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On June 23 2010 06:38 johnnyspazz wrote: oh man i feel like a detective! LOL, nice stealth medic claim there guys. Now that it's in the open, let's see if you die tonight. | ||
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I now have cast my vote for Team Two, for the following reasons: + Show Spoiler [Reasons!] + On June 23 2010 02:13 Bill Murray wrote: since i view you as red, we should lynch your entire team? if I feel like you are posting like you did when you were a yellow turban, i shouldn't sit idly while you try to ruin my game? such wise words from someone who is likely to be scum. perhaps you are doing the exact thing you're saying scum will do: ? I am going to assume we are out of the RVS, and use this hypocrisy as the basis for my voting you. You are doing exactly what you'd advocate red to do - appearing town without helping all that much. Instead of discussing what someone would do... why are you even thinking of that, by the way?... you should be scumhunting but are not. Even L's obvious OMGUS is a lot less suspicious to me than this. Especially on day 1, there isn't really anything wrong with saying apparently obvious stuff like this: there are new people in this game, and, in their own words: On June 22 2010 22:39 Durak wrote:This is my first game of mafia so my skill level is noob. When it gets suspicious is when people start to take really surface-level stuff like this into late game. However, this is Day 1, so we can't really get a read on YI yet. I agree with his statement too (and I know this may be damning myself, considering the accusations flying around Jspazz already, but hey, YI is right and it should be acknowledged). I think you know this is a good idea yourself, but you are trying to muddle up his idea in random accusations. Not cool. On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote: you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams? VERY combative, especially early on. This is also a pretty baseless accusation, a thinly veiled insult, and completely unhelpful to the game. And she was right, y'know. Its disruptive. But when you translate it... (quoted jspazz because he was awesome and translated it already) On June 23 2010 06:38 johnnyspazz wrote: oh man i feel like a detective! Ok then... this is a VERY thinly veiled medic claim. I doublechecked the translation using the following site: http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.html and it is accurate to the best of my knowledge. So congrats, you guys claimed medic. On day 1. All we know out of this is that you for sure aren't medic... but why even try to claim in the first place. If you are town (or god forbid, actually medic), you've basically committed suicide, as mafia don't really have much to go on with their night 1 kill, so they might as well try to see if they can nail one of the two blue roles in the game (if there are any, anyway). If you survive... it just really makes you look scummy. The only way I can see this being a good idea would be if you somehow discovered who the real medic was (on DAY FREAKIN ONE), convinced them you were town, and claimed so that the mafia would hit you, but the medic could protect you, thus wasting a mafia KP ...hmm, that's actually not a bad strategy if you can pull it off, but I reiterate. It's DAY FREAKIN ONE. There's no way you found the medic (if there is one) that quickly. There's also the possibility that you and Chez were just fucking around with that claim... but I doubt it. Chez might be random, but you, BM, usually post stuff for a reason. And I think that you are lying. And I don't like liars. I could do some analysis on chez... but right now he's too random to get a read on. If people really want me to I can try later, but for now, following YI's idea... one scum read on a team should be enough to lynch that team. Thus, I say Team Two should be our target for today. | ||
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On June 23 2010 10:45 Durak wrote: Who is this clown? You go afk all day, come back, and make some ridiculously biased "summary" post. First of all, you say "our main options" as if you're some authority. You haven't said anything in this thread to separate you from anyone else. In fact, you've just kept under the radar. Second of all, your bolded choices are biased. Your first post in this thread, before anything began, accuses 2 and 8. You repeated the same people in this post even though they have been discussed relatively little. Rather, people have pointed their fingers at you. Give me some analysis or I don't see any reason to listen to you. You're talking bigger than you have shown. Agreed, nicely done new guy! L, can I see some reasons for FOSing me/my team, please? | ||
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On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote: The post you're me-tooing, its pretty interesting. Me going 'afk' all day like its a bad thing? I've said multiple times that I work. I'm gone the majority of the day but i post when I'm here. Second, I've gone under the radar? I have the first large post of the game. I've called people out in nearly every fucking post I've made. Who the fuck are YOU by contrast? Near 0 contributions thusfar coming from a quiet team. Korynne and flamewheel can back me up on this. I had told them I was going to be gone until wednesday, so to put me on a 3 person team so that my inactivity wouldn't be noticed. If you'd actually taken the time to read the signup thread, you would know this. Knocking me for inactivity when I've had a planned absence is just silly. Plus, the reason I think your list is stupid isn't because you had work all day and were gone, it's because you had work all day, were gone, THEN you came back and just put up a single list with NO EXPLANATION. Summary: Learn to read, and learn to back up your lynch-lists if you don't want them called into question. On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote: Third, no, those choices aren't biased. They were based on the last 3 pages prior to that post and summarized what other people were saying at that point. I've been gone for the majority of the day, as you've said. What's more, I explicitly push both Ace and Radfield's team in that post, meaning that out of the 5 teams I'm watching, only 2 I had on my radar at the start. Again, it doesn't matter if you're "summarizing what other people said" you need to SAY THAT in the first place. Otherwise, people are going to call you on it. When you react to people calling on it by acting like a monkey in a cage, flinging poo on as many people as possible, it makes you look bad. On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote: So, given that all your claims are terrible, why are you making them? Well, its because the biggest chunk of my post is essentially saying that if you flip red, I'm pretty sure I know who your allies are. That makes you quite possibly the best lynch target for the night. Instead of arguing that you're legit, you instead throw out some OMGUS. So brownbear, why you supporting an obviously garbage post? From the content and retaliatory nature, its poor on both counts. The only reason I can even start to imagine is that you're happy someone is accusing people who accuse you. Well, yeah, wouldn't you be? Someone accused me (well, my team) for some pretty weak reasons, I'm glad people are calling them on it. Also, you have no right to yell "OMGUS" on me, given you had the first and most retarded OMGUS of the game. Also, my allies are who? On June 23 2010 11:01 L wrote:As for Durak or whatever, lol you're pretty jokes. Uhh, wut? Summary: Try harder next time! Also, stop throwing FoS around like it's fucking candy on halloween. It's not helping us. | ||
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I currently have my vote on the BM-Chez team, simply because they drew my attention first. BM or Chez, if you want to make a post saying why I shouldn't lynch you/why I should lynch Team Caller-L, feel free. Similarly, L or Caller, if you want to post saying why I should keep my vote where it is, go right ahead. Given the weird nature of the game, I really don't see the merit of lynching Team 7, since it gives us no information to go on. | ||
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And LaXer: I know, I know, I tend to drop off the face of the earth for long periods at a time, I'm sorry. It's a constant struggle, I'm working on it. | ||
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On June 25 2010 09:21 Korynne wrote: Wow this thread died... can we get some people to do analysis? Me and Radfield both did a couple already... but I'll do more later on. Honestly, I don't have that much to say right now. I'm waiting to see what the result of the night actions are before making any decisions/posts. | ||
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On June 25 2010 15:33 bumatlarge wrote: This for instance strikes me as a way L's demeanor helps him. I would never make this kind of post on a team I was about to kill. But again maybe L has some convoluted scheme revolving around he knew what he was doing then, planned on killing korynne, and then assuming someone would pick up it later, and take it as a evidence of him not being scum. Hard as it is to believe, this actually makes me less suspicious of L. In a mafia game, it's not very common for scum to kill people they are arguing with, as that can cast suspicion on them, and L, despite his playstyle I don't agree with, has to know this. Especially since he's acting alone at this point, it can't have been his teammate(s) being dumb, so it's difficult to continue pointing FOS at him. He's not cleared in my book, but he definitely looks a bit less suspicious. Let's look at other teams: Team 1: dead :'( Team 2: dead >< Team 3: bumatlarge has produced some diamonds of quality and a small ocean of spam. LaXer is playing like I do: probably not posting as much as he should, but trying to make each post count. bum is having a fatty argument with L right now, which could be something to look at. Team 4: I'm a bit confused as to why they didn't die either. Maybe mafia is concerned there might be a medic in the game, and tried to hit someone they thought a less likely target? Probably not true, considering Radfield is the most likely target in the game, so if medic exists he's dumb. Either way, back to them: pro-town, most people seem to think so, I agree, moving on. Team 5: The "new" team (Yellow's second game, Durak's first), but they've proven themselves to be pretty talented so far. Some solid analysis coming out of Durak, a couple holes in their logic as a whole but nothing particularly scummy. Again, they've had a little spat with L (both of them, not just one element of their team), so that might be worth checking into. Team 6: L is annoying, but as I said above, I'm less suspicious of him following night 1. I'm still keeping an eye on him. Team 7: Still waaaaay too inactive. I don't want to lynch an inactive just for inactivity though. Here's hoping they post more. Team 8: Someone else gotta do the analysis here Team 9: Here's the team I'm now a little concerned about. Divinek had a LOT of posts day 1, but very little content to them, and it looked more like he was trying to establish himself as an active player, WITHOUT actually adding anything to the town discussion. That's disturbing to me. DCLXVI I have barely seen at all, except for a few posts targeting Korynne... He wanted her lynched, and she wanted him lynched. Now she is dead. Unlike L, I don't think Team 9 would have the experience to hold back on killing someone they'd had a public argument in the thread with... It's a little shaky, but I think Team 9 looks the most suspicious to me right now. | ||
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On June 26 2010 02:22 DCLXVI wrote: Even if you were to assume that we were dumb enough to do that, you would also have to assume that the mafia team we are paired with is stupid enough to go along with that... If you go by the reasoning that team 4 and L are smart enough to hold back from lynching each other, then it is reasonable that one of them is mafia. The mafia would probably rather hit one of the two major townie teams arguing than the two inactive and suspected teams. If neither team 4 or 6 were mafia, then surely the mafia would want the town jump on the one not killed. I don't suspect L right now because Caller dropped out and L argued against team1(rad/kory),4 recently, sort of supporting the ever scummy team 9. Well, that's the thing: Ive played with L before, and I know he knows how stuff like this works. I haven't really played with either of you ever, so I have no clue if you would know whether that's an obvious scumtell or not. It's pretty soft evidence, thats why I didn't outright accuse you: I'm just saying that your voting pattern, posting patterns, and the game events make you somewhat suspicious. Not scummy, just suspicious. As for your logic behind the Team 4 vs L thing... The thing is, both L and Team 4 had arguments with Team 2... and I'm reasonably sure L is smart enough to not ragekill them, and I know for sure that Ace and DTA are smart enough to not ragekill them. Thus, I'm not really looking at those arguments as saying anything, other than Team 4 and Team L look less suspicious. That said, DTA is a masterful player, and can easily appear clean when he isn't. This doesn't mean I'm accusing him at all ( <3 you DTA :3 ) but I am watching him closer than I would a newbie. (what, me, sore about last game? Nevar! :D) I still think you and Divinek need to step up and look less suspicious, though. There is not much to go on for this day, so even appearing suspicious can be deadly. And Team 7 needs to step the fuck up, seriously. | ||
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On June 26 2010 05:11 bumatlarge wrote: I hear what you're saying yellow, and expected it ( in a good way). I agree on alot of what you say, but I personally have been a bit more of a town vibe from T9 based on posting. Most of the inactive teams are still too vague to judge by votes. Inactivity is still a problem and probably will be through the game, but any thoughts on team 4? Im sure you have some opinions of darth after the other game. He seems to state that his posting wold be exactly the same whether hes mafia or town. I know you were in pm contact for a bit and trusted what he had said for the most part. Your word would outclass mine in this regard. I know yo generally feel that game was a bit nooby, but I doubt you let that distrupt your messages to darth. We can't say "OMG Darth looks pro town he must be scum" because there's a 5 in 7 chance that he actually IS town, and is trying to post helpful, pro-town stuff. We can watch him, but remember - past games have absolutely no bearing on the present game. Playstyles continue, teams do not. Like I said just above - I'm watching Darth closely, because it's true, he's incredibly good at playing scum. But we have to stop short from outright accusing DTA until we actually have evidence to go on. | ||
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Also, LaXer has been dropping off in quality since I posted that. At the time I posted, he'd been a little better at actually using his posts for something. Hopefully he'll step it back up, otherwise I'll have to take a second look at him. And 1 and 2? What? I am confused. It's really difficult to read your post. | ||
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My vote is going to team 9 at the moment. It could change later if they make themselves less suspicious, but I might as well vote now, just in case something comes up and I forget later. | ||
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Ace. If L isn't scum, I'm voting for you, sorry bro. Everyone else: reread and make your own decisions. | ||
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