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Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
October 10 2010 21:45 GMT
#101
6 million from poker.... I would just keep playing poker and just play sc2 for fun.
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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
October 10 2010 21:52 GMT
#102
6 million playing poker is absolutely amazing, wow
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Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
October 10 2010 21:55 GMT
#103
On October 11 2010 06:45 Sanguinarius wrote:
6 million from poker.... I would just keep playing poker and just play sc2 for fun.


If I had 6 million dollars, I would just do whatever the fuck I want.
xlord 5:0
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
October 10 2010 23:05 GMT
#104
I hope he brings back the orange hair when he comes back.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-11 01:16:04
October 11 2010 01:15 GMT
#105
ya'll know he hacks with those sunglasses. maphack built into them things.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 11 2010 01:23 GMT
#106
On October 10 2010 10:37 Integra wrote:
Elky the official pimp of gaming. He is so fucking awesome that customs airport once stopped him because they thought he was a badass gangster since he was carrying an insane amount of money with him.

This is funny because it's actually true lol. I don't really care if Elky joins the scene, but at the moment I'm done with SC2. I wish him luck if he does decide to conform though haha
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
TellMeWhy
Profile Joined September 2010
United States39 Posts
October 11 2010 01:25 GMT
#107
On October 11 2010 10:15 jinorazi wrote:
ya'll know he hacks with those sunglasses. maphack built into them things.
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how are you talking about his sunglasses in his picture when it looks like he stuck his head in a bucket of V8 juice LOL
gerundium
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands786 Posts
October 11 2010 01:33 GMT
#108
about the poker: It's still gambling but it has a skill element large enough to make it a +EV gambling game if you play good enough. It's a skill game with luck involved / its a luck game with skill involved is a fruitless discussion because neither side will budge.

Think elky has his hands full raking in the money in poker and living the baller life, so i don't expect him to go pro in SC2 ever again and he confirms that in this interview. Its nice to see old school players reappear (kinda) though.
guitarizt
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1492 Posts
October 11 2010 08:30 GMT
#109
<3 elky plz come back
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Hemingway
PhoenixM1
Profile Joined January 2010
United States178 Posts
October 11 2010 08:36 GMT
#110
Oh yeah! Elky! I had so many of his reps saved on my computer for bw. I remember watching Elky play Smuft (I think thats his name) a bunch of times. Maybe Grrr will get his ass onto SC2 and revolutionize PvZ again.
=/
PhoenixM1
Profile Joined January 2010
United States178 Posts
October 11 2010 08:41 GMT
#111
On October 10 2010 21:09 Dantelew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2010 20:11 Fruscainte wrote:
On October 10 2010 20:05 Dantelew wrote:
On October 10 2010 18:22 some_pro wrote:
On October 10 2010 13:50 Borked wrote:
On October 10 2010 13:43 loving it wrote:
Can someone explain why alot of former progamers turn to poker?


cause you forfeit your education (for most progamers) so you don't have any special field. you either work your life from rock bottom or you go in a risky business like gambling.

and as a professional RTS player, you have counters, early-mid-late games, cheese, hidden tech, "mindgames", etc. strategies those can be applied to poker.


Poker is not gambling


Don't kid yourself, even the best pros and theorists admit that you're crazy if you can believe that poker is not gambling.


For random people, yes, it's at the very basis, gambling.

At pro level, I dont think you realize how much skill goes into it. Gambling implies that it's all luck that goes into it; further implying that randoms should always be winning tournaments and not the same people over and over. I may not be a pro, but I think I can safely say that Poker is more about reading your opponents emotions and facial expressions, figuring out potential chance of flops, managing money, than it is getting good hands and hoping to win.

I'm learning some basic poker math right now, that gives me probability. Let's say I got a Queen and a King of diamonds, and on the flop there is Jack of diamonds. I am learning to accurately figure out what my chances are, taking into the account of X for my opponents hands, for me getting a flush or a straight (or any mix of the two) on the next two cards. It may be something fun that I'm learning, it may be something at least at the very minimum that pros do. Poker is not gambling. Slots are gambling.


I know odds, i know equities, expected value, hand ranges, pot odds, etc. etc. etc.
I know how to play winning poker and yes I know how much dedication, skill, and discipline goes into it.
That being said, yes you obviously can win in the long run, I know this. It doesnt change the fact that its gambling, but as I said, there are two types of gambling, Postive and negative expected value. Pit games, such as blackjack, have a long term negative expected value, therefore unbeatable. Poker if you play properlty has a positive expected value, therefore if you consistantly make the correct decisions, you can win.

If you were to ask Phil Ivey, Doyle Brunson, hell, even ElkY, you would probably here them say that poker is still gambling.

Ill give you a tip though, you say Poker is about reading your opponents emotions and facial expressions? Don't even bother. The only thing you need is discipline, and bankroll management. Poker comes down to making the right decisions the majority of the time, not some "tell" you think you picked up.

Anyways thats the last im going to say about it because this thread isn't about that.


I agree with what you're saying, other than the blackjack part. Blackjack can be beaten, granted it depends a little bit on the rules of the house but with just basic strategy you can get it to about 50 percent. That says nothing for other "abilities" that could be useful.
=/
ArnaudF
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France993 Posts
October 19 2010 21:11 GMT
#112
The eOSL (french league with the best players in the country) just announced that Elky will play in the upcoming season. Amazing.

The original article for those who can read french : http://www.egg-one.com/Actualites/bertrand-qelkyq-grospellier-participe-a-leosl.html .
My heart aches with pain, When I see you I vomit, Die away from me
Hunch
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada336 Posts
October 19 2010 21:14 GMT
#113
LOL shit man Elky in GSL3 would be unfucking imaginable, love the guy for what he did in the past and even what he did in poker, would be soooo cool to see him come into SC2 as a pro
I have a Hunch.770
Bleb
Profile Joined August 2010
Croatia278 Posts
October 19 2010 21:22 GMT
#114
I love him both as sc and poker player
He actually was WPT (world poker tour) player of the year!
his performance in finals was mind blowing! Pure aggression... I wonder what's his sc2 play style : )
Khalleb
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1909 Posts
October 19 2010 21:26 GMT
#115
On October 20 2010 06:14 Hunch wrote:
LOL shit man Elky in GSL3 would be unfucking imaginable, love the guy for what he did in the past and even what he did in poker, would be soooo cool to see him come into SC2 as a pro


this will bring so many viewer if elky and giyom pass the prelim( i mean if elky and grrrr.. try)
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Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 19 2010 21:36 GMT
#116
Man, I wanna see Nal_rA <3 elky!
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
SwEEt[TearS]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 07:13:37
October 20 2010 07:13 GMT
#117
On October 20 2010 06:11 ArnaudF wrote:
The eOSL (french league with the best players in the country) just announced that Elky will play in the upcoming season. Amazing.

The original article for those who can read french : http://www.egg-one.com/Actualites/bertrand-qelkyq-grospellier-participe-a-leosl.html .


translated the interview, you can find it here

enjoy
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Toads
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1795 Posts
October 20 2010 17:05 GMT
#118
Maybe a little offtopic but I think this is possible pokerstar will start a team for sc2 with Elky in it, What TL think about that
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 20 2010 17:12 GMT
#119
On October 10 2010 23:42 Touch wrote:
6 Million dollars...I think he can shell out a little for a Korean copy of SC2


he needs a Korean social to get a copy of the Korean version.
Not as easy as people may think
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
MinoMino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1103 Posts
October 20 2010 17:30 GMT
#120
Haha, I love how the old schoolers are considering or trying to get back into it. It's great, I love it.
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