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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 02 2010 17:31 GMT
#17
kinda wanna play, but what's the time schedule for this? I don't know how active I'll be after next Wednesday.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 06 2010 00:18 GMT
#28
/interest

=P
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 07 2010 01:06 GMT
#47
On July 07 2010 09:51 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2010 07:13 Bill Murray wrote:
Mad Hatter - You have 2 bombs to place. You may only place one per night. You may choose to move your bombs from player a to player b. You may not have two bombs on the same person. If you are lynched, or killed during the night, your bombs explode. If someone kills one of your targeted players during the night, you lose that bomb. (if any of this is wrong, please correct me in thread)


Isn't it you only lose the bomb if the player was lynched and had a bomb on them? And then bombs are refunded if the target was killed at night.



Bombs are never refunded, I thought?

What he has right now seems correct.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 09 2010 23:25 GMT
#73
/in
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 17 2010 02:47 GMT
#213
Abstain from voting
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 17 2010 03:00 GMT
#216
On July 17 2010 07:44 citi.zen wrote:
How is it that these things always start on weekends?


Mine started on a Wednesday night, I believe.

21. DARTH THIEN AN


Guys, I think I'm the Godfather. That or BM really likes my name.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 17 2010 03:03 GMT
#217
unabstain
##Vote: d3_crescentia
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 17 2010 03:09 GMT
#220
On July 17 2010 12:04 d3_crescentia wrote:
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On July 17 2010 12:03 DarthThienAn wrote:
unabstain
##Vote: d3_crescentia

oh so is that how it goes

##Vote: DarthThienAn


Oh yeah? well

unvote
##Vote: d3_crescentia
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 17 2010 03:14 GMT
#222
On July 17 2010 12:10 d3_crescentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 12:07 Pandain wrote:
On July 17 2010 11:50 Divinek wrote:
On July 17 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote:
Vote: Pandain


4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game.


fuuuuck, then what do you do when you realize your life is meaningless in a crime ridden, police nonexistant world?

genocide is your only option


I can help you if you want to suicide though, using something called homicide.

o_o.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 17 2010 03:21 GMT
#224
On July 17 2010 12:18 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2010 12:07 Pandain wrote:
On July 17 2010 11:50 Divinek wrote:
On July 17 2010 11:32 Pandain wrote:
Vote: Pandain


4. You cannot vote for yourself or anyone dead or outside the game.


fuuuuck, then what do you do when you realize your life is meaningless in a crime ridden, police nonexistant world?

Fake roleclaim medic on day 1. That should take care of it.


Guys, I'm a medic.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 17 2010 03:33 GMT
#229
On July 17 2010 12:24 citi.zen wrote:
No problem.

## vote Darth


I'd vote for myself too if I could.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 17 2010 06:02 GMT
#260
[DarthThienAn inserts useful comment here]
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 17 2010 20:22 GMT
#291
On July 18 2010 05:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The game of Mafia has begun, and its time we get it going properly.

Some decent idea's have been laid out and we can consider them viable.

We have a few basics to remember in a setup like this. Trust no one. For all of the newer players. Stay out of PM land. If by god you go there, please only do so after the person your talking to has been confirmed. The chances for a minor slip up is enough to get you sniped if your blue, or give out information that you may have if you have it.

Secondly, we should set up potential lists of people to watch out for until they can be confirmed. I would start with

BloodyC0bbler
Foolishness
DTA
YoungMirii
Citizen

I believe us 5 should be under the most scrutiny at the beginning of this game.
Next we need medics to protect intelligently. Protect people you think will get hit. Analyze what people are saying then think if its something that would warrant mafia hitting them. IF so, put them on a list. Do this a few times and you have yourself a medic list to protect off of.

Next, day 1 lynch we have a few options
a) vote for the most inactive player
b) Vote for someone to RNG a player then vote on them
c) Vote for someone whos scummy (bad idea)

Now, with that all said and done, Lets get this party started.


I got this feeeeling. Somebody's watching me!
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 17 2010 20:25 GMT
#294
On July 18 2010 05:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 05:22 DarthThienAn wrote:
On July 18 2010 05:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The game of Mafia has begun, and its time we get it going properly.

Some decent idea's have been laid out and we can consider them viable.

We have a few basics to remember in a setup like this. Trust no one. For all of the newer players. Stay out of PM land. If by god you go there, please only do so after the person your talking to has been confirmed. The chances for a minor slip up is enough to get you sniped if your blue, or give out information that you may have if you have it.

Secondly, we should set up potential lists of people to watch out for until they can be confirmed. I would start with

BloodyC0bbler
Foolishness
DTA
YoungMirii
Citizen

I believe us 5 should be under the most scrutiny at the beginning of this game.
Next we need medics to protect intelligently. Protect people you think will get hit. Analyze what people are saying then think if its something that would warrant mafia hitting them. IF so, put them on a list. Do this a few times and you have yourself a medic list to protect off of.

Next, day 1 lynch we have a few options
a) vote for the most inactive player
b) Vote for someone to RNG a player then vote on them
c) Vote for someone whos scummy (bad idea)

Now, with that all said and done, Lets get this party started.


I got this feeeeling. Somebody's watching me!


Pretty safe bet, you are kinda sketchy looking with your darthvader like lightning


It's okay. I don't mind being looked at. I love attention
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 18 2010 01:44 GMT
#339
[DarthThienAn inserts thoughts on the no-lynch plan]

My goal is to maximize the number of deaths at the end of Day 1. Therefore, we should lynch someone who has voted.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 18 2010 20:05 GMT
#457
On July 18 2010 17:34 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
My thoughts: hyperbola is prolly just a quick trigger townie; I'd think a mafia would be too skittish to CONTINUE with it, especially when voting is so thin at this point. Mafia wouldn't have to be desperate as of now. Townie or red, hyperbola is obviously desperate now, with so many votes against him. But the desperation started and caused the bandwagon (according to Pandain). When the hyperbola bandwagon started, voting was evened out so there wouldn't be a need for mafia to bandwagon on someone. Mafia don't really tend to bandwagon anyone day one, at least they don't start the first bandwagon. They might start a second bandwagon to save someone's ass. Doesn't really help prove anyone innocent but I think hyperbola's behavior could be townie and the voting against him could be townie too. In better words, neither action really stick out at me as suspicious but no one's exonerated. Maybe if a team of people desperately work to save him there could be something going on.

I'd like to hear why foolishness is so quiet this game. I've seen him in games as green and games as blue (DT). Both times he was really active and talkative and was somewhat of a leader with plans and so on. I've never seen him quiet and I've never seen him red. Could be an irl thing, could be something else.

Darth...'s plan to "maximize" deaths on Day 1 strikes me as poor thinking. I get that it gets us information, so this could certainly be a townie sentiment. However, I've been red in many past games and I often got pissed off at how much harder it could be to win with just one more townie alive at the end, due to a non-lynch or something similar.

At this point, my vote really is between Darth and hyperbola because it seems too late to rally the town anywhere else. Hyperbola strikes me as green running mouth. The reactions to that at least give the town something, even if he's red. Darth's hanging back and saying something that could be a subtle red move or a legitimate townie move.

Yeah I double checked his other posts, and everything else is Darth clown spamming. As someone nicely put it: he's playing like Chezinu. So I can't be made to feel guilty about voting for him.

##unvote
##vote DarthTheinAn


In my experience, mafia rarely actually "bandwagon". One or two might hop in for the final vote to kill someone they don't like over the current top target, but usually, they just vote wherever they feel like, based on their posting and what they've said in the past.

The hyperbola bandwagon is just plain stupid imo. Anyone who was "convinced" by Siniquity's argument against hyperbola is also plain stupid. He gave poor reasoning for a random vote, but that does not make him mafia. A lot of the times, mafia play more like Siniquity, pointing out "mistakes" that townies make, and calling them scummy.

My post was to contrast YellowInk's silly no lynch suggestion. Why are we even considering that? We need information. The game is about getting information for the town ASAP so that we can lynch/KP accurately. Therefore, we lynch a someone who is not already going to be modkilled. Pandain, I was only half-joking about it. Lynch someone who has voted but is not helping the town out. Someone like me, but, preferably, not me.

And you're right, I was playing like Chezinu ^_^. He has inspired me.

I might be out for the rest of today. Before you lynch me, consider how many other people have not posted, but have voted. For instance, d3, who is currently voting for me, but has said as little as I have said.


Also, don't PM Opz, PM me!! ^^.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 18 2010 20:10 GMT
#458
On July 19 2010 04:53 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2010 04:30 youngminii wrote:
fail

Essentially. Voting lists are one of the best ways to catch mafia. They spread out across them in predictable patterns, and once you catch one mafia, you can gain a ton of information by looking at the voting lists. It's much better than post analysis, which is always touch and go. If you give people an out by establishing an abstain bandwagon, then you're just handcuffing the town.

And you may still be convinced that your strategy is the right one, but it's obviously not going to happen, and it's time you dropped the issue, so the town can move on. Wasting space, and distracting people from the task at hand is counter productive for obvious reasons.

Show nested quote +
On July 19 2010 03:37 youngminii wrote:
It looks like it's a toss up between hyperbola(5), DTA(3), and myself(4).

Show nested quote +
On July 19 2010 03:46 lakrismamma wrote:
I will follow citizen though to create a third alternative.

##Unvote
##vote ketomai

That's a fourth alternative. Also, for everyone's reference, this is a vote moved from Subversion.

So we have
Hyperbola (5)
Darth (3)
youngminii (4)
Ketomai (2)

I believe BrownBear, Subversion, and Ketomai have not yet voted.

***

At this point, I think people who have not voted for one of these four people (and in particular, the first three) should reconsider their votes, and select one of these players to lynch. Optimally we'll have three lists, and everyone on one of those lists, which should make mafia spotting a little easier. Again, I'd like to push a lynch on Darth. He's smart, and he knows he's not under the cosh yet. Hyperbola and youngminii have tried to defend themselves, but Darth hasn't lifted a finger, which I think it smart. If you're winning, leave well enough alone. But I'd like to punish him for it, and I encourage others to join.


If ketomai hasn't posted, why are we lynching him? He's going to get modkilled anyway.

I don't get on as much these days, since I've been on vacation. The last 8+ pages or so, I wasn't present for, need to catch up on the last two later still.

On July 19 2010 00:53 Amber[LighT] wrote:
##vote: abstain.

Haven't read the thread and won't ve able to
Until later


Switch him out for Amber[Light] imo.

unvote
##Vote: Amber[LighT]



If you disagree with my plan, let me explain my train of thought. People are going to get modkilled. We want to get rid of mafia. Modkills are going to kill those people anyway, therefore we should lynch someone who would not be modkilled. There are plenty of people who are being unhelpful. I am an example of it - look through to find more people like me. I don't have time to find people like that, but again, d3 is an example. Misder might be an example iirc. Chaoser would be an example. Therefore, we lynch one of those kinds of people, and help the town out by not being worried about it later (is this person mafia lurking or just inactive?) etc etc.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 18 2010 20:17 GMT
#459
ebwop: did I say YellowInk? I think I meant youngminii. lol.

Anyway, later all. Probably be back after the vote. Hope you guys don't kill me.

Death Post:
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 19 2010 07:54 GMT
#506
In that case.

On July 19 2010 06:00 d3_crescentia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2010 05:10 DarthThienAn wrote:
If you disagree with my plan, let me explain my train of thought. People are going to get modkilled. We want to get rid of mafia. Modkills are going to kill those people anyway, therefore we should lynch someone who would not be modkilled. There are plenty of people who are being unhelpful. I am an example of it - look through to find more people like me. I don't have time to find people like that, but again, d3 is an example. Misder might be an example iirc. Chaoser would be an example. Therefore, we lynch one of those kinds of people, and help the town out by not being worried about it later (is this person mafia lurking or just inactive?) etc etc.

Hey guess what - people can be as "helpful" as they want so long as they themselves aren't being targeted. Someone can run the whole active townie gig for an entire game and still be scum so long as they lead the rest of the town in the "right direction" by virtue of their calm-and-collected persona. Some scum will play more actively to maintain the appearance of a model citizen. You've done it; I've done it; everyone's done it (that is, if they've played as mafia more than once). "Laying low" is just a playstyle and not an indication of mafia.

But hey, if you wanna lynch me, let's get this ball rolling. The way I see it you stand to lose much more than I do.

The people we should be trying to pin down and confirm should be our most active, most valued posters. I know nothing about youngminii but that s/he did excellently in a previous game, and so we should keep an eye out. I find it interesting that BC's earlier list did NOT include infundibilum, and I'm wondering what THAT's about. I'm NOT suspicious of Foolishness because usually he would have checked in at this point with some abrasive comment or other.


I think it goes without saying that an inactive townie < active mafia. An active mafia will mess up at some point, or at some point, he'll have to show his cards and try to protect his friends. If he leaves too many mafia out to die in order to provide security for himself, he can only get so far alone. So if the mafia have someone who wants to play the part of the active mafia and put himself out there, great, we'll all be watching. If not, then that leaves the people who don't talk much/lurkers.

That said, my target was an inactive townie who wasn't on the block for being modkilled. My target was people who tried to skate by without saying anything at all, minus putting up a vote. I guess it doesn't matter now.


BrownBear, for instance, should be remembered since he "snuck" a vote in. Subversion did the same. I dunno who else is there.


On July 19 2010 07:12 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2010 05:17 DarthThienAn wrote:
ebwop: did I say YellowInk? I think I meant youngminii. lol.

Anyway, later all. Probably be back after the vote. Hope you guys don't kill me.

Death Post:
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Townie

There are no death posts or coroners in this set-up. Roles are revealed by the mod.


I know, it was a joke.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
July 19 2010 19:31 GMT
#528
Just letting everyone know that I am alive. But I will not be posting anything of content ^^. I think I've said enough already.
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