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On July 30 2012 05:04 BronzeKnee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 05:02 aRyuujin wrote:On July 30 2012 05:01 BronzeKnee wrote:On July 30 2012 05:01 Noocta wrote:
You only need 3 sentry to chain one FF Chill. It is 5 Sentries to chain FF on a ramp. 5. 5 you have to be really good, 6 you can do easily while multitasking What? It is dependent on the energy on the Sentries. Thus with 5 when the first Sentry to throw down a FF has enough energy for another FF before the 5th FF expires on the ramp. And thus the second Sentry has enough energy after the 6th FF expire. Having a 6th sentry will just lead to energy pooling up.
What he means tho is that you have to time them really well when you have only 5, you're shafted if you throw down FFs too early. With 6 Sentries you're going to have a bigger buffer for screwups.
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On July 30 2012 05:05 Fig wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 05:03 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:On July 30 2012 05:02 Fig wrote:On July 30 2012 05:01 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:On July 30 2012 05:00 Grumbels wrote:
why can't pro players keep up forcefield on a ramp? *sigh* Yeh, that's what I wondered too... you can't constant FF a ramp with 4 sentries that each only have 1 FF.... But what prevented him from continuing to warp in those sentries and keep it up? Nothing at that point really. it takes 90 seconds in game to build up 50 energy. A FF lasts 15 seconds in game. Therefore, he would need 600 gas to do it, which he didn't have
Yeh well aye, I guess he maybe really didn't have enough gas then. If he just warped in the 2 sentries moments before Kas' troup arrived that should make sense, yeh.
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On July 30 2012 05:02 Purple Haze wrote:
Can someone tell me whether last year TL was flooded with posts about how some unknown Swedish scrub had just beaten a code S player like FruitDealer, proving Terran was OP but at least giving Nony an easy path to the quarter finals? At least we never heard of that Thorzain guy again...
Does this mean something ? O_O
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On July 30 2012 04:30 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 04:27 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Games today look really boring, I'm not liking the qualification system for TSL, maybe I'll just wait until Ro16 to watch. I have no idea how this could be tied to the qualifying system. If you're not looking forward to Naniwa playing then I don't know how you can watch Starcraft at all.
I'm not, he's going to roll his opponent.
On July 30 2012 04:28 elmizzt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 04:27 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Games today look really boring, I'm not liking the qualification system for TSL, maybe I'll just wait until Ro16 to watch. What don't you like about the TSL qualifier system?
I just think you get less good players with qualifications. I've always liked half qualifiers/half invitees.
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On July 30 2012 05:03 Kevan wrote:
The day that Twitch doesn't lag like fuck is the day that pigs fly and German potato salad tastes good. I'm looking forward to it even though that day may never come.
hahahaha so true about the german potato salad
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On July 30 2012 05:04 aTnClouD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 05:03 KalWarkov wrote:On July 30 2012 04:59 aTnClouD wrote:
What I would like to see from pro terrans against blink stalker openings is a sensor tower in their base so they can track stalkers movement and have units in position until they have medivacs and can kill protoss army or basetrade comfortably. i agree that a sensor tower would be useful, i dont think u should immediatly go for a sensor tower once u know blinkstalkerallin is coming. u need every single unit in the first place, i won so many games because ppl wasted too much money on turrents, upgrades or fast medivacs in those situations just by beating their army straight up in the end, a sensor tower might help the protoss more than the terran. In Kas' situation, after killing those 3 stalkers, a sensor tower wouldve been perfect though I've tested it, if you make a sensor tower right when you know 1 base blink stalker comes there's no way you lose unless you don't make marauders with concussive shells.
Thats super smart.
Dammit. You just killed that all in!
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On July 30 2012 05:05 elmizzt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 05:03 Kevan wrote:
The day that Twitch doesn't lag like fuck is the day that pigs fly and German potato salad tastes good. I'm looking forward to it even though that day may never come. been watching since the stream went up, and zero lag or hiccups. twitch is sending out the stream just fine, sounds like a problem on your end.
It is a well known problem all across Europe especially. Other streaming services are fine on my 100 mbit connection.
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On July 30 2012 05:02 Purple Haze wrote:
Can someone tell me whether last year TL was flooded with posts about how some unknown Swedish scrub had just beaten a code S player like FruitDealer, proving Terran was OP but at least giving Nony an easy path to the quarter finals? At least we never heard of that Thorzain guy again...
No, the balance whine was mostly directed at ZvP at the period of time. The ZvT whine was before that. And long after that, when Mvp started ghosting.
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On July 30 2012 05:04 aRyuujin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 05:02 Purple Haze wrote:
Can someone tell me whether last year TL was flooded with posts about how some unknown Swedish scrub had just beaten a code S player like FruitDealer, proving Terran was OP but at least giving Nony an easy path to the quarter finals? At least we never heard of that Thorzain guy again... ThorZain was a god at preparing. He made up builds that we hadn't really seen before vs Fruitdealer, it was pretty amazing. (super fast 3 cc on terminus, outmacroing a zerg) Plus, FD was already falling off, and there was a lot of controversy about lag.
This - Thorzain won by playing well, not by playing competently when both players played terribly. That said, if you look at the TSL3 finals, Thorzain did 1/1/1s and ghost builds back when both of those were imbalanced - people complained about that then, now people are complaining about broodlord infestor.
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On July 30 2012 05:06 Cele wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 05:03 Kevan wrote:
The day that Twitch doesn't lag like fuck is the day that pigs fly and German potato salad tastes good. I'm looking forward to it even though that day may never come. hahahaha so true about the german potato salad
What the fuck, my grandmas Potato salad is godlike!
The stuff you can buy in a bucket is fucking disgusting tho
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On July 30 2012 05:08 FliedLice wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 05:06 Cele wrote:On July 30 2012 05:03 Kevan wrote:
The day that Twitch doesn't lag like fuck is the day that pigs fly and German potato salad tastes good. I'm looking forward to it even though that day may never come. hahahaha so true about the german potato salad What the fuck, my grandmas Potato salad is godlike! The stuff you can buy in a bucket is fucking disgusting tho
Disgustingly delicious. Like McDonalds.
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On July 30 2012 05:06 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 05:05 Fig wrote:On July 30 2012 05:03 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:On July 30 2012 05:02 Fig wrote:On July 30 2012 05:01 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:On July 30 2012 05:00 Grumbels wrote:
why can't pro players keep up forcefield on a ramp? *sigh* Yeh, that's what I wondered too... you can't constant FF a ramp with 4 sentries that each only have 1 FF.... But what prevented him from continuing to warp in those sentries and keep it up? Nothing at that point really. it takes 90 seconds in game to build up 50 energy. A FF lasts 15 seconds in game. Therefore, he would need 600 gas to do it, which he didn't have Yeh well aye, I guess he maybe really didn't have enough gas then. If he just warped in the 2 sentries moments before Kas' troup arrived that should make sense, yeh.
I agree that he should have seen it coming though. Considering the only way he could possibly win that is if Kas does indeed go for the counter. It was really Kas playing great D, then just blundering but being way ahead already so it didn't matter
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Haha, what is it with german potato salad that makes it horrible then? 
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On July 30 2012 05:08 FliedLice wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 05:06 Cele wrote:On July 30 2012 05:03 Kevan wrote:
The day that Twitch doesn't lag like fuck is the day that pigs fly and German potato salad tastes good. I'm looking forward to it even though that day may never come. hahahaha so true about the german potato salad What the fuck, my grandmas Potato salad is godlike! The stuff you can buy in a bucket is fucking disgusting tho
Idk what bucket salad is but my great grandmothers potato salad she brought with her from Germany is pro tier.
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On July 30 2012 05:05 elmizzt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 05:03 Kevan wrote:
The day that Twitch doesn't lag like fuck is the day that pigs fly and German potato salad tastes good. I'm looking forward to it even though that day may never come. been watching since the stream went up, and zero lag or hiccups. twitch is sending out the stream just fine, sounds like a problem on your end.
When I started watching it lagged for a while. If it works for you doesn't mean anything unless they're on the same route, getting data from the same server. Most of the time it's not end user problem so stop saying it.
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On July 30 2012 05:07 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 05:05 elmizzt wrote:On July 30 2012 05:03 Kevan wrote:
The day that Twitch doesn't lag like fuck is the day that pigs fly and German potato salad tastes good. I'm looking forward to it even though that day may never come. been watching since the stream went up, and zero lag or hiccups. twitch is sending out the stream just fine, sounds like a problem on your end. It is a well known problem all across Europe especially. Other streaming services are fine on my 100 mbit connection.
Yup. Twitch also didn't build in that report issue function for one single guy's personal computer problems.
Plus, there isn't only source and end that make up the internet but a lot in between.
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On July 30 2012 05:09 Gosi wrote:Haha, what is it with german potato salad that makes it horrible then?
Everything. My nation is simply not destined to make potato salat i'm afraid 
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On July 30 2012 05:06 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 05:02 Purple Haze wrote:
Can someone tell me whether last year TL was flooded with posts about how some unknown Swedish scrub had just beaten a code S player like FruitDealer, proving Terran was OP but at least giving Nony an easy path to the quarter finals? At least we never heard of that Thorzain guy again... Does this mean something ? O_O
That just because someone isn't famous doesn't mean they're trash and can only win because of imbalance, and will obviously lose to a player you know more about in the next round. And all the people saying 'well if you think just playing like Stephano makes you good...', well, yeah, that would make you pretty damn good.
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On July 30 2012 05:04 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 05:01 BronzeKnee wrote:On July 30 2012 05:01 Noocta wrote:
You only need 3 sentry to chain one FF Chill. It is 5 Sentries to chain FF on a ramp. 5. its 6. with 5 you can do it for quite long, but there will be a point where u cant for a short time. (i guess) fraer simply didnt have enough gas, 1 sentry is 100 guys, a forcefield doesnt last as long as 100 gas from 1 base is being mined, not nearly
I just tested it again, and you are correct. If you begin with 5 with 50 energy each, you'll have ~48 energy on each after the first 5 have been spent.
I tested it along time ago, and I swear then 5 did it perfectly. I wonder if Blizzard ever adjusted the energy regeneration rate, or I started my test too late last time.
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