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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 05:55:00
December 08 2009 05:08 GMT
#1
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From 12:00 KST December 10th 2009 until ladder end (Final 72 hours) the following rules will be enforced:

1. A player cannot play games against an opponent who is 3 or more ranks higher or lower than his own rank

2. A player may only have a 3 game win/loss differential versus his opponent in a 24-hour period


Notes:
Rule 1 - Example: If you are B+, you may play B-, B, B+, A-, and A rank players, but you may not play a C+ or A+ player. Any violations will result in point penalties.

Rule 2 - Example: If you are playing the same player, 3-0, 4-1, 5-2 would be acceptable scores, but 4-0 or 5-1 would not be. Any violations will result in point penalties.




We believe 48 hours is adequate notice for all ladder participants, but if you are in contact with any players (or teams) that aim to qualify, please inform them of this new rule.

Thanks.





Also added to Announcements:

Tie Ladder Score:
If two players are tied for a tier qualification spot (Ladder Ranks #1, #12, #24, and #48), the two tied players will play a Bo3 and the winner gets the higher rank.
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Niggurath
Profile Joined December 2008
Chile103 Posts
December 08 2009 05:11 GMT
#2
Nice!!
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
December 08 2009 05:11 GMT
#3
Poor Kwark.

This is definitely going to mill some people out though. If not out of the top 48, at least out of the top 12 or 24
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
December 08 2009 05:12 GMT
#4
Isn't B- two ranks lower than B+... So you mean that a player can't play someone more than 2 ranks away from their own?
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
December 08 2009 05:13 GMT
#5
On December 08 2009 14:12 meeple wrote:
Isn't B- two ranks lower than B+... So you mean that a player can't play someone more than 2 ranks away from their own?

Correct, 2 ranks is fine, 3 ranks is illegal (changed the wording to make it clearer).
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wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 05:18:27
December 08 2009 05:15 GMT
#6
On December 08 2009 14:12 meeple wrote:
Isn't B- two ranks lower than B+... So you mean that a player can't play someone more than 2 ranks away from their own?

Same thing stated different ways you are saying >2 is illegal they are saying >=3 is illegal when only integers are involved they mean the same thing.

disclaimer/edit: I have no affiliation with the TSL I just thought that was kind of obvious.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 05:19:12
December 08 2009 05:19 GMT
#7
lol we should label this the kwark rule
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
December 08 2009 05:24 GMT
#8
Go go go!
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Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
December 08 2009 05:25 GMT
#9
Well, actually, to be fair, it's not really going to affect Kwark that much. I don't believe Kwark was playing any B- players when he was A-.

More like the Morrow rule <.<
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13918 Posts
December 08 2009 05:25 GMT
#10
On December 08 2009 14:19 redtooth wrote:
lol we should label this the kwark rule


i second it lol
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5459 Posts
December 08 2009 05:31 GMT
#11
On December 08 2009 14:25 Conquest101 wrote:
Well, actually, to be fair, it's not really going to affect Kwark that much. I don't believe Kwark was playing any B- players when he was A-.

More like the Morrow rule <.<
but he was playing the same guys 10+ times.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
December 08 2009 05:32 GMT
#12
i hope we see some good battles between TSL players in an effort to get +3 wins over someone else during those last 3 days. unfortunately the norm is a lot of stagnation and dodging at the end. but with the way the points at the cutoffs are so close, people could have the whole ladder come down to a few key games at the end :D
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
LorDo
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden485 Posts
December 08 2009 05:36 GMT
#13
On December 08 2009 14:25 Conquest101 wrote:
Well, actually, to be fair, it's not really going to affect Kwark that much. I don't believe Kwark was playing any B- players when he was A-.

More like the Morrow rule <.<


Yeah, rule being enforced ONLY during the last 72 hours tells us that they don't want anyone to be able to get those extra points needed for a higher rank "too easy". They have to beat better players.

However, this rule was not needed before because you gain so little points. He gained a total of about 100 points for doing that. Thats less than a game vs. equal opponents. To me he has proved he can beat "good" players too. Since only 100 out of 10500+ points is bashing noobs.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 08 2009 05:40 GMT
#14
No more D bashing for Morrow.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
December 08 2009 05:41 GMT
#15
Morrow and Kwark still have 48 hours to play 4128401280 games against D ranks :D
It felt like gravity.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 08 2009 05:44 GMT
#16
On December 08 2009 14:41 Straylight wrote:
Morrow and Kwark still have 48 hours to play 4128401280 games against D ranks :D


Foreigner Olympic Rank
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
December 08 2009 05:53 GMT
#17
Nony, are you ready to play? Haven't heard much from you playing lately, or practicing.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
December 08 2009 05:53 GMT
#18
Also added to announcements:
If two players are tied for a tier qualification spot (Ladder Ranks #1, #12, #24, and #48), the two tied players will play a Bo3 and the winner gets the higher rank.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
December 08 2009 06:12 GMT
#19
when is 12:00 KST December 10th 2009 in CET
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Future_sc
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States783 Posts
December 08 2009 06:14 GMT
#20
I do not like new ladder rules implemented in the middle of a season. Some people have had that unfair advantage for a couple weeks while others have not used it.
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