EPTTL Mafia XXVI
| Forum Index > TL Mafia |
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
| ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=118395 Understanding everyone's profiles will take a while I see. @ DarthThienAn how do you connect TheGilaBoy to a knife throw? his quotation? On June 03 2010 12:01 DarthThienAn wrote: Looking quickly threw for the thrown knife clue, found these things: + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/flamewheel/TL_Mafia_XXVI/14_zeks.jpg (Shikamaru = Naruto character, ninja = throws knives, etc.) http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/flamewheel/TL_Mafia_XXVI/18_TyranoS_NiveK.jpg http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/flamewheel/TL_Mafia_XXVI/1_TheGilaboy.jpg | ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On June 03 2010 13:06 zeks wrote: Even if the clue turns negative you're not clear at ALL. You said it yourself that it was a clear and obvious clue...its Day 1. I think we all should know better than to base all our suspicions on clues only. Besides I think that clue is way too obvious to be you. I'd advise the DTs to actually start role-checking right away. You only have 3 role checks so use them as quick as possible (and as wisely as possible). Also mafia has a killing power of 3 so use your role checks before you get picked off. Also you can't use rolechecks on consecutive days either. Once the DT has clearly identified the role of someone then they can start an inner circle and start from there. The only risk this strategy runs into is if they somehow check the Godfather...but thats a risk I'm willing to take since its 1/30 chance you somehow role-check the GF That and role checking a miller might delay that strategy. And this can always clear YellowInk (for that one bit about the hot ink) if he becomes mayor: 2. Does X contain a clue that points to Y? (Where X is part of a Day post and Y is a player's name) (called a "Clue Check") | ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On June 03 2010 13:29 MooCow wrote: I agree with Onihunter on this one, I too can't see why you would get hung earlier. Was going to say the same thing also at most people have only 1-3 things linking them to the day 1 clues and some of them are a bit of a stretch. So I assume any info the DT's find are told to everyone in this thread about clues etc? I assume flamewheel will pm the DT in response. And I don't think any DT would want to make him/herself a big target by announcing his/her role by posting flamewheel's response. | ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
| ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On June 04 2010 01:52 zeks wrote: I don't understand how an overlap of investigations can link the DTs together. Perhaps you can explain that further. If two (or more) DTs rolecheck the same person and then pm him/her. That person can then pm each DT letting them know about the other DT. I stated my plan: hopefully we'll hear a more constructive plan from you other than the first one that got dissected quite quickly. Yes, I would like to hear the plans of all of the candidates, and all of the "clues" pointing to them. Just to clarify, there are separate votes for Mayor/pardoner right? Or is it most votes - mayor, 2nd place - pardoner? | ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On June 04 2010 05:39 LunarDestiny wrote: YellowInk, I (we?) don't trust you. The only reason you keep bring up is that you know you are not mafia. Do you expect people to believe what you are saying based on your words alone? This is true, but by this logic how can we trust the "I like Darth, he is a good player, he should be mayor". What is stopping you two from being mafia? | ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
YellowInk: I don't like how he just seems to jump around accusing everyone. He also seems to think that the ink "clue" makes him a perfect candidate: easily cleaned or mafia, which is wrong. I have no idea what he will do in office, but I hope that if he gets a position he does not continue to act like he does now pointing fingers at everyone. Either dumb mafia or hotheaded townie DarthTheinAn: He has had a very neutral opinion on most subjects and has argued peacefully. This has caused many people to believe he is a townie, and he is riding this good vibe to an office. Somewhat suspicious how several people voted for him already, some who have not even explained their reasons for doing so. He seems coolheaded and collected at least, not one to make hasty decisions or jump at people's throats. either calm and cool townie or smart and calm mafia Zeks: Not sure what to think about him. He does not seem to be the most clever of candidates or the most knowledgeable, without a clear idea of how the roles can interact. However, I would rather a scum mayor like him than a scum mayor that can manipulate people well. I want to see how he responds to the recent discussion so I can finish evaluating him. Either inexperienced/uncreative townie or very smart mafia BrownBear: Similar to DTA, but more involved in the arguments with YI and willing to take a stand on things. His late arrival into the campaigning and supporting DTA could be a clever mafia ploy, but I don't think so. I think he doesn't want a mayor like YI and decided to do something about it. either smart townie or mafia I don't like either of my guesses about YI or zeks, but I suppose zeks is the most likely townie. DTA and BB are hard to decide on. I almost want to vote crate or myself, but I fear that will cause more confusion and allow the mafia to get both offices. If no one steps up their campaign though... I think the mayor should lynch TyranoS_NiveK because he already voted DTA, has barely posted, and maybe has a clue related to him. | ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On June 04 2010 14:59 YellowInk wrote: I just want to make sure you've read http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=127781¤tpage=19#361 since it responds to the thoughts you've expressed here. Also, with some of my longer term views re: hotheadedness http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=127781¤tpage=19#368 Maybe you were writing this post went up before you had the chance to read them since they were two of my more recent posts. You need not worry that I would be reckless in office.  lol yeah im reading that now. I started my post back on page 18 and it took longer than expected. I will update my analysis on you once I read that. | ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
Ok so it seemed as if half of your opponents/competitors jumped ship and decided to back you. Either this is a very clever and well planned mafia trick, or people really do have faith in you. I have no problem in you investigating people, but I do not like how you accuse people of being scum so quickly and with very little (read: none) evidence. Just lay out the facts and show us that you can make level headed decisions and I don't have too much against you (as long as you are not a newbie scum.) Not sure what to think about LD and BB backing you now, but DTA's response should be helpful in clarifying this situation. I'm sorry if it seems like I don't trust anyone, but that is because I don't have a clear idea of how smart everyone is. This game would be so much easier if I knew just how tricky each person can be. | ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
| ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
Seriously though, trying to figure out DTA is driving me crazy. His posts feel townie, and he does everything he can to help the town. But many people just vote for him randomly and/or support him so quickly. Either we have overly trusting townies or he is mafia (with LD). I really hope not though. lol at me "possessing the printer" causing it to explode ^^ Question DTA: who has been pushing lynch Tyranos? I know I have mentioned that he was on both list and YI did too? | ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On June 05 2010 13:08 LunarDestiny wrote: For detective: If your result shows mafia role, keep it to yourself. If your result shows town role, you can use him to be your spoke person (there is a small chance that the person is godfather which shows up as townie in checks). Godfather The Godfather has the ability to decide what role he will appear to be when a Detective role checks him. The godfather can be tricky, as he can role claim and turn up clean to role checks. Watch out for any blue roles too. | ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
I guess I should not have added so much to my profile, so easy to randomly link clues to it now  I will catch up and respond later tonight, i'm only on pg27 now | ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On June 06 2010 00:31 YellowInk wrote: DCLXVI - You've expressed a fair number of thoughts. Definitely on the middle of the road in my opinion. You aligned with me fairly early, expressed suspicion in DTA, and noted TyranoS as a good lynch target. Express more of how you feel about everyone and you'll make a great active player. Not sure if I would say I "aligned" with you. I feel that (as moocow said) one of you two is probably scum. I felt that DTA is more suspicious then, making you less likely to be scum. It is getting harder to distrust both of you now but I don't mind being the overly suspicious guy. Another thing I noticed and is potentially harmful is how people (mainly me) use either or statements. Either he could be a townie and doing this or a mafia and doing that. However, there is always the possibility that clever scum are trying to trick you into thinking that they are townie. I usually just state the two most likely options, but more experienced players could be playing a higher game. Granted that is normally risky for mafia, but with a pool of new and old players it is less risky. there is a lot of discussion on talking more, but I think that I have been providing a reasonable amount. I don't post as well as crate or MTF or as much as YI/DTA/LD but I contribute... can't wait for day 2 clues | ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On June 06 2010 14:58 littlechava wrote: That said, Thegilaboy has actually been voted for already, and it doesn't seem like such a terrible choice since he's one of the few with multiple clues pointing towards him. If I was going to vote based solely on clues, I'd be voting for either Thegilaboy or zeks. Well if we hang him and he turns out to be townie, then we should hang you. It seems quite suspicious to accuse someone that quickly and try to bring down suspicion on him. At least try to list out a few possible clue connections and scum sounding posts/actions before accusing active people like that. | ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
And by every post mentioning TheGilaBoy you mean everyone posting "DTs in his profile!" or the fortress-barricade "connection" which is about the townies, not the killer... yes really, please list a few. The only other plausible one I find is the gila monster - poison one. -Really LaXerCannon? do you just want to take the heat off you that you vote 40 hours early? What could possibly have made you make up your mind so quickly about this? | ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
MTF cut in between and I was too lazy to quote | ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On June 07 2010 11:27 pyr0ma5ta wrote: 1) Read 2) Interpret 3) Post I'm not whining. Re-read my posts. Use math. When 17 people vote for Darth, what's the probability that a couple of them will also vote for the same person the next round when there are only 2 poeple being voted for? mmmkthx. I feel like a bloody broken record. I'm not trying to change his mind, as I've conceded he's allowed to vote as he chooses. I'm pointing out a particularly horrible line of logic that is likely to point 3 future lynches at, well, people who happen to have similar sleep schedules. Don't worry about it, you can't please everyone. Some people will just pretend to read your posts or purposely misinterpret what you say (I'm looking at you littlechava) It is interesting to not that this "large group of people" who voted together did not vote for the same person for mayor. Granted by the time CompX voted for YI the vote was already decided... I hope more people follow crate's example and post about other players posting habits and decisions. I am working a little less this week so I should be able to contribute too. I still find the clues to be pretty useless right now, but the people who think that the clues have some bearing can come up with a list of clues that can be checked by our DTs. That would be about the only useful thing that people who are thinking so clue centered can do. | ||
|
DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On June 07 2010 12:53 YellowInk wrote: The problem with this is the risk vs reward. Suppose a DT checks out MTF and finds him to be mafia. If that is an accurate connection, it could be a very swift triple lynching. All of this at risk just to get MTF some evidence of looking like town. Of course keep the idea in mind for later in the game when we find out such things, but I'm inclined to believe MTF. Well, MTF could be the godfather, which would help his story fit even better under a rolecheck. We really need to hear from the medic that saved him. I think a somewhat risky but very rewarding strategy may be to vote lynch MTF until the medic role claimed to you and DTA. Even if one of you two are mafia, the other would report no pm from medics. Also, if the medic was then hit we know that it is extremely likely that one of you two is scum. possible risks that I see: the medic doesn't roleclaim for some reason, and we lose a valuable poster YI pardons him and gives some bs excuse... still good for town I think a mafia fake roleclaims (maybe even the godfather with dt as his fake role). Then MTF would gain false townie credit. Still, we have to assume that it is likely that only the GF would try a risky strategy like this. The roleclaiming mafia could then be rolechecked. | ||
| ||
