TL Mafia XXVI

On June 05 2010 08:18 ElyAs wrote:
So, LaXerCannon. Did you receive a PM from DarthThienAn ? :o

On June 05 2010 09:41 DarthThienAn wrote:


Yesh, I'm gonna be lynching jiabung, unless someone comes up with a good defense for him for some reason. He's as good a target as TyranoS in terms of clues and inactivity, etc. However, some people have been pushing for TyranoS without much explanation - something mafia can do quite easily without being noticed/looking suspicious. So as a bit of a precaution / to hopefully increase our chances at hitting mafia, lynch target is gonna be jiabung.

^props to YI for pointing this out to me through PM.


Anyone who was thinking about zeks: zeks is too active for a day 1 lynch - inactivity over "possible" scum. Maybe later if we think so, but not today for sure.

I don't remember if they were any other potential targets. Oh, LaXer has posted an "I'm back" post - still not off the hook for inactivity, but it's nice to see him alive.

On June 05 2010 21:36 MooCow wrote:
Whoa lots of reading after waking up!

The first posts that kind of "shocked" me were LaXerCannon and 3 Lions, just because they haven't been very active and they start the night phase by instantly trying to link people to clues. I know 3L gave a reason but meh seems a bit suspicious to me.

On June 06 2010 01:25 YellowInk wrote:
To clean out the shadows, so to speak, I'd like to propose a clear policy of anti-inactivity. In these early days before we have any good targets to hang (if for some reason we do get good targets to hang we will of course go after named scum as a priority), I suggest that we target those who are inactive. The large scale purpose of this is not that I actually desire to hang anyone due to inactivity (since unfortunately most of these people are likely to be town - especially so in a game filled with new players), but to impress the importance that we cannot effectively combat the scum if people lurk.

Therefore, I propose the following requirements to all posters: You must post your thoughts on at least four different people each day. Give reasoning (this is important). These thoughts must be spaced out such that two of these posts must be at least 12 hours apart. That is to say you can talk about 3 people at one point, then just sometime later in the day you have to give thoughts on another person. This is a bare minimum requirement. I encourage people who really are town to go ahead and post as much of their thoughts as they are willing.

It is also important that you post as much original thought as you can. Since this is not something easily judged, I'm not putting it in the above requirements. However the mafia will be forced to conceal their intentions in some way - and one of the easiest ways they could choose to do so is to just parrot the thoughts that others have already expressed. So if you're town, don't do this! You may agree with their thoughts and voice that you do so agree, just don't count it as one of your four thoughts for the day.

The consequence for failure to meet this policy will be that you will be eligible to be hung solely on the basis of your inactivity. In this early game, we will often not have great scum targets. If everyone were to talk a lot, we might have some decent reads on folk. Furthermore, we'd have more information in the mid to late game from all of this early talk to figure out who is mafia.

Please discuss your thoughts on this policy. This is something the town has to agree upon since people are lynched by majority vote. I think it is clear how this policy will have a long term effect of benefiting town.

On June 06 2010 01:39 YellowInk wrote:
@LaXerCannon and Thegilaboy concerns expressed

I don't see why the 12 hour thing is a challenge. You have a 48 hour window. This means you could post at hour 0 and hour 40 and you'd be fine. Or you could post at hour 24 and hour 36. It doesn't much matter to me. I'm sure almost everyone here has a job/school/regular obligations. Over the course of 48 hours you should be able to find two times to post.

The purpose of the 12 hour policy is to prevent someone from sitting down and posting once (or in one sitting nearly back to back) in the entire 48 hours. I want to hear your impressions at different times in the day (at least twice). Does this make more sense?

On June 06 2010 12:05 YellowInk wrote:


I see the connection with Zeks - he has a ninja in his profile. It's why he came up before.

Why is TheGilaboy included? Isn't that just a zealot on the left? On the right I'm not so sure what it is. And the same with TyranoS_NiveK, that's just a zealot.

On June 06 2010 12:11 YellowInk wrote:


Ah, I see. I have been out-geeked. I thought DTs had scythes not straight blades.

On June 06 2010 12:14 YellowInk wrote:
It's worth noting in particular that both with this kill and with a clue in the opening there was specifically a knife involved. To me, this points much more heavily towards an actual ninja than a DT. That being said, there may be other places we can link this besides Zeks' ninja.

On June 06 2010 12:35 DarthThienAn wrote:


defenestration? what is that? o.O


Another thing that might be a clue is " ElyAs moved quickly, breaking into a quick run, hoping to make it back home before he was overtaken. However, he was not to make it." which suggests someone who is a fast runner - not sure we have anyone like that though. The killer also beats ElyAs to the town courthouse in the post.

Of course, the main thing here is stealth - LD, it's true that stealth is usually present in all mafia-death-stories, but in this case, I think it's worth considering, only because of how accented the stealth of the killer is. He was "a masked figure" and "stealthily kept to the shadows" which is pretty explicit. A knife is a normal tool, but combined with the thrown knife from Day 1, I'd consider it significant.


As for barth's death, I'm not sure what to make of it... a weight pushed on him, to make him go OUTSIDE. so the weight come from inside - could've just been a normal person there pushing him, or it could've been a trap of some sort, with swinging weights etc. Seems more subtle than that though.

On June 06 2010 16:03 DCLXVI wrote:
Well many of the "clues" that people are making connections to I find to be far fetched. I think that trying to hang someone off the clues is a bad idea and either some stronger connections should be made or we should focus more on reading into what people say and wait for more "clues". Granted ignoring information is a bad idea, I just think that right now we could get farther by reading into what people say since they should be posting more.
And by every post mentioning TheGilaBoy you mean everyone posting "DTs in his profile!" or the fortress-barricade "connection" which is about the townies, not the killer... yes really, please list a few. The only other plausible one I find is the gila monster - poison one.

-Really LaXerCannon? do you just want to take the heat off you that you vote 40 hours early? What could possibly have made you make up your mind so quickly about this?