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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
April 06 2010 23:21 GMT
#61
On April 07 2010 08:20 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 07:35 Chairman Ray wrote:
On April 07 2010 07:32 Re-Play- wrote:
On April 07 2010 07:28 Chairman Ray wrote:
On April 07 2010 07:22 Re-Play- wrote:
On April 07 2010 07:06 Chairman Ray wrote:
Is it just me or is all in Woongjin Stars not such a bad idea?

Woongjin Stars is priced at 3, which is cheap considering that they came #3 in Winner's League

$7 - (Z)ZerO - Just as good as the other $7 players
$5 - (Z)Kwanro - Uprising, might even make it to become Woongjin's second ACE player
$5 - (P)free - Doing well lately
$3 - (P)GuemChi - Exploded in Winner's league with a 13-5 record. Jesus.
$1 - (T)SoulKey - The most underpriced player. After dominating Dream League and all killing STX in the quarter finals, this guy has shown both consistency and potential.
$1 - (T)MVP - The second best $1 next to (T)SoulKey. (T)MVP is good for $1, and also he's Woongjin's only Terran, so they have to send him out a lot.


but why soulkey its named Zerg in the list of FPL?


There's two people named soulkey. Typing soulkey links to the Terran one =/ Be sure to get the Zerg one.


there`s no soulkey Terran yo


Oh, I guess he's not up for pick since he's retired

Here's his page:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/401_SoulKey

Actually, that refers to http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/647_Neo.G_Soulkey

Could the player list/prices be put in the OP? It's an easier interface to look at when I'm just trying to eyeball prices and whatnot.


http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Stats.php?r=7&s=18&d=1
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-06 23:29:33
April 06 2010 23:26 GMT
#62
On April 07 2010 08:21 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 08:20 Qatol wrote:
On April 07 2010 07:35 Chairman Ray wrote:
On April 07 2010 07:32 Re-Play- wrote:
On April 07 2010 07:28 Chairman Ray wrote:
On April 07 2010 07:22 Re-Play- wrote:
On April 07 2010 07:06 Chairman Ray wrote:
Is it just me or is all in Woongjin Stars not such a bad idea?

Woongjin Stars is priced at 3, which is cheap considering that they came #3 in Winner's League

$7 - (Z)ZerO - Just as good as the other $7 players
$5 - (Z)Kwanro - Uprising, might even make it to become Woongjin's second ACE player
$5 - (P)free - Doing well lately
$3 - (P)GuemChi - Exploded in Winner's league with a 13-5 record. Jesus.
$1 - (T)SoulKey - The most underpriced player. After dominating Dream League and all killing STX in the quarter finals, this guy has shown both consistency and potential.
$1 - (T)MVP - The second best $1 next to (T)SoulKey. (T)MVP is good for $1, and also he's Woongjin's only Terran, so they have to send him out a lot.


but why soulkey its named Zerg in the list of FPL?


There's two people named soulkey. Typing soulkey links to the Terran one =/ Be sure to get the Zerg one.


there`s no soulkey Terran yo


Oh, I guess he's not up for pick since he's retired

Here's his page:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/401_SoulKey

Actually, that refers to http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/647_Neo.G_Soulkey

Could the player list/prices be put in the OP? It's an easier interface to look at when I'm just trying to eyeball prices and whatnot.


http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Stats.php?r=7&s=18&d=1

Never mind! I totally misinterpred this. Thanks!
Uff Da
plan3t
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada75 Posts
April 07 2010 00:39 GMT
#63
(Z)Jaedong (Captain) - I don't think that there is a way that Jaedong won't be played at every possible opportunity.
(Z)Hyuk - Hyuk's looking like a pretty good deal at 2 points. Liked his play in the Winners League but mostly picked him because he is so fun to watch play.
(T)Iris - I like Iris. His aggressive style makes Terran games a lot more fun to watch.
(P)Much - As an ACE fan I needed someone representing them on my team. Much looked like the best option.
(T)Sea - Sea is pretty reliable. If his team does win it will be one his back for sure.
(T)Firebathero - He was looking pretty hot in Winners Lea- who am I kidding, I just want to see him dance.

ANTI-PICKS
(Z)HoGiL - Sorry Hogil but you're competing with Yellow and Type-B for the zerg slot on SPARKYZ.
(Z)HyuN - Hyun just looked a bit overpriced to me. Hopefully he won't wreck me.
(P)Kal - Alright, maybe choosing Kal as an anti-pick was a mistake. Don't really like this guy, though.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
April 07 2010 01:07 GMT
#64
T1 Titans

Main Team
4 (T)Baby
3 (P)Best
3 (T)ForGG
3 (T)Hwasin
7 (P)Stork
oof, really stuck between stork and kal. i feel like stork will be played for more ace matches, though, so there we go
7 (Z)Zero (captain)
i wanted to put fantasy here, but i couldnt find anywhere to squeeze out that extra point
3 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
7 (Z)Effort
slumpslumpslump
3 (Z)Hogil
3 (P)Jaehoon
<3 jaehoon
boomer hands
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
April 07 2010 01:08 GMT
#65
On April 07 2010 03:55 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 03:19 Crunchums wrote:
I really hate the streak and streak break points. Why should the ordering of wins and losses affect scores? A lot of it just has to do with scheduling; if a player plays chump chump flash chump chump as opposed to chump x4 flash that's completely arbitrary.


If you choose Flash and 5 chumps for your team, you have nothing to worry about

I'm serious though; streak points are dumb and should be removed.
brood war for life, brood war forever
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-07 01:25:23
April 07 2010 01:24 GMT
#66
Read the OP about posting teams, and am adding an analysis for mine.
RideOnTheMagicSchoolBus!

Main Team
3 (Z)Action - For only 3 points I think Action is a massive bargain. If he plays anywhere near as good as he did last round then this should be well worth it.

4 (T)Baby - Baby has some promising results in the current OSL and MSL, and looks to only improve, especially since he is so damn young. I think he should be at 5 points personally.

3 (T)ForGG - ForGG wasn't exactly KTs new best Terran, but he played well and won a number of games. The majority of the games he lost were against other teams ACE players, so I still believe ForGG is worth at least 3 points.

7 (P)Kal (captain) - Although 7 points, Kal is pretty much STX's backbone(IMO), nonetheless their best Protoss player. He is solid in all 3 matchups, and will no doubt score a fair number of points because of it. He might not be one of the top 10 players or what have you in the end, but unless he comes along a slump I still see him as a viable pick.

6 (T)Sea - Sea & Light are MBC's powerhouses. With my other current picks I didn't have enough points to pick Light over Sea, but that's okay because I don't see Light doing significantly better than Sea.

4 (P)Violet - Violet was my last choice for a player(worth around 3-5 points anyhow), and IMO he was the best choice out of the players I had left to choose. I don't see him racking up all of KT's points, but I was content with picking him alongside my other choices.

3 Woongjin Stars - Besides Woongjin Stars being one of my favourite teams, they have some strong players and if they play their cards right they have a great chance against their opponents no matter what team they are. I'm trusting the Stars coaches with this choice.


Anti Team
4 (Z)Hoejja - Hoejja only seems to be able to play ZvP. Hopefully if Flash continues to dominate Hoejja won't get many chances to play and it will be free anti-team points to spend.

4 (Z)Killer - I'm a little iffy about this choice, but I didn't see anyone better to pick for their value with what I had left. Killer will likely get some points, but nothing major, as Jaedong is still Oz's best Zerg by far.

5 (Z)Roro - To be honest I see Killer doing better than Roro this round, and since he is worth 1 point more I see no reason to not choose him. Roro does alright sometimes, like Killer, but I don't see him bringing down my whole team.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 07 2010 01:26 GMT
#67
Wow, I've noticed I tend to hate and underestimate Zergs. Not just in this fantasy picks, but pretty much all the other ones do.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
April 07 2010 02:14 GMT
#68
beaSt

Main Team
3 (Z)Action good marco zerg
4 (T)Baby baby destroys jaedong ez so i get him
2 (Z)Hyuk zvz sniper HYUK
4 (P)Movie strong toss
4 (P)Violet stronger toss
7 (Z)Zero (captain) woojins ace zerg
6 KT Rolster cause they got flash

Anti Team
4 (Z)Hoejja ok zerg but he never wins
3 (P)Much sry much
6 (T)Really um needed 6 points and he dont play much i think;x
skyhighftw on iccup
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
April 07 2010 02:14 GMT
#69
Oh man, I got so excited and mad while I was scrolling down the list looking for Bisu. A part of me was screaming, yes omfg, Bisu is going to be so cheap if I haven't found him at the top, then a part of me raged thinking they had the nerve to put him for cheap.

Then I read the post below it and I chilled.

Anyways, I do not see how you can put the 3rd place winner's league, Stars, below the other teams who are doing worse in terms of WL standings and sometimes overall standings. I'm not complaining as it was an easy choice for me, but just curious.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
April 07 2010 02:47 GMT
#70
2nd Place is Fine Too

Main Team
2 (Z)Hydra
4 (T)Mind
4 (P)Movie
6 (T)Sea (captain)
7 (P)Stork
1 (T)Turn
6 KT Rolster

Anti Team
7 (Z)Effort
3 (Z)Great
3 (Z)Yarnc

Main Team: Hydra has been showing some potential lately. Mind, well, I'm just hoping, but I have no expectations really. Movie, Sea, and Stork seem to be good, solid candidates. And Turn because of the recent surge in Terrans and he has, in the past, been good. Think he might leech some starts from FBH. KT Rolster because...they're KT Rolster.

Anti Team: Effort is in a massive slump and with T>Z trending, Z's seem to be going to suffer. Great and Yarnc because both are Zerg and they both aren't really amazing.
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
April 07 2010 03:08 GMT
#71
泥門デビルバッツ

Main Team
1 (P)Daezang
12 (T)Flash
10 (Z)Jaedong (captain)
6 (T)Sea
0 (T)Xellos
1 (Z)Yellow
-1 Air Force ACE

Anti Team
3 (P)Best
3 (T)Firebathero
7 (P)Stork

My standard style, Flash+Jaedong+Other good player+ Ace guys and Airforce Ace. I did pretty well. If I picked Light last season, I would've done so well.

Anti team, Stork+Firebathero. I would've added Jangbi too but meh.

Suggestions?
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
April 07 2010 03:10 GMT
#72
Every season gets harder to pick an antiteam. I always seem to end up picking Mind and Roro though lol.
Onto the serious questions:
Stork or Zero? (both ace players but I'm leaning towards Zero).
Action or Great? (I'm leaning towards Great).
"Certain forms of popular music nowadays, namely rap and hip hop styles, are just irritating gangsters bragging about their illegal exploits and short-sighted lifestyles." - Shiverfish ~2009
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
April 07 2010 03:20 GMT
#73
On April 07 2010 04:50 Chairman Ray wrote:
Now that Hoejja is KTR's main Zerg, I don't think the Luxury chaos theory is gonna hold. We'll see though.

After hoejja's performance in wl finals i dont think he's going to be played any time soon
What do people think about MVP, he's been playing decently recently and is one point
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
April 07 2010 03:22 GMT
#74
On April 07 2010 12:10 ThunderGod wrote:
Every season gets harder to pick an antiteam. I always seem to end up picking Mind and Roro though lol.
Onto the serious questions:
Stork or Zero? (both ace players but I'm leaning towards Zero).
Action or Great? (I'm leaning towards Great).


Stork > Zero because Stork will be playing every single Ace match while WJN sometimes sends Free or Kwanro as their ace.

Great seems to be doing better at the very moment, but Action seems to be improving pretty fast. If you want to risk it, go Action.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
April 07 2010 03:24 GMT
#75
On April 07 2010 12:20 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2010 04:50 Chairman Ray wrote:
Now that Hoejja is KTR's main Zerg, I don't think the Luxury chaos theory is gonna hold. We'll see though.

After hoejja's performance in wl finals i dont think he's going to be played any time soon
What do people think about MVP, he's been playing decently recently and is one point


In Proleague, I think they need to send out one person of each race. For the past 2 rounds, Hoejja has been getting more lineup appearances and doing significantly better than Luxury.

MVP is definitely a good choice for $1 since WJN will be sending him out more.
ndralcasid
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States524 Posts
April 07 2010 03:34 GMT
#76
On April 07 2010 12:10 ThunderGod wrote:
Every season gets harder to pick an antiteam. I always seem to end up picking Mind and Roro though lol.
Onto the serious questions:
Stork or Zero? (both ace players but I'm leaning towards Zero).
Action or Great? (I'm leaning towards Great).


LOL, this is the 3rd time in a row that I got Roro on anti.

Stork because he's more likely to get Ace slots.
Great because while Action has to compete with Hyvaa with the Zerg spot, Great is by far Khan's best Zerg.
I aint crying over some daggone danishes
JChen
Profile Joined July 2009
United States48 Posts
April 07 2010 03:50 GMT
#77
GG

Main Team
4 (T)Baby
2 (P)Flying
5 (P)Free
3 (T)Hwasin
6 (T)Sea
7 (Z)Zero (captain)
3 Woongjin Stars

Anti Team
4 (Z)Hoejja
3 (Z)Hogil
6 (P)Jangbi


Based off of recent showings, i hope that Baby will continue showing his stronger play
Flying I think is decent for 2 points since hes probably the go to protoss on Estro right now, (haven't seen SangHo for a while now)
Free will always get alot of starts i suspect since hes slightly more consistent than Guemchi
Hwasin is the go to terran for STX..i suspect that his WL showings will put him above Frozen
Sea- Always solid IMO, probably will get a share of the ace matches if not most of them
Zero- I think hes a very dependable player, also one of the woonjin aces.

Anti:
Hoeeja and Hogil, i never see them perform very welll, honestly i think type-b is better than hogil, but idk...Hoejja's appearences will be spotty i suspect, what with KTflash obviously destroying, probably making way for some more interesting lineups..i hope
Im taking a gamble on Jangbi, hoping he does bad for intuitions sake.
ndralcasid
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States524 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-07 04:09:46
April 07 2010 04:03 GMT
#78
In a nutshell, I tried to pick players that are pretty much guaranteed to be played

Stars: For being one of the top teams, 3 points is a STEAL
Stork(captain): Not expecting to slump; Khan's Ace player
Best: Really a filler, but he seemed to be the best 3 pointer that will get playtime
Great: Khan's best Zerg.
Hiya: Guaranteed 100% to be sent out. IIRC, he played all of Oz's 11 games round 2
Hwasin: Both STX's best Terran AND he was dirt cheap
Skyhigh: Also expecting him to get sent out for all 11 games. Iris ain't gonna take his spot anytime soon.

Anti was really a mess.I went for Hoejja/Roro/Killer, but IMO, there's no perfect anti-team this season.

I tried to avoid picking ANYONE from KT on my main team. Flash was way too expensive and everyone else, it's essentially a crapshoot on who's gonna get a lineup spot.

This is my 3rd time with Roro on anti. He was actually good at sucking for a while during WL and then his small wins started adding up. Damn streak breaks

Of course, the schedule and Bisu's price may change a few things
I aint crying over some daggone danishes
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
April 07 2010 05:39 GMT
#79
flash is so fucking expensive lol.
Brood War loyalist
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-07 05:57:45
April 07 2010 05:45 GMT
#80
On April 07 2010 12:08 neobowman wrote:
泥門デビルバッツ

Main Team
1 (P)Daezang
12 (T)Flash
10 (Z)Jaedong (captain)
6 (T)Sea
0 (T)Xellos
1 (Z)Yellow
-1 Air Force ACE

Anti Team
3 (P)Best
3 (T)Firebathero
7 (P)Stork

My standard style, Flash+Jaedong+Other good player+ Ace guys and Airforce Ace. I did pretty well. If I picked Light last season, I would've done so well.

Anti team, Stork+Firebathero. I would've added Jangbi too but meh.

Suggestions?

What is your team name supposed to be?

"Something Gate Devil Bash?"

Also your method never works... Lets say you get the most optimal results from your top players, we'll say 50 points each, this only gives 150 points. Your filler players are probably gonna give you 10 points at most (being very generous here) and lets just assume ACE breaks even and gives you 0 points. So in total you get 160 points.

This is before we even factor in your antiteam. Your total without the antiteam is already lower than what people have gotten in the past fantasy proleagues.
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