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[OSL] Round of 16 - Day 5

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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-12 03:23:22
August 10 2010 22:18 GMT
#1
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NOTE: Two players from each of the four groups play their final group games today, with the other two players playing their last games on Friday the 13th. The groups are a round-robin format.

***

Tonight's Billing:
(P)Bisu < Flight-Dreamliner > (Z)EffOrt
(Z)ZerO < Eye of the Storm > (Z)Hyuk
(Z)Jaedong < Grand Line SE > (P)Pure
(P)free < Polaris Rhapsody > (P)Stork

Previews/Predictions:
+ Show Spoiler +
Group A:
Playing: (P)The Revolutionist—(Z)The Messiah

The day's most exciting match-up, two starleague winners play in their best match-ups with a lot riding on the line. Bisu and EffOrt have played several times before, with the protoss holding a 3-0 advantage in televised games. However, their last meeting was at the IEF exhibition, in a game that EffOrt won. This history is somwhat meaningless, however because they haven't played in nearly a year. Bisu is roaring back after a horrendous mid-season slump, while EffOrt is coasting after a stunning OSL title run. Both players barely missed each other on several occasions in the proleague playoffs, and are surely ready to finally play each other.

Mentally, EffOrt has the peculiar edge of this game being a must-win. If he does not win this game, his OSL title defense will come to an end. Bisu, meanwhile will assure himself at least a tiebreaker with a win, and will be in excellent position to advance outright. The map is Flight-Dreamliner, which has a 4-2 advantage for zerg, but has been a difficult map to pin down so far. What is clear is that its short air distance will favor harass-based play, which should favor Bisu. While both players are sublime multi-taskers, both are noticably better on the attack than the defensive. If EffOrt can deflect the expected corsair/[imba protoss unit] play from Bisu, then he should take the game home, as the map's many paths and wide-open raised center favor the late-game ling play that he excels at.

In the end, I can't pick against (Z)EffOrt.

Group Standings:
(T)Leta: 2-0
(P)Bisu: 1-1
(Z)Action: 1-1
(Z)EffOrt: 0-2


Group B:
Playing: (Z)The King of Queens—(Z)SKT Zerg

Just several days ago, this match would've been the time to go catch your breath after the set before, maybe grab a drink, and do some stretches. No longer. ZerO, once the poster child for middling ZvZ has completely reinvented himself in two successive nights in the STX Master's, defeating both Jaedong and EffOrt back-to-back. Suddenly, ZerO is on a tear, and is full of the kind of confidence that leads you to say, "I'm not scared of anybody". Beating the two top ZvZ'ers in BW in one week is impressive, but at least one player won't be impressed by it. That's because Hyuk actually put together an eerily similar performance last year, around the time when it appeared he might amount to something after all. Since then however, his luster has faded, although his ZvZ remains quite strong. The true pretender, then, will be revealed in this game.

The map is Eye of the Storm, which remains one of the single most forgettable maps ever made, (Can you remember a single game that was interesting because of this map? I sure can't.) and really doesn't have much in the way of positional imbalances that could doom either player. Plus, it's a ZvZ so there's no match-up advantage. The crucial thing here, then, will be the mental aspect, and in that regard, ZerO seemingly holds a huge edge. He's been taking names in the match-up recently, and has a lot to play for in this OSL. Hyuk, meanwhile, is at the basement of his group, and while this game is a must-win for him, his uninspired performances in his two previous games suggest that he'll have trouble finding the will to fight this one out. (Z)ZerO will win with an advantage, even builds, or possibly with a disadvantage.

Group Standings:
(T)Flash: 2-0
(Z)ZerO: 1-1
(T)HiyA: 1-1
(Z)Hyuk: 0-2


Group C:
Playing: (Z)The Destroyer of Worlds—(P)The Observer

This is yet another battle of a 1-1 player against the last player in the group, and that means it's a must-win for Pure, and a highly recommended win for Jaedong. But unlike the previous two games, the calibre of both players in this game is not particularly even. Pure is a good but not great protoss, who has struggled mightily in this match-up recently. This lack of confidence led to a horrifically ill-advised one-base build on the protoss-favored Polaris Rhapsody led to a loss against Hydra on the first day of the group stage. Meanwhile, Jaedong finds himself in a small hole, after a loss to Sea late-game terran mech put him in the second-place position in the group. Nonetheless, he is supremely confident in ZvP, having not lost to protoss players not named Stork, Bisu, or Kal since JUNE of LAST YEAR. Perhaps then it's good news for Pure that he's never played a televised game against Jaedong.

The map is Grand Line SE, which looks a little out of place without a terran on it. Results on the map have been mixed in this match-up, and neither player has played it in this MU. Nonetheless, the map lends itself well to zerg simcities, and mutalisk harass, while the cut-up middle makes it hard for protoss to control the land. (See vulture harass on this map for an example.) And honestly, it's Pure against Jaedong. It'd be a huge surprise to see anything other than a strong (Z)Jaedong victory here.

Group Standings:
(T)Sea: 2-0
(Z)Jaedong: 1-1
(Z)Hydra: 1-1
(P)Pure: 0-2


Group D:
Playing: (P)Pretty Boy—(P)Bird-Toss

Group D had so much promise, but disappointing performances from Kal and fantasy sealed their doom before the final two games of the series have been played. The final game of the fifth day is a bit of dessert, an exhibition between two strong PvP players. Winning this group is a questionable honor, as Jaedong or ZerO might await that player. At any rate, both players will likely be playing to win and playing to entertain, which will hopefully cap off the night in an exciting way.

Thankfully for this end, the map is on Polaris Rhapsody, which has proved to be an exciting map for protoss in all match-ups, even the mirror. The multiple passages and openness of the bases to harass has made PvP's on PR some of the most memorable games of the season. Surprisingly, Free has played a single PvP on PR, and Stork has never done it, which makes this the second match between (near)map virgins. In the end though, Stork simply has the better play in the MU, with no real advantages to mark towards free. It could go either way, but it'll probably go to (P)Stork.

Group Standings:
(P)Stork: 2-0
(P)free: 2-0

(T)Fantasy: 0-2
(P)Kal: 0-2


***

That's it for today, check back for the last day of the group stage, on Friday. Hoping for some amazing games!





[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler [Bisu—EffOrt] +
(P)Bisu < Flight-Dreamliner > (Z)EffOrt

+ Show Spoiler [ZerO—Hyuk] +
(Z)ZerO < Eye of the Storm > (Z)Hyuk

+ Show Spoiler [Jaedong—Pure] +
(Z)Jaedong < Grand Line SE > (P)Pure

+ Show Spoiler [free—Stork] +
(P)free < Polaris Rhapsody > (P)Stork


[image loading]+ Show Spoiler +
— - Not recommended
★ - Recommended
★ ★ - Highly Recommended
★ ★ ★ - Watch Now



+ Show Spoiler [Bisu—EffOrt] +
Smart play, do what you need to win.
—
+ Show Spoiler [ZerO—Hyuk] +
Nothing special.
—
+ Show Spoiler [Jaedong—Pure] +
Complete and utter demolition into a really hilarious forlorn gg timing.
—
+ Show Spoiler [free—Stork] +
Once it got going, a fun game!
★

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+ Show Spoiler [Contains Spoilers!] +
On August 11 2010 19:03 Ciryandor wrote:
LMAO HYUK. Please give us a FUNNY game, not a good one.
On August 11 2010 19:13 GTR wrote:
welcome back hyuk!
On August 11 2010 19:15 Perguvious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 19:14 TheYango wrote:
Fail ling bust into loss seems to be a trend these days for Hyuk vZ.
anything into loss seems to be the trend
On August 11 2010 19:15 Jackal03 wrote:
thats the good old hyuk i know


*

On August 11 2010 19:32 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 19:30 Mortician wrote:
Pure is so sexy...why are WeMade player so sexy, I mean look at Pure, NaDa, Baby, Mind...

you forgot Rock

On August 11 2010 19:49 okum wrote:
They have to stop letting amateurs play in these WCG qualifier games. It's a waste of time.


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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
August 10 2010 22:28 GMT
#2
So poetic.
Bisu-Zero-Jaedong-Stork!
[TLMS] REBOOT
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
August 10 2010 22:32 GMT
#3
This is efforts last chance..OH GOD EFFORT PLZ WIN

Zero, Jaedong, and Stork will take the other sets for sure.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Tempest[OEC]
Profile Joined February 2010
United States417 Posts
August 10 2010 22:34 GMT
#4
C'mon Bisu! Show that monster PvZ we all know and love! :D
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
August 10 2010 22:38 GMT
#5
Staying up till 4:30 AM will not be easy ugggg >.<
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 10 2010 22:40 GMT
#6
Bisu vs Effort. Ugh, I don't know who to cheer for.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
Issor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States870 Posts
August 10 2010 22:46 GMT
#7
Bisu, Zero, Jaedong, Stork googogogo!

Think I'll actually sleep and just wakeup at 5:30 instead of staying up this time :3
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-11 07:57:44
August 10 2010 22:58 GMT
#8
>
>
>
<
plzzzzzz
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
August 10 2010 22:59 GMT
#9
Who cares/Zero/Jaedong/Free!
Adr4melecH
Profile Joined March 2010
Thailand667 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 23:02:51
August 10 2010 23:02 GMT
#10
18.30 KST is 4.30 pm for me

Go Bisu,Dong and Stork!
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
August 10 2010 23:04 GMT
#11
sweet, all four matches have the potential to be really good.
Issor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States870 Posts
August 10 2010 23:04 GMT
#12
On August 11 2010 07:58 flamewheel wrote:
<
<
<
>
plzzzzzz



r u for rela?

never gonna happen, flamewheel... never gonna happen.

SRY~
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 23:12:45
August 10 2010 23:10 GMT
#13
Bisu > Effort (small air distance, Effort's losses to P are mostly heavy harass-type games, which is what Bisu will do with Dreamliner)
ZerO > Hyuk (ZerO's been really good lately, Hyuk just lost the last game of the finals, it's a confidence thing.)
Jaedong > Pure (THE DONG)
Free > Stork (game doesn't matter. also, JD and Bisu are likely to get 2nd, so it's easier to dodge them by getting 2nd. People will accuse whoever loses of throwing the game.)
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 23:19:54
August 10 2010 23:11 GMT
#14
"Starting to think Jaedong is homosexual."

lmao starting? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=102677

Poll: Bisu vs Effort

Revolutionist (46)
 
69%

Messiah (21)
 
31%

67 total votes

Your vote: Bisu vs Effort

(Vote): Revolutionist
(Vote): Messiah



Poll: ZerO vs Hyuk

Prince of Queens (42)
 
82%

SKT Zerg (9)
 
18%

51 total votes

Your vote: ZerO vs Hyuk

(Vote): Prince of Queens
(Vote): SKT Zerg



Poll: Jaedong vs Pure

Tyrant (50)
 
86%

Guy who looks like a protoss (8)
 
14%

58 total votes

Your vote: Jaedong vs Pure

(Vote): Tyrant
(Vote): Guy who looks like a protoss



Poll: Free or Stork?

The Dinotoss (34)
 
69%

The only dragon without a medal (15)
 
31%

49 total votes

Your vote: Free or Stork?

(Vote): The only dragon without a medal
(Vote): The Dinotoss



Poll: If you were free/Stork, would you

try to lose the game to avoid having to face Jaedong (and possibly Bisu)? (29)
 
54%

try to win the game to avoid having to face Flash? (25)
 
46%

54 total votes

Your vote: If you were free/Stork, would you

(Vote): try to lose the game to avoid having to face Jaedong (and possibly Bisu)?
(Vote): try to win the game to avoid having to face Flash?


jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 23:20:09
August 10 2010 23:19 GMT
#15
delete please, no need for 3 straight posts

shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
August 10 2010 23:25 GMT
#16
lmao skt zerg

that is pretty much the best way to describe hyuk
Pepsicolaone
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States967 Posts
August 10 2010 23:33 GMT
#17
On August 11 2010 07:38 Megalisk wrote:
Staying up till 4:30 AM will not be easy ugggg >.<

why dont you just sleep early and wake up at 4:30?
I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equal.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
August 11 2010 00:01 GMT
#18
REVOLUTIONIST FTW! Let's do this!
▲ ▲ ▲
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7817 Posts
August 11 2010 00:09 GMT
#19
Would rather see Bisu advance over Effort, but I think Effort will win.
Jubinell
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
333 Posts
August 11 2010 00:11 GMT
#20
Ahh..hHow nice it is to be in near-Korea time zone ^_^

On August 11 2010 07:38 Megalisk wrote:
Staying up till 4:30 AM will not be easy ugggg >.<

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