• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:51
CEST 22:51
KST 05:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview4[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10
Community News
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !7Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? Tulbo's ASL S21 Ro8 Post-Review Why there arent any 256x256 pro maps? Do we have a pimpest plays list? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread UK Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1715 users

Everquest II going F2P

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
July 27 2010 20:07 GMT
#1
Continuing a trend started by D&D Online and Lord of the Rings Online, Sony Online Entertainment is launching a free-to-play version of EverQuest II, completely separate from the existing game. EverQuest II producer David Georgeson explains why.

Free-to-play fever is burning through the massively multiplayer online role-playing game industry like wildfire, and today it consumes its biggest target yet. Following the lead of Turbine's Dungeons and Dragons Online and Lord of the Rings Online, EverQuest II will soon have a free-to-play option, but it will be just that - an option.

Rather than convert the entire game to its new free-to-play model, SOE is splitting the game in two. There'll be the regular subscription-based service that players are used to, and a completely separate free-to-play game, giving players limited access to game features, with the option to pay for more levels, characters, quest slots, races, and experience point enhancing items.

According to game producer David Georgeson, it's those experience point enhancing items that are the reason for EverQuest II's new split personality.

"A lot of EverQuest II players didn't want the sort of game-enhancing items you find in a free-to-play marketplace in the game," he explains.

Many free-to-play games market items to players that make it easier to earn experience points, effectively bypassing the work other players have put into the game by applying cash to the problem. Rather than upsetting those players, SOE has decided to give players two options.

SOE is calling the new service EverQuest II Extended.

Why make the change now, after nearly six years in operation? Georgeson says the move is meant to introduce new players to a game that deserves their attention. "I think the world of this game. I think it's a really good game, and I just want people to rediscover and find out the kind of depth that it has, that other MMOs just can't touch."

It's also a matter of evolving to fit the needs of the consumer base, says Sony Online Entertainment president John Smedley, in the official press release.

"As the digital entertainment market evolves, SOE is focused on continued innovation in content delivery that best fit the needs of the growing consumer base. Our goal with Extended is to offer players an alternative to our current subscription program that gives them the option to choose a program that best fits their play style."

The service, which goes into alpha testing today for existing EverQuest II subscribers and is scheduled to launch "sometime after this year's SOE Fan Faire (August 5-8)," will allow players to access all of the EverQuest II content of the live game, sans the latest expansion, Sentinel's Fate.

There are some pretty severe limitations. Players with a free bronze membership to the game will only have access to four races, eight character classes, and will be capped at level 80. Spell tiers will be limited to adept level, legendary and fabled equipment will be off limits, and the player will only have two character slots to populate.

Other bronze restrictions include coin limitations (5 gold per level), no access to the game's broker system, and limits on active quests, the mail system, and chat channels.

Of course, money changes everything.

For a one-time $10 fee, the player can upgrade to Silver membership, which gives them access to an additional character slot, more gold per level, and access to the auction channel. "You won't be able to use the broker system," Georgeson explains, "But if you want to start up the trade tunnel from the original EverQuest, you can do that."

By paying $14.99 a month, the same price paid by subscribers to the main game, players of EverQuest II Extended will get full access to nearly everything the game has to offer, though they will still have to purchase additional races and levels.

You can see a full listing of the subscription tiers in the image at the bottom of this post.

Extended players will also have access to an extended cash marketplace, where they'll be able to purchase items and equipment to help them on their journey through Norrath. On launch only moderately powerful items and experience-enhancing gear will be available, though eventually that could extend to include the straight sale on in-game platinum or even pre-made characters.

With free-to-play gameplay and access to experience point enhancing items, is SOE afraid of a mass exodus of players from the main game once Extended launches? "If there is a mass exodus," says Georgeson, "That'll just prove that this is something the players wanted."

SOE has published an extended FAQ on the new service, which is available here: http://everquest2.com/free_to_play/extended_faq.


http://kotaku.com/5597645/everquest-ii-goes-free to play-in-a-different-way
[image loading]

PM me if anyone is interested in grouping.
Belegorm
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States330 Posts
July 27 2010 20:21 GMT
#2
Meh. I've seen other MMOs take this route, Anarchy Online and Ragnarok Online, for example, but this really turns me off. When I play an MMO, I expect to be able to see everything in the game without micro-transactions. So if I play a f2p, then I won't spend a dime. If I play a p2p, then I'm already paying.

Thing is that why would I want to play the (usually incredibly crappier) free version of a game that also has a paid, real version? Though for that matter, when they do do something like this, I stop wanting to play the game p2p too.
MUM GIVE ME SOME SCISSORS!!!
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
July 27 2010 20:25 GMT
#3
On July 28 2010 05:21 Belegorm wrote:
Meh. I've seen other MMOs take this route, Anarchy Online and Ragnarok Online, for example, but this really turns me off. When I play an MMO, I expect to be able to see everything in the game without micro-transactions. So if I play a f2p, then I won't spend a dime. If I play a p2p, then I'm already paying.

Thing is that why would I want to play the (usually incredibly crappier) free version of a game that also has a paid, real version? Though for that matter, when they do do something like this, I stop wanting to play the game p2p too.


Well seeing as I never can play an mmo for longer than 1-2 months it's perfect for me. But separation the f2p and p2p shall be an interesting route for this particular game, I'm interested if there is a net gain of pay subscribers in the next few months.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
July 27 2010 20:26 GMT
#4
Wait. Are they doing this now because no one plays Everquest 2 anymore??
:]
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
July 27 2010 20:31 GMT
#5
They are having an increased level cap for people with "platinum" over people who pay the recurring $15 fee with the "gold" membership? Pretty terrible.
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
July 27 2010 22:35 GMT
#6
On July 28 2010 05:31 QueueQueue wrote:
They are having an increased level cap for people with "platinum" over people who pay the recurring $15 fee with the "gold" membership? Pretty terrible.


You won't play on the same server as the pay players. So that doesn't even matter.
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
July 28 2010 00:01 GMT
#7
id play with you once beta goes
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
July 28 2010 02:45 GMT
#8
I like the idea but I don't like the fact that the games are virtually unplayable at the free level. Most people will probably see it and not even bother. There's free trials for any MMO out there, if I wanted to try it for free I'd be playing it. Not sure what it is they think players will find enticing in such a limited free version, that will compel them to start playing.
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
July 28 2010 03:00 GMT
#9
On July 28 2010 07:35 muse5187 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 05:31 QueueQueue wrote:
They are having an increased level cap for people with "platinum" over people who pay the recurring $15 fee with the "gold" membership? Pretty terrible.


You won't play on the same server as the pay players. So that doesn't even matter.



But doesn't experiencing the furthest, "end game" content generally require players to be the highest level? This means players going to the extent of paying the $15 a month still do not get all the content?
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
July 28 2010 03:00 GMT
#10
is templar a healer?
i dont think there are enough free classes TT
FindingPride
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1001 Posts
July 28 2010 03:02 GMT
#11
On July 28 2010 12:00 QueueQueue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 07:35 muse5187 wrote:
On July 28 2010 05:31 QueueQueue wrote:
They are having an increased level cap for people with "platinum" over people who pay the recurring $15 fee with the "gold" membership? Pretty terrible.


You won't play on the same server as the pay players. So that doesn't even matter.



But doesn't experiencing the furthest, "end game" content generally require players to be the highest level? This means players going to the extent of paying the $15 a month still do not get all the content?

you said it sir.
it seems kind of dumb
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
July 28 2010 04:12 GMT
#12
Why in god's name would anyone bother with this shit. Segregating the servers o.o, why would people want to subscribe to a shitty server if they still have to pay additional content, and get a worse server than vanilla?

This is by far the worst p2p -> f2p model I have ever seen.
stk01001
Profile Joined September 2007
United States786 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 22:42:06
July 28 2010 22:41 GMT
#13
IMO, this actually seems like a ploy for Sony to make more money disguised as them giving something away for "free".... basically they want to lure more people into the game, then deny them any high end features unless they pay just like everyone else. And EQ is not the type of game you really get into to play casually.. if your playing the game you are definitly going to want to be able to attain the highest level, get all your spells etc. I don't think anyone would be satisfied with a "maxed out" sub-par character to everyone else in any MMO. This actually seems worse to me then just having people pay right from the start.. there will never be a truly free MMORPG like WoW or EQ (immense 3d world) its just not feasible due to maintenance costs etc..

a.k.a reLapSe ---
Sokalo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States375 Posts
July 28 2010 23:06 GMT
#14
Not sure what it is they think players will find enticing in such a limited free version, that will compel them to start playing.


There's an illogical aversion many people seem to have about "paying" to play a game. A lot of these people will then buy two new games a month at $50-60 a pop.

This whole f2p scheme that's taking over is just targeting these people. It's also a great system to take advantage of suckers in general.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
July 28 2010 23:39 GMT
#15
So you can play on the old servers for $15 a month and have access to everything, or you can play on these new servers for $15 a month and have to pay for extra races and levels. What a deal! Free version sounds hopelessly crippled.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
July 29 2010 00:05 GMT
#16
I've heard f2p servers usually have a huge bot problem since it's no problem for anyone having 133475 bots (banning doesn't matter because you can create a new one for free)
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 10m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 842
JuggernautJason98
CosmosSc2 43
StarCraft: Brood War
Dewaltoss 90
firebathero 67
Hyun 39
NaDa 9
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Dota 2
XaKoH 552
monkeys_forever369
League of Legends
Doublelift216
Counter-Strike
fl0m1793
Fnx 1786
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu445
Other Games
gofns11166
tarik_tv2576
FrodaN2119
Liquid`RaSZi1652
shahzam510
mouzStarbuck357
KnowMe350
C9.Mang0275
ArmadaUGS113
ZombieGrub48
Trikslyr39
kaitlyn38
Mew2King31
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick3848
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hinosc 27
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 55
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2498
League of Legends
• imaqtpie1914
Other Games
• Shiphtur302
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 10m
The PiG Daily
2h 10m
Maru vs Rogue
TBD vs Classic
herO vs Solar
ByuN vs Solar
Replay Cast
3h 10m
CranKy Ducklings
13h 10m
RSL Revival
13h 10m
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
14h 10m
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
SC Evo League
16h 10m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
18h 10m
BSL
22h 10m
Artosis vs TerrOr
spx vs StRyKeR
Replay Cast
1d 3h
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 13h
RSL Revival
1d 13h
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
1d 14h
BSL
1d 22h
Dewalt vs DragOn
Aether vs Jimin
GSL
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs Leta
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Light vs Flash
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-07
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
Proleague 2026-05-08
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.