[FPL] R4 Discussion

Hot_Bid

Braavos36388 Posts

April 06 2010 15:22 GMT

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08-09 R2 FPL1 | Rankings | Awards - intrigue + Show Spoiler [Top 10] +

1. intrigue - 273
2. doubleupgradeobbies! - 213
3. TonyL2 - 212
4. Hot_Bid - 212
5. OneOther - 207
6. ArvickHero - 207
7. Dyno. - 206
8. tiffany - 203
9. IntoTheWow - 202
10. brjdrb - 202

08-09 R3 FPL2 | Rankings | Awards - Nikk + Show Spoiler [Top 10] +

1. Nikk - 243
2. Samurai- - 237
3. Carefree Me - 236
3. bumatlarge - 236
5. d(O.o)a - 235
6. ondik - 234
7. ~chut~ - 233
7. Ctoan55 - 233
9. AnyOne - 232
9. Incognitodies - 232
9. miseiler - 232

08-09 R4 FPL3 | Rankings | Awards - doubleupgradeobbies! + Show Spoiler [Top 10] +

1. doubleupgradeobbies! - 183
2. SK Telecom T1 - 173
3. Liquid`Zephyr - 171
4. Pizzown - 167
5. brjdrb - 165
5. wtflah - 165
7. BroOd - 164
8. Solidus_315 - 164
9. Initial_H.C.- 159
10. [AhunGrY]MelOn - 157

08-09 R5 FPL4 | Rankings | Awards - pripple + Show Spoiler [Top 10] +

1. pripple - 218
2. heygk - 216
3. lazz - 209
4. wiesel - 208
5. DalaiLameR - 207
6. Kaolla - 207
7. supergirl - 206
8. StarKiller- 205
9. pachi - 205
10. Fr33t - 204

09-10 R1 FPL5 | Rankings | Awards - mh.3.9 + Show Spoiler [Top 10] +

1. mh.3.9 - 217
2. IntoTheWow - 217
3. DalaiLameR - 216
4. KP_CollectoR - 214
5. the PUNisher - 214
6. Kyuukyuu - 213
7. Neptuneajax - 210
8. Hot_Bid - 208
9. SHr3DD3r - 204
10. Samurai- - 204

09-10 R2 FPL6 | Rankings | Awards - platypuses0 + Show Spoiler [Top 10] +

1. platypuses0 - 237
2. DejaVu119 - 234
3. Zanzar - 230
4. Kyuukyuu - 223
5. Pryce - 222
6. Mr Right - 215
7. VictorW - 211
8. thopol - 211
9. DalaiLameR - 209
10. Japakazol - 208

09-10 R3 FPL7 | Rankings | Awards - Radfield + Show Spoiler [Top 10] +

1. Radfield - 186
2. mrlie3 - 181
3. CorsairHero - 180
4. RainmanMP - 179
5. jojoquirion - 174
6. Numba - 172
7. Scamp - 172
8. blapsd - 171
8. Crunchums - 171
8. IcMp - 171
8. orcsmash - 171

09-10 R4 FPL8 | Rankings | Awards - Signups Open

Three Top 10 Finishes:
DalaiLameR

Two Top 10 Finishes:
brjdrb
doubleupgradeobbies!
Hot_Bid
IntoTheWow
Kyuukyuu
Samurai-

Fantasy Proleague Scoring

Player Scoring:
Lineup Appearance (non-Ace): +1 Point*
Game Win (Ace included): +2 Points
Game Loss (Ace included): -1 Point
Ace Match Appearance: +2 Points
3-Game Win Streak: +1 Point
6-Game Win Streak: +2 Points
9-Game Win Streak: +3 Points
Break Another Player's Streak: +1 Point
Your Player's Team Wins: +1 Point**

*This point is applied even if your player does not play; he only has to appear in the lineup
**This counts for all players on the team's roster, even if they did not play in the match

Team Scoring:
3-0 Victory: 6 Points
3-1 Victory: 4 Points
3-2 Victory: 2 Points
2-3 Defeat: 0 Points
1-3 Defeat: -1 Point
0-3 Defeat: -2 Points

Miscellaneous
Trade Tax: -1

Scoring Example:
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Hwaseung OZ 3-2 SK Telecom T1
HiyA > (T)

fantasy

Young < BeSt
Jaedong > (Z)

Hyuk

Lomo < BoxeR
Jaedong > (P)

Bisu

Hwaseung Oz: 2 Points (+2 for 3-2 Victory)
SK Telecom T1: 0 Points (+0 for 2-3 Defeat)
Jaedong: 8 Points (+1 for lineup, +4 for 2 wins, +2 for ace selection, +1 for team win)
Hiya: 4 Points (+1 for lineup, +2 for win, +1 for team win)
Best: 3 Points (+1 for lineup, +2 for win)
Boxer: 3 Points (+1 for lineup, +2 for win)
Young: 1 Point (+1 for lineup, -1 for loss, +1 for team win)
Lomo: 1 Point (+1 for lineup, -1 for loss, +1 for team win)
Bisu: 1 Point (+2 for ace selection, -1 for loss)
Fantasy: 0 Points (+1 for lineup, -1 for loss)
Everyone else on Hwaseung Oz: 1 Point (+1 for team win)
Everyone else on SK Telecom T1: 0 Points

Good Luck!

Note: Please do not post your teams in this thread unless you add a lot of analysis about it. This is a thread about discussion, not signups, so there will be no spam posting of just your FPL team here. Thanks!

Hot_Bid

Braavos36388 Posts

April 06 2010 15:55 GMT

Bisu has been added and is available for teams.

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Quick note about Bisu. He has returned to SKT but we are waiting until the lineups come out before estimating his price. He will be available for selection as soon as lineups come out in the next few days, before PL starts this weekend.

TwoToneTerran

United States8841 Posts

April 06 2010 16:16 GMT

Rofl, Flash at 12. I want to buy him but holy crap. What would he have to score to make up that price? As I don't see him getting too many ace matches even if he wins 90% of his games.

Chen

United States6344 Posts

April 06 2010 16:25 GMT

so its impossible to gain points from your anti?
back to picking players that never play i guess

Jackal03

Brazil7469 Posts

April 06 2010 16:27 GMT

LOL, flash is TWELVE points!

no way i can have him now!

Hot_Bid

Braavos36388 Posts

April 06 2010 16:29 GMT

On April 07 2010 01:25 Chen wrote:
so its impossible to gain points from your anti?
back to picking players that never play i guess

No, its no longer possible to gain from your anti. It was kind of a mythic dream anyway, very few people gained from their anti when it was possible, so the best strategy was still to pick those that didn't lay. Perhaps we'll try to change this next season.

dukethegold

Canada5645 Posts

April 06 2010 16:30 GMT

Flash is 12 points! You gotta be a pretty hardcore Flash fan to take him. I'll experiment a bit to see whether it is possible to fit him in without drastic steps such as taking a 0 point player...

Garnet

Vietnam9033 Posts

April 06 2010 16:31 GMT

Yeah new FPL season!.

ndralcasid

United States524 Posts

April 06 2010 16:36 GMT

Wow....I don't think it's possible to make an anti without having at least one of them play an ace match =(

Pergamon

Sweden100 Posts

April 06 2010 16:41 GMT

#10

On April 07 2010 01:36 ndralcasid wrote:
Wow....I don't think it's possible to make an anti without having at least one of them play an ace match =(

Just pick Effort and Skyhigh, thats 12 points right there. CJ won't be playing many ace matches, i feel. And then just pick a random ACE player.

TwoToneTerran

United States8841 Posts

April 06 2010 16:44 GMT

#11

CJ's much stronger in the regular season, that seems like a really risky move considering both players will play almost every game.

Jackal03

Brazil7469 Posts

April 06 2010 16:45 GMT

#12

i wish effort were cheaper, since he is slumping...

7 points is a high risk

Tekin

2711 Posts

April 06 2010 16:48 GMT

#13

ill have to wait until they add bisu on the list.

JodoYodo

Canada1772 Posts

April 06 2010 16:49 GMT

#14

Haha that season I gained 4 points off Ruby for having him on my anti. I think putting Skyhigh and Effort both on your anti-team is very high risk. I prefer to hedge.

My anti is looking like:
Jangbi - 6
Modesty - 3
Hoejja - 4

I think Jangbi is definitely worth less than 6 points. He's a lot less likely to play Ace match than Stork or even FBH.
Modesty is pretty bad, got some fluke wins and is a ZvZ sniper, which is my only fear that he'll snipe Calm or Effort or Jaedong in an ace match [Edit] Not calm my bad
Hoejja is the worst 4 pointer, will get KT points but otherwise I don't expect much from him.

Phelix

1931 Posts

April 06 2010 16:50 GMT

#15

Luxury is priced at 2 this season, seems like a cheap pick. I know about the Luxury Chaos Theory that was posted by Hot Bid, and that I picked him up only for the team win component. He went 2-2 in Winner's League, so it was not up or down.

What are your predictions for Luxury this season?

Kyuukyuu

Canada6263 Posts

April 06 2010 16:50 GMT

#16

Hm, picking players after WL inflation/deflation is always tricky. This is going to occupy a lot of my time lol

Jackal03

Brazil7469 Posts

April 06 2010 16:52 GMT

#17

On April 07 2010 01:49 JodoYodo wrote:
Haha that season I gained 4 points off Ruby for having him on my anti. I think putting Skyhigh and Effort both on your anti-team is very high risk. I prefer to hedge.

My anti is looking like:
Jangbi - 6
Modesty - 3
Hoejja - 4

I think Jangbi is definitely worth less than 6 points. He's a lot less likely to play Ace match than Stork or even FBH.
Modesty is pretty bad, got some fluke wins and is a ZvZ sniper, which is my only fear that he'll snipe Calm or Effort or Jaedong in an ace match
Hoejja is the worst 4 pointer, will get KT points but otherwise I don't expect much from him.

i definitely like your anti team idea, but a better choice then modesty is jaehoon (3 points is a lot for a guy that SUCKS)

ndralcasid

United States524 Posts

April 06 2010 16:52 GMT

#18

I love Hoejja to death, but going through the list, he seems like the easiest AT pick.

I actually put Skyhigh on my main for my first draft because he's pretty much guaranteed to be played. Same with Hiya and Great.

Why is there so few 5 pointers this round??

I also noticed....Stars is ridiculously under-priced, IMO

On April 07 2010 01:52 Jackal03 wrote:

i definitely like your anti team idea, but a better choice then modesty is jaehoon (3 points is a lot for a guy that SUCKS)

I think Modesty is a better AT pick just because he competes with Calm and Hero for a spot on the roster, where as Jaehoon, although shitty, might very well be MBC's best Protoss and more likely to play