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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
So i guess the situation is a) one of the town hits is a liar or b) someone got hit and didn't claim it, right? Either way you guys can just track or dt check whoever you think the liar is so i don't think this is that big of a problem. Can anyone clarify that BM and Artanis are in fact confirmed? | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
 and if hes confirmed to town that aint good news, he could probably sway the lynches so##unvote doublelynch er maybe i shouldnt do that? Oh well screw you guys!  | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
![[image loading]](http://fineartamerica.com/images-medium/futuristic-city-nikolay-kharchuk.jpg) TL Mafia XXX: Night 3 Start The town had struck gold, and by gold I mean red. bumatlarge was led up to the chopping block and he submitted quietly, saying that he would be back to terrorize the people some other day. Meanwhile, Ace decided that he was very sneaky and substituted in for the otherwise silent Jayme. Cheering, the town celebrated by drinking lots of apple juice and passing double lynch for Day 4. bumatlarge the Mafia Goon has been lynched. Jayme has been modkilled, but his alignment is not to be flipped because Ace is substituting in for him. It is now Night 3. You have 23 hours and 56 minutes to get your actions in to me. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7446 Posts
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VayeshMoru
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Chezinu
United States7446 Posts
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
Welcome Ace. Mafia is down to 2 KP, so GO town! | ||
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Chezinu
United States7446 Posts
On August 14 2010 11:08 rastaban wrote: Ahh the rich taste of mafia tears... Sorry bum :D Welcome Ace. Mafia is down to 2 KP, so GO town! how ironic | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On August 14 2010 01:14 rastaban wrote: Ok, not a surprise, and a lot of people have already suspected him, but I want to add some hard evidence to back up the suspicions + Show Spoiler + and hopefully convince Xelin and co. to not lynch someone last minute at random instead. Here I present my case against none other than Bumatlarge + Show Spoiler + Post from last game day 1: On July 18 2010 12:47 bumatlarge wrote: One could argue about the likeliness of certain outcomes, so I think using an RNG would be alot better Post from this game day 1 On August 06 2010 12:24 bumatlarge wrote: RNG is pure evil, agreed. Yeah lynch divinek! But I guess in his defense, he posts like that normally. Look at last game, it may seem like hes trying to create a persona as town, but I think you should judge him based the direction of his posts in general. He just comes off that way because he is a fa+ Show Spoiler + bulous opinion maker <3 But by all means, lets lynch him first if no inactives rear their ugly and obvious head. So when he was town he claims RNG is "alot better" This game he says "RNG is pure evil" Am I reading this wrong? I wanted to review more of his posts but I think this alone might be enough to lynch on. It doesn’t matter at this point if RNG is better or not, that isn't the point. When he is town he believes it is "alot better" and now one game later he says it is evil, that isn't slowly changing your mind that is a major flip! Since I reviewed all his posts last games I have a pretty good read on his town play, I wanted go through all his posts this game and see if there are more discrepancies. Lie 1 + Show Spoiler + On August 09 2010 10:01 bumatlarge wrote: I think BM defending can seem scummy in a certain light, but honestly I dont think he is scum from what Ive seen. His posts are fluffy, but I think he would be a bit more careful if he was red. Ill try to gather some things on him if im alive after the night. Hopefully im on the lesser end of the KP spectrum Never actually followed through, very typical scum play. (see last game where I claim I will switch my joke vote on citizen but then don’t since everyone up for lynch was town I wanted to leave my vote spread out. And this makes lie 2 + Show Spoiler + On August 09 2010 11:47 bumatlarge wrote: Oh wow Pyrr, I got the same exact PM from LSB, that PM WHORE! Also, LSB and I got talking before he died, and I guess since night is over and we hopefully have some blues communicating, I can safely post this. I think we may have found real reason LSB died. Sure he pushed for the plan but he wasn’t even part of it, and killing him would only legitimize it. But here we have a PM that says tried to implicate Divinek (a known townie now) and others as scum. The mafia knew who wasn’t scum so this is great for them to be able to post spreading suspicion around. + Show Spoiler + On August 10 2010 01:47 tree.hugger wrote: The difference between your play this game, and your play last game is really really suspicious. There's a massive FoS on you, and you're acting like a child, throwing suspicion around and trying to get back at the people who accused you. Plus, I'll use the same argument I used last time, if we lynch you, it confirms a lot of people. I guess you could say the same thing about BM, but I'm pretty sure BM is mafia, while you've looked nothing but suspicious from the first minute of the game. On August 10 2010 01:47 bumatlarge wrote: The fact that you play angry, jump to conclusions and generally are very unhelpful doesnt help either. @KF: BB can still be vanilla, as I think someone stated that people are told if they are waxed no matter their role. Also, can mafia refuse to RB? On August 10 2010 01:56 bumatlarge wrote: Dont throw the 'confirm' word around treehugger, you cant really confirm anyone without facts. And facts mean dead people and blue roles. Use 'towny likelyhood' and a 1-10 chart 5 being dead even uncertainty. For instance young is a 3 from what I can tell, and chez is a -10. So scummy its practically town lol... <3 chez On August 10 2010 02:04 tree.hugger wrote: If we waited for people to be 100% confirmed every game, we'd never get anything done. On August 10 2010 03:09 bumatlarge wrote: Just saying dont generalize everyoen who has disagreed with young as 'confirmed' if he is mafia. I mean everyone seems to be butting heads, I wouldnt put it past scum to do the same thing, especially with someone like young. Artanis, this is the only plausible plan for scum to put foolish as a reg mafia is if when a watcher and DT check, watcher would assume the DT is framer or foolish is red. As watcher I would push foolish, if not claim, because then watcher can get a confirmed DT, or confirmed framer. The watcher would then get priority med protection while foolish gets lynched OR framer still frames foolish even when hes scum, and he would get himself killed, while the framer would have to fake a active blue role the rest of the game. Both the framer and DT would be unknown to each other andif framer doesnt claim DT he would be lynched before the DT. If he does claim DT, watcher can confuse either by asking them to check each other or a random person. The framer would have to guess DT, while the DT checks normally regardless of who it is. Likelihood of 3 DTs is very small, so watcher would point at the liar, netting 2 scum and keeping the DT safe. I see no reason for foolish to not choose GF, as he only sacrifices himself for towny confusion if he isnt lynched immediately. If watcher, DT and framer all target foolish, then previous situation, assuming framer overrides GF.Other blues would have to not act, and multiple watchers or DTs would not hinder the situation. I think... it might be better to try with BB, because its assumed GF picks veteran? if foolish is a vet or GF, then the probability of BB being a more unique role without being GF increases the likelihood of his innocence. The more people who put themselves forward in situations that would require the GF role get away with, the better the chances that one of them are legitimate. Is this logic sound? My head hurts someone else think for me. Here we have a series of posts between tree.hugger and bumatlarge. Both are pushing for the YM lynch and saying BM is probably legit. Remember we still haven’t gotten that promised post analysis on why he is legit from bumatlarge. The interesting thing is the way he quickly calls out the line about being confirmed. When I was mafia last game we would specificly look for things like that in each other’s posts to call them on to create a fake sense of conflict. We would be in IRC saying things like, that is a good post but I will call you on such and such so make sure you are ready to defend it. + Show Spoiler + On August 12 2010 23:27 bumatlarge wrote: I cant really put my finger on the BM and Foolishness arguement, but I guess Im in no place to talk since i "didnt roleclaim" Im going to put my vote on xelin until he rectifies this. On August 13 2010 01:02 Hesmyrr wrote: Why? The framer is dead and no blue roles were sniped. On August 13 2010 01:09 bumatlarge wrote: Because he is screwing me over. I dont want to be default lynch because he doesnt remember who roleclaimed. Ill switch my vote to whoever he wants as soon as he fixes it. His is trying to get Xelin a confirmed townie lynched, and his reasoning is because he thinks his claim wasn’t handled right? Why not try and find scum instead. SUMMARY So this game we have 2 lies, missing content, all his big posts are just PM lists. Now let me mention for a moment what isn’t here. Content and Humor. The last game I played I was scum and tasked with analyzing bumatlarge (reference: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=131#2613). He was so pro-town that I couldn’t frame him even though I wanted to. In the end the closest I could get was to say he was 12% scum. Anything more and I felt it was too risky. This game it isn’t hard to notice the difference. How did someone go from such strong town play to now being caught in lies and heavy suspicion? As I went through his posts this game, they lacked a lot of his characteristic humor that he used last game. This seems like a minor thing, but they all point to a change in his playing method. Why, I believe it is because he is mafia this time around. It is for these reasons that I will be voting for Bumatlarge. | ||
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VayeshMoru
201 Posts
On August 14 2010 11:07 Ace wrote: sup @ Chezinu. I haven't been following this game closely so is there a post that sums up how bumatlarge ended up getting lynched? he was playing scummy as hell and got stuck on a unconfirmed/unclaimed list (he claims he claimed green regardless he was unproven). As such he got hung. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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KF91
Canada221 Posts
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Chezinu
United States7446 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On August 12 2010 20:16 Chezinu wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139517¤tpage=58#1143 Hear me town! Victory is Near! My bubble is tightly sealed! No one is going to pop my bubble! I'm going to pop it myself and become a beautiful butterfly! + Show Spoiler + waiting for someone to pm me back.. I need to know about another someone... | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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