Ego Mini Mafia - Page 70

But it's never that easy so I'm probably wrong on at least 1

just double-checked my role PM and it hasn't changed

I'm not even going to read his filter again (9 pages fuck that). He has seemed really townie to me all game. He wouldn't lynch me or WoS and he is probably the biggest reason Axle was lynched. Almost surely town

Pretty sure he is town. I just went through his filter again. I was thinking town on him at the very beginning of the day, and he continued to be active and I don't see any cause for concern. He was anti-axle early in the day and he jumped on the axle wagon without hesitation.

It was a bit odd that he never seemed to comment on the scib or WoS wagons but there's no scum motivation in that. I guess it's possible that he is scum but no reason to worry about it for now.

I haven't read any of his scum games, but his reasoning/mindset/methodology all seem very similar to the one game I played with him where he was town. I heard he sucks at scum and I'm not too worried that he is good enough at scum to fake it. Also, despite pushing me for most of the day, he helped make the Axle lynch happen.

His play seems very similar to his town meta (red team) and very different than his scum meta (LIX). He is very consistent in his idolozation of marv and eagerness to sheep marv. Also, he is very active.

If marv is town, I really can't imagine Oats would be brave enough to interact with marv the way he has, and I would also have a difficult time believing that marv is wrong about Oats since he's supposedly so good at reading Oats.

If marv is scum, then I guess Oats could be scum but even then I doubt it. His play just seems very consistent with town Oats and inconsistent with scum Oats. And how likely is a marv + Oats scumteam at this point anyways? Just based on math, it's quite doubtful.

This is a read I feel somewhat good about but doesn't seem to be shared by other people. So I'm going into a bit of detail.

First of all, think about who rayn is as a player. I don't know a lot about him, but I'm going to quote Palmar:


Nothing I have seen suggests that rayn is an especially sneaky/deceptive/clever player. This isn't an insult, but I just have no reason to believe he'd pull off any great stunts as scum.

So first of all, he gets a serious amount of town credit for immediately (within 1 minute) sheeping Palmar onto the Axle wagon. That's a pretty ballsy play as scum.

Also, I give him townie points for drawing so much damn attention to himself early in the game and being so active. I think everyone originally had a slight townread on him due to this.

Next up, he is pretty much obsessed with vets, especially Palmar & marv. IMO this is very townie. I'm not sure I can put this into words but I will try.

Rayn is a newer player. For newer players epecially, respected vets seem like these big important badasses that pretty much run the game.

So as town, I can 100% feel why he'd have such a drive to figure out their alignments and ask them as many questions as possible. But as mafia, I'd expect him to be much more scared of Palmar and marv and stay away from them much more. Hopefully I explained this OK. Anyway, posts like these seem very townie to me:
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Also this post feels quite townie. I don't know if rayn would be sneaky enough to think of saying something like this as scum. It also fits in with the whole obsession with vets thing.

I explained in the middle of the day why I was thinking town on him. Events since then have only made him look more townie.

The fact that he was Axle's primary scumspect points to him being town.
The fact that he hammered Axle points to him being town.
He has been active and his posts in general have felt fine.

Also, this post seems townie to me. I doubt whether WoS would be sneaky enough to fakeclaim VT and then remember to say this:


Maybe he should be higher on this list but tbh I've been ignoring some of the stuff surrounding him.
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ugh fucking 15 page filter and don't have time to look at it. Don't feel like talking about marv anyway.

I'm feeling that marv is more likely than not town. Not sure why exactly. Don't have any particularly great reasons but here goes:

Based on discussion earlier, 15 page filter is probably a bit of a towntell. Also, scum marv probably wouldn't have ended up looking bad for Axle lynch. Also, iamp and Palmar think he is town.

Maybe we should all just call him town for a couple days and look at him again if he hasn't been shot and we haven't already won.

I looked at tunkeg's filter for a bit today and have some mixed feelings.

things I don't like
In the early game, a few of his paragraphs were basically summaries and I didn't think it was necessary of him to post them.

I don't like how he is pretty invisible and has mostly said reasonable and agreeable I things.

I was surprised to see people giving him townie points for his case on WoS, because I really don't think it was that strong of a case. I already touched on this briefly. WoS finally defended himself against it and I agreed more with WoS's interpretation of events than Tunkeg's.

I also don't like how he mostly only stays in his own little world of pushing WoS. Same scumtell I used on Axle. He doesn't address many other big issues in the thread.

Finally, his post about giving WoS an out seemed to me like a thinly veiled attempt at giving himself an out. Looked to me like he wanted WoS to make a nice post so that he could have a reason to unvote WoS since it was no longer the 'cool wagon'. Nobody else pointed this out though so maybe I misinterpreted what he meant by 'giving WoS an out'.

I'm also not sure how I feel about him going from 'WoS surely scum' to 'damn guess I was wrong' just because WoS hammered. I could easily see a townie Tunkeg deciding that the hammer doesn't mean that WoS is town. Like, prplhz wasn't nearly as convinced as Tunkeg was that WoS is scum, but he still doubts that WoS is town. I feel like Tunkeg might have really wanted 'out' of his WoS read and finally had his opporutnity.

things I like
I like this post
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for exactly the same reason marv did. It would take serious guts to say this as scum, especially if WoS is in fact town.

I also like this post because it seems like he is just asking for marv/Palmar to disagree and call him stupid/scum
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Hmm now that I've typed this out it seems I have more and better reasons to think Tunkeg is scum. He's definitely someone I want to think more about and might be a good lynch tomorrow.

You are the Egocentricus Narcissisticus Maximus of Selflovia (Lightning Rod)! You can't handle not being the absolute center of attention, and nothing short of death will stop you from grabbing all the attention you can. Obviously, you are the smartest guy and best mafia player around and you love nothing more than rubbing that in to anybody you see. And even some people you don't see, just to make sure. Somehow, for some inexplicable reason, they don't enjoy basking in your supreme greatness as much as they should, and they will use any action on you, instead of their intended targets, in hopes to shut you up. But due to your gigantic ego, you'll double the effect of any power that was intended to be used on you originally!