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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
May 29 2013 09:43 GMT
#161
"tvts where one is hellbat dropping and the other isnt amuse me. you think they'd be like hey maybe i should try that shit eventually." - Idra
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
May 29 2013 09:44 GMT
#162
On May 29 2013 18:43 pylonsalad wrote:
So who still believes hellbats should not be nerfed?


They are only ruining TvT atm, so I don't know what should be done.
Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
May 29 2013 09:44 GMT
#163
Seriously, the Hellbat-dropping has reached a level where it just isn`t interesting to watch any more. TvT literally has the potential to be chess on speed but atm it feels like the golden era of 4 gate PvP.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
May 29 2013 09:44 GMT
#164
I don't understand why people are so underprepared for constant Hellbat drops. >.>
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12027 Posts
May 29 2013 09:44 GMT
#165
On May 29 2013 18:44 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 18:43 pylonsalad wrote:
So who still believes hellbats should not be nerfed?


They are only ruining TvT atm, so I don't know what should be done.


They're not ruining TvT. It's just Marine Tank has always been weak against mech in itself, but even early game if Yoda had just not gone for the push which he didn't need to do, he would have had units at home.
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chisuri
Profile Joined January 2010
Vietnam789 Posts
May 29 2013 09:45 GMT
#166
KESPA KESPA KESPA.
2 wins vs eSF. Please carry on, boys.

User was temp banned for this post.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
May 29 2013 09:45 GMT
#167
On May 29 2013 18:43 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 18:43 pylonsalad wrote:
So who still believes hellbats should not be nerfed?


Me. Yoda had zero defense. A bio drop would do the same damage.


No it wouldn't have, there was at least one tank defending with some marines. A bio drop cannot beat that.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 29 2013 09:45 GMT
#168
On May 29 2013 18:43 jalstar wrote:
"tvts where one is hellbat dropping and the other isnt amuse me. you think they'd be like hey maybe i should try that shit eventually." - Idra

gotta love the Gracken
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
May 29 2013 09:45 GMT
#169
On May 29 2013 18:44 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 18:43 pylonsalad wrote:
So who still believes hellbats should not be nerfed?


They are only ruining TvT atm, so I don't know what should be done.

Make workers do bonus damage against light. Hell, why not. Works for mutalisks.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12027 Posts
May 29 2013 09:45 GMT
#170
To add on to what I just said, Fantasy is the terrorist terran. If you leave no defense at home when playing against Fantasy, you deserve to lose :p
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
May 29 2013 09:45 GMT
#171
On May 29 2013 18:44 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 18:43 pylonsalad wrote:
So who still believes hellbats should not be nerfed?


They are only ruining TvT atm, so I don't know what should be done.


The original blue flame hellions were ruining TvT mainly too back in the day, probably even more so than against the other races.

I'm not really up to date with the TvT meta, but are banshee openings still even a thing? Or useless now?
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Mangooze
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands301 Posts
May 29 2013 09:45 GMT
#172
Hehe that game, I have not played beta HotS at all, but I can only imagine 4 of those fitting in a medivac...
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
May 29 2013 09:46 GMT
#173
Did Wolf have a plastic surgery? He looks very different from 6 months ago.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
May 29 2013 09:46 GMT
#174
On May 29 2013 18:45 Blaec wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 18:43 Qikz wrote:
On May 29 2013 18:43 pylonsalad wrote:
So who still believes hellbats should not be nerfed?


Me. Yoda had zero defense. A bio drop would do the same damage.


No it wouldn't have, there was at least one tank defending with some marines. A bio drop cannot beat that.

2 medivacs full of marines with stim and combat shields?

Ye, that would do way more damage than 4 hellbats.
awesomeme
Profile Joined January 2013
Singapore15 Posts
May 29 2013 09:47 GMT
#175
Awesome FANTASY!!!
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
May 29 2013 09:47 GMT
#176
Those "sick" jokes, haha.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
May 29 2013 09:48 GMT
#177
(Z)Golden <Red City> (Z)Savage

00:00 - Golden spawns top left, Savage spawns top right
Zerg for Life
ShroudeD
Profile Joined August 2012
Greece1333 Posts
May 29 2013 09:48 GMT
#178
On May 29 2013 18:45 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 18:44 Blaec wrote:
On May 29 2013 18:43 pylonsalad wrote:
So who still believes hellbats should not be nerfed?


They are only ruining TvT atm, so I don't know what should be done.


The original blue flame hellions were ruining TvT mainly too back in the day, probably even more so than against the other races.

I'm not really up to date with the TvT meta, but are banshee openings still even a thing? Or useless now?

Banshees are not useless it's just that not many ppl use them.If you use them you might catch your opponent off guard though
Mvp,Fantasy 4ever
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
May 29 2013 09:48 GMT
#179
On May 29 2013 18:45 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 18:44 Blaec wrote:
On May 29 2013 18:43 pylonsalad wrote:
So who still believes hellbats should not be nerfed?


They are only ruining TvT atm, so I don't know what should be done.


The original blue flame hellions were ruining TvT mainly too back in the day, probably even more so than against the other races.

I'm not really up to date with the TvT meta, but are banshee openings still even a thing? Or useless now?

Mine into cloaked banshees are viable in tvt.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 29 2013 09:49 GMT
#180
haha, they're trying to do the sick city thing but it just doesn't sound right without Tasteless
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
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