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alepov
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kellymilkies
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jmbthirteen
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
Obviously we trust an official word from IEM staff -- Korea and China are neighbors, seems pretty reasonable that a Korean citizen might not need a VISA to go to China... Then at the airport we find out that this isn't the case. Not only do we have to spend about $500 to get him an emergency VISA and change his flight to the next day, but the flight is changed to today, the tournament starts today. We're told that his match starts at 11am and he should get to the venue and start playing immediately after arriving. They're expecting a 17 year old kid to get around that quickly in a foreign country T_____T | ||
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HolydaKing
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Seiber
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
What are you trying to accomplish with that post? make us hate ESL? Maybe IEM didn't knew that Rain is in US, and even if they knew, it's your job to double check possible VISA issues for your own players. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
It doesn't mean ESL is "killing esports" or whatever.. it just means they didn't behave like they usually do and should. Ît sucks for ESL, Fnatix+Xeris and especially Rain.. GL tho hope they wait for him, i expect that for messing this up. User was warned for this post | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10668 Posts
I mean, it's shitty that they said he doesn't need one, but ahm... Shouldn't the manager of Rain know these kind of things in the first place? I understand your venting but blaming IEM 100% is also not the way. If i would blame anyone then the players (or the teams) that qualified and decided not to go... This most probably wasn't easy for IEM too... | ||
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GTLAllDayEveryDay
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On September 30 2011 23:46 Xeris wrote: I'm really disappointed with the IEM management in this case. We were told, in an exact quote, when IEM asked us if Rain could replace DeMusliM, "hes Korean and won't need a VISA." Obviously we trust an official word from IEM staff -- Korea and China are neighbors, seems pretty reasonable that a Korean citizen might not need a VISA to go to China... Then at the airport we find out that this isn't the case. Not only do we have to spend about $500 to get him an emergency VISA and change his flight to the next day, but the flight is changed to today, the tournament starts today. Not only did IEM not apologize for giving us wrong information and screwing this trip for Rain, we're told that his match starts at 11am and he should get to the venue and start playing immediately after arriving. They're expecting a 17 year old kid to get around that quickly in a foreign country T_____T Seems more like your team's management is incompetent, whether or not a VISA is needed by Rain is something your management should've addressed in advance. "Korea and China are neighbors" part is extremely naive and borderline ignorant. When traveling to other countries you should always check if a VISA is required, this simple information is available online. Yes the IEM staff might have mistaken your players situation, but is the job of management not to just take peoples word on something like this, but to explore every avenue and cross check the information with other sources. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
If DH tells us that they will be covering the hotel for Valencia, for example, why would we second guess that? Especially with a big organization such as MLG, IEM, etc, we trust that they've been around and have built up enough credibility that when they say something it means they know it. Obviously, should have double checked which is partly my fault of course. It's a crappy situation though, feel bad for Rain mostly | ||
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Xeris
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GTLAllDayEveryDay
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On October 01 2011 00:14 shell wrote: Don't be dicks to Xeris because he does more for eSports then you bitches will ever do.. He's just frustrated and is venting. ESL fucked him there because he didn't have any time to do things right, the way it should be done! It doesn't mean ESL is "killing esports" or whatever.. it just means they didn't behave like they usually do and should. Ît sucks for ESL, Fnatix+Xeris and especially Rain.. GL tho hope they wait for him, i expect that for messing this up. "then you bitches will ever do" - temp ban anyone? No one is being a Dick to Xeris, it's just that time and time again his incompetence shows through, and he always has a convenient excuse/explanation for it. ESL didn't screw him over, his own ignorance towards the issue did. Furthermore, just because you do something for eSports, doesn't mean you get to abuse the position. No one is doing "work" for eSports because of devoted selflessness, it's because they are passionate about the industry and gaming in general. He's doing what he loves, he doesn't need any special treatment. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On October 01 2011 00:21 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote: "then you bitches will ever do" - temp ban anyone? No one is being a Dick to Xeris, it's just that time and time again his incompetence shows through, and he always has a convenient excuse/explanation for it. ESL didn't screw him over, his own ignorance towards the issue did. Furthermore, just because you do something for eSports, doesn't mean you get to abuse the position. No one is doing "work" for eSports because of devoted selflessness, it's because they are passionate about the industry and gaming in general. He's doing what he loves, he doesn't need any special treatment. What abuse or special treatment are you talking about? I just posted about a situation and expressed my disappointment, no need to read too much intoit | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
The fact that he was one of the guys responsible for giving 100k to SC2 players in prizes in a tournament like NASL? what is the problem? the lag? the casters? the players? Or maybe you don't like CGPL or you think fnatic is not being run properly? 100k man that's like all the MLG's vs 2 ! So yes you are being a bitch because if he is incompetent for some minor mistakes in a tournament then i guess i would love to have 10 more incompetent xeris out there creating tournaments, managing great teams like fnatic, more events, etc.. you are nothing but a whiner and a sorry ass that doesn't 1% of what the incompetent Xeris does... | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
peace and love everyone | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
<3 | ||
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Choboo
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Xeris
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Stipulation
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