10 2003 20:35 GMT
#19
btw, i've deleted alot of the posts in this thread, to make it a bit more readable. Were only bullshit posts that messed up this thread (most of them posted by a banned user).
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Arctic
Profile Joined December 2002
United States34 Posts
January 10 2003 20:41 GMT
#20
Thanks Meat. By the way, did you just do a full IP range block to get rid of firestarter? And yeah, I got majorly carried away. Sorry.
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