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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 21 2010 15:09 GMT
#7
Yay flamewheel is soo organized. ^^;; Can't wait for this to start. =D
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 21 2010 22:28 GMT
#14
Yay so excited. <3

So yeah, time to get stuff rolling. First day's lynch is pretty randoms, so I will vote for inactives. Gogogo!

In terms of strategy, I don't think there's much for us to do other than just talk a lot. xD DT should probably let town know once they find 2 townies or 1 mafia. Medic should not claim anytime soon.
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 21 2010 23:38 GMT
#18
Yeah, the whole point is that mafia can narrow it down to 2 setups, and blue roles can narrow it down to 2 setups.
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 22 2010 00:26 GMT
#22
I picked the classic f11 setup because I figured it would be hard to get twice as many people than we usually do..
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 22 2010 01:50 GMT
#25
Did you want to play Incog? Maybe ask flamewheel if he'll stick you into a random team. xP
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 22 2010 13:24 GMT
#56
Btw just pointing out that since flamewheel is running this game the chances of randomly picked roles and setup is 99.99999%.

I only fix publicly available information (teams) for greatest entertainment value. xP

My thoughts on first day lynch:
1. If there is an inactive group, lynch them.
2. If not, lynch the group that is hardest to read, though this is kinda hard to determine, so to speak. I'm sure it doesn't help that I fooled everyone in BM's game that I wasn't mafia. xP
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 22 2010 13:32 GMT
#57
It appears that Chezinu has voted for me and Radfield, without the requisite
"aka abstaining for now.. because no one else would dare vote for him, right?"

We note that he is mafia that game he voted for Radfield, however this time he just said a bunch of di-dah-di-dits instead of the previous statement.

For the sake of generating some content on day 1, care to clarify this Chezinu? xD
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 22 2010 15:34 GMT
#59
Hmmm... I am trying to decide if Chill would be offended by that statement...

He's really more like Light than L most of the time.
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 22 2010 17:21 GMT
#72
BM and Chez... you can PM each other. >.> So like, stop spamming up the thread... *goes to look up the morse code stuff*
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 22 2010 17:35 GMT
#78
YellowInk, I believe BM is referring to a game Caller ran, called the Three Kingdoms Mafia where there was Yellow Turban as a 4th party. I believe he must be mistaking you for someone else because your name is not on the player list.

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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 22 2010 18:24 GMT
#84
BM, how is talking in morse code helpful in the thread? Anyone can put it into a morse code translator.

If you wish to speak in code in hopes that somehow magically other townies but not mafia will be able to decipher it, be my guest. But I find the whole addition of morse code or binary or any other simple translatable using google form of cryptic communication useless and disruptive to people when they want to analyze the thread.
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 22 2010 18:48 GMT
#92
On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2010 03:24 Korynne wrote:
BM, how is talking in morse code helpful in the thread? Anyone can put it into a morse code translator.

If you wish to speak in code in hopes that somehow magically other townies but not mafia will be able to decipher it, be my guest. But I find the whole addition of morse code or binary or any other simple translatable using google form of cryptic communication useless and disruptive to people when they want to analyze the thread.


you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams?


Uh, how does this post make any sense?
a) If I was mafia, like YellowInk pointed out, I would have twice as many people on my team, making analysis much faster.
b) If you're trying to say that as mafia I am crying unfair because mafia is supposed to be the only ones able to communicate to other teams then first of all, you still can't use IRC to coordinate with other teams, and second of all, I don't see how talking in code allows you to coordinate with other teams. Even if you set up an elaborate system with someone ahead of time, how are you sure they are not mafia?

Like, it's good that you're putting pressure on YellowInk (I haven't decided if he's scummy yet, he doesn't quite have the green glow from the game he was pardoner but I don't know if that's because he's blue, red, or just being less aggressive because he doesn't have clues) but making stupid accusations is like...wut? (read: being Bill Murray?)
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 22 2010 18:53 GMT
#93
OMGUS
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 22 2010 19:29 GMT
#100
Gee Radfield, read the rules, it makes me look bad if you keep making mistakes like that. D=
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 22 2010 19:56 GMT
#102
So there seems to be a bandwagon starting on YellowInk. I don't like it very much... Mainly because I believe that YellowInk is relatively easy to read, so I don't think we'll have a lot of trouble dealing with him in the later days as we would some other people *cough*L*cough*Chezinu*cough*. So I would definitely favour lynching a group of inactives or someone hard to read over lynching YellowInk.

Those are my two cents on the matter.
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 22 2010 20:38 GMT
#121
Wow Chez, that is possibly the worst analysis I have ever seen... I'll post my comments in green so it's easier to see.
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 23 2010 05:24 Chezinu wrote:
I guess I should post what I know:

Radynee/Koryfield anaylsis:
Awww, I like the name change, it's cute. xP Shouldn't it be Radynne and Korfield or something though? xD
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 22 2010 07:09 Radfield wrote:
Get your game on mafia. Inactivity will not be tolerated. Giggidy Giggidy.

On June 22 2010 07:28 Korynne wrote:
Yay so excited. <3

So yeah, time to get stuff rolling. First day's lynch is pretty randoms, so I will vote for inactives. Gogogo!

In terms of strategy, I don't think there's much for us to do other than just talk a lot. xD DT should probably let town know once they find 2 townies or 1 mafia. Medic should not claim anytime soon.

Giggdy and excited about their roles...
Well I don't know why Radfield is excited, but I created this game so I'm personally very excited to see how it goes.

On June 22 2010 08:38 Korynne wrote:
Yeah, the whole point is that mafia can narrow it down to 2 setups, and blue roles can narrow it down to 2 setups.

On June 22 2010 09:26 Korynne wrote:
I picked the classic f11 setup because I figured it would be hard to get twice as many people than we usually do..

On June 22 2010 10:50 Korynne wrote:
Did you want to play Incog? Maybe ask flamewheel if he'll stick you into a random team. xP


or is Kory excited about the f11 setup? I prefer smaller games in general, it makes it easier for me to get a read on everyone. This is like, a big small game because there's 9 teams but like 20 people... so like, I'm excited, basically. xP

On June 22 2010 22:32 Korynne wrote:
It appears that Chezinu has voted for me and Radfield, without the requisite
"aka abstaining for now.. because no one else would dare vote for him, right?"

We note that he is mafia that game he voted for Radfield, however this time he just said a bunch of di-dah-di-dits instead of the previous statement.

For the sake of generating some content on day 1, care to clarify this Chezinu? xD


Kory underestimates how random my behavior can be though some aspects remain the same...
I don't believe I understand you very well yet Chezinu, that I agree with. xD

On June 23 2010 00:34 Korynne wrote:
Hmmm... I am trying to decide if Chill would be offended by that statement...

He's really more like Light than L most of the time.


Did you decide yet? No, I don't think I know Chill or L enough to make a statement. I will consult more veteran members of the community to find an answer.

On June 23 2010 02:21 Korynne wrote:
BM and Chez... you can PM each other. >.> So like, stop spamming up the thread... *goes to look up the morse code stuff*


What is the fun in that?
I don't suppose this is something I can argue against... though it does make quite a few of us feel less fun because we have to click spoilers and find morse code translators on google.

On June 23 2010 02:35 Korynne wrote:
YellowInk, I believe BM is referring to a game Caller ran, called the Three Kingdoms Mafia where there was Yellow Turban as a 4th party. I believe he must be mistaking you for someone else because your name is not on the player list.


How many games have you researched in the past? That way I can consider killing you or not if I'm mafia. If you know too much...
I have read very little of games prior to my existence on the mafia forum. But pretty much followed every game since (though I don't follow the games I don't play in as much). I've also read/watched RoTK so I know what Yellow Turbans are...

On June 23 2010 03:48 Korynne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote:
On June 23 2010 03:24 Korynne wrote:
BM, how is talking in morse code helpful in the thread? Anyone can put it into a morse code translator.

If you wish to speak in code in hopes that somehow magically other townies but not mafia will be able to decipher it, be my guest. But I find the whole addition of morse code or binary or any other simple translatable using google form of cryptic communication useless and disruptive to people when they want to analyze the thread.


you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams?


Uh, how does this post make any sense?
a) If I was mafia, like YellowInk pointed out, I would have twice as many people on my team, making analysis much faster.
b) If you're trying to say that as mafia I am crying unfair because mafia is supposed to be the only ones able to communicate to other teams then first of all, you still can't use IRC to coordinate with other teams, and second of all, I don't see how talking in code allows you to coordinate with other teams. Even if you set up an elaborate system with someone ahead of time, how are you sure they are not mafia?

Like, it's good that you're putting pressure on YellowInk (I haven't decided if he's scummy yet, he doesn't quite have the green glow from the game he was pardoner but I don't know if that's because he's blue, red, or just being less aggressive because he doesn't have clues) but making stupid accusations is like...wut? (read: being Bill Murray?)


Interesting, posts have to make sense...
I guess that's not a very good assumption I made there...

On June 23 2010 03:53 Korynne wrote:
OMGUS


Why didn't you vote for me then?
That was in response to YellowInk asking what OMGUS meant.

On June 23 2010 04:24 Radfield wrote:
Oh Chez....

Anyways, I agree, despite our lack of a vig, that the dt should claim once he pegs a mafia. There's no millers, so it's a for sure thing. Trading our DT for half of the mafia is a good trade, assuming we are decent players and can do some decent post analysis. The downside of this, is that once the mafia find out there is a DT, they will KNOW if there is a medic or not, and if there IS a medic, they will have a roleblocker, and roleblock the dt for the rest of the game(setup 1). So a dt claiming is either certain death, or certain roleblocking, unless we get lucky and it's the roleblocker who gets lynched(50-50 shot).

So a dt who claims has a 50% chance of dying the next night(setup 3)
and a 25% chance of getting roleblocked for the rest of the game (setup 1, with roleblocker alive)
and a 25% chance of having medic protection for the rest of the game (setup 1, with roleblocker dead)

Again, I think it's worth it for the dt to claim once he finds a red(or 2 greens as korynne stated)

As for PMing your partners, I have assumed that this is allowed. We need a mod ruling on this ASAP however. I assumed this because Korynne designed the set-up, and I assumed she knew the rules For me the whole fun of this setup is that you get to make decisions as a team, and get to bounce your ideas off of each other about who you think is scummy, or who you think might be blue, etc.


This guy actually reads my posts. He is cool.
Radfield's pretty cool, that's why I asked him to join my team. =D

On June 23 2010 04:29 Korynne wrote:
Gee Radfield, read the rules, it makes me look bad if you keep making mistakes like that. D=


However, he didn't read the rules..
I do not speak for Sir Radfield, but it disappoints me to see that he has not read the rules, and I have expressed this in a previous post.


Conclusion: Either Mafia or DT

Wait...what? How does that end up as mafia or DT? Would someone smarter than me enlighten me on how this makes us mafia or dt? >_>
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 22 2010 21:46 GMT
#140
Well I think BM and Chez are just kind of crazy and post a lot anyway... I don't really know how to read them. =\

By the way people you lynch teams, not people. xD The only case where one person and not their whole team dies is to modkills, in which case their alignment is not revealed.
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 23 2010 02:29 GMT
#201
By the way, flamewheel does his thing by random number generator L. So you can't just say oh look I found a weak mafia therefore the other mafia must be "strong." Also, I personally believe that YellowInk is rather decent, especially for someone new.

Please don't start hustling the newbies already, it's only day 1. xD
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 23 2010 13:19 GMT
#310
I don't know what the deal with Radfield is. He seems a bit missing... =(
I haven't cast my vote because I know I'll be around at the deadline so there's really no point in voting ahead of time.

In terms of inactivity, I don't really do much on day 1 unless there's something about the setup to discuss. Like, PYP with Qatol and number claiming and role claiming. The other time in Bang Bang i was trying to set up a town system which clearly didn't work... xD

I feel like I ease into the game better as days go by, so don't expect too much from me on Day 1. That being said, I will post analysis of teams in a bit (I have class now).

I will analyze BM/Chez, LaXer/bum, Durak/YI, Nikon/Zyrre.
Explanation for skipping the rest:
1. I'm not going to analyze myself...
4. I like Ace's style, so I'm probably biased, also they don't seem to be suspicious atm
6. L is L... and then there's the whole issue of Caller not really doing anything =\
8/9 Feels like they're not talking much yet, also not sure how to read new people.
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Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
June 23 2010 15:23 GMT
#315
Billinu/Chez Murray
+ Show Spoiler +

Beginning is just random spam, nothing uncharacteristic of Chez or BM though I would say.
Continuous amounts of morse code talk despite being able to PM each other and the availability of morse code translators online.
Mistakes YellowInk for someone else from Three Kingdoms Mafia.
BM states that people complaining about their encoding system are likely to be mafia...
Argument with YellowInk and stating YellowInk is scummy.
Chez disagrees with BM and says some mumbo jumbo.
Chez asks whether he should reveal if he believes a team is blue/red.
Chez posts an "analysis" of Korynne/Radfield, its overall reaction from others has been uh wut, that made no sense.
Chez states that it is a trend for mafia/blue to discuss blue roles more.
Chez says that Korynne/Radfield were too excited when the game started...
Chez says he wants to wait for L to put order to town.
Chez states that he believes YellowInk to be more town.
Chez says BM made him shit up the thread on Day 1 after L asked.
BM scrutinizes YellowInk some more, accuses Ace of wanting to kill off the only people that are scum hunting.
BM continues with morse code even after everyone basically says that's a terrible thing.
BM states Zyrre is drawing his FoS.
Chez states that having only a select few being able to read his code makes the game "fun"
BM still onto Zyrre.
Etc etc. BM says he's town.
Chez plays a kind of "victim" role where he's like omg BM isn't explaining things to me, why can't town analyze me instead of him?
Chez "breaks up" with BM, and is now supposedly doing his own thing.
More randomly BM/Chez bickering in the thread...
BM/Chez really onto the whole "vote analysis" idea. If they turn up scum, I would examine their take on the vote analysis more.
BM claims that they are normal townies, not medic.
Etc etc etc.

Chez and BM regularly post random things indicating that they have not spoken to each other for a while or need to speak to each other. Not sure how to read this, but they seem to do this alot.

Oh btw, in response to "No idea on my read on them, but they have yet to come up with their own idea on who to vote for which is scummy by my new theory"
We don't really need to come up with our own idea on who to vote for if we haven't voted yet... I would say it's only scummy if I just voted for whoever had a bunch of votes and said like oh yeah, what he said, you know...

Conclusion: Well they are really active... so I mean that's a plus. However quality of posting isn't all that great, but it is Day 1. I'm okay with letting them live at least another day to get a better read, since they are pretty guaranteed to speak a lot.
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