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Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
November 06 2008 20:02 GMT
#1161
### I vote to lynch Ace

we need a volunteer for the lynch list, to split votes into 2 list to make it easier for dts.
Teamliquidian townie
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
November 06 2008 20:10 GMT
#1162
On November 07 2008 03:55 XCetron wrote:
Well, look at it this way.
1: If we lynch someone we are SURE of, vigil has to hit someone we're not 100% sure of so thats a risk, if they dont then thats a night waste and less townies the next day. One thing to note that if the vigils are gonna be killing random people, those people could be protected by paramedics and we don't know who is who so that could be a waste of Vigil AND paramedics on the same night.
2: If we lynch someone we aren't sure of, that's also a risk just like we lynched Folca. But at night Vigil can kill the 100% mafia and since he is 100%, no one is gonna protect him.

or we can somehow find like 2 more 100% mafias, but I don't think thats gonna happen before the second night.


Do you really think medics are going to protect someone like decaf

you can pretty much guarantee that anyone openly suspected by the town wont be protected by medics, so its a non-issue. The key thing is to be certain we kill ace
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
November 06 2008 20:11 GMT
#1163
I vote to lynch Ace

no doubt
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-06 20:15:48
November 06 2008 20:12 GMT
#1164
but Ace will be dead for sure, while we should lynch someone else.


Look at it this way, we're not sure about decaf but STRONGLY suspect him, so we should find good reasons and then lynch him.
Ace will be dead by 2nd night for sure, so why not just wait until then.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
November 06 2008 20:25 GMT
#1165
As for now I will abstain from the vote. Nothing has changed considering decaf and Ace knew he was going to die soon - him defending decaf actually means decaf is more likely to be innocent. FakeSteve is acting weird tho, but he did that in game 1 as well.
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-06 20:40:09
November 06 2008 20:39 GMT
#1166
I think we should take care of ace the sooner we can because we can't take the chances of having 0 vigi going after him.

Since the mafia seems to target the townies that are posting the most, if you are posting a lot and you are a vigi you should go after someone tonight before we waste 2 vigi kills
(remember that 1 vigi kill used on a townie isnt that much of a waste since at least we will know he was innocent and we wont waste a day's lynch on him and you might also get a mafia which is good)

#I vote to lynch ace
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XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
November 06 2008 20:42 GMT
#1167
No way, if you're a vigil, go kill ace since if the other ones kill him too at least you get a refund. Lynching Ace now and the vigils are blind at night and what if they kill someone important, THEN we'll lose someone important + clues for mafia to go after vigils.
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
November 06 2008 20:50 GMT
#1168
On November 07 2008 05:42 XCetron wrote:
No way, if you're a vigil, go kill ace since if the other ones kill him too at least you get a refund. Lynching Ace now and the vigils are blind at night and what if they kill someone important, THEN we'll lose someone important + clues for mafia to go after vigils.

Ok let me explain the situation to you

for exemple if we kill *insert a name here* for today's lynch and he turns green, we gain totally nothing. and vigi would be oblige to get ace at night so we won't be able to kill any other possible mafia or known mafia. So that means we will lose another day just because of ace toying with us.

If we kill ace now , Vigi wont be oblige to kill anyone tonight, so that means no clues for the mafia. If we find anything on another player after the days post, vigi would still be able to go on that player.

Also lets be honest, this set of clues is hard to analyse, so why not just kill ace as soon as we can and have a 99.9% chances of getting a mafia.
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Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
November 06 2008 20:50 GMT
#1169
please mandalor, dont abstain from voting. If you must vote for me but we really need to have townies on voting list to check upon them.

im suggesting this list for voting patters, since i think every townie wants ace dead
+ Show Spoiler [Vote for Ace] +

1. imDerek
2. fusionsdf
3. Jimtudor
4. decafchicken
5. Camlito
6. XCetron
7. BloodyC0bbler
8. mikeymoo
9. MTF
10. clazziquai
11. wurm
12. Caller
13. Chezinu
14. nemY
15. xDark.Carnivalx
16. Empyrean
17. fanatacist
18. RtS)Night[Mare
19. araav
20. JeeJee
21. SoleSteeler
22. aZnvaLiaNce
23. ~OpZ~
24. bumatlarge
25. Mynock
26. iNfuNdiBuLuM
27. Ace
28. MidnightGladius
29. Bockit


+ Show Spoiler [Vote for suspect #2] +
30. Folca (Detective)
31. Alventenie
32. goldenkrnboi
33. Yogurt
34. Scorch
35. ShadowDrgn
36. ulszz
37. KH1031
38. Amber[LighT]
39. Fishball
40. Falcynn
41. Artanis[Xp]
42. ZBiR
43. Plexa
44. KF91
45. FakeSteve[TPR]
46. Lenwe
47. HeRoS)Pink
48. Mandalor
49. [GiTM]-Ace
50. G.s)NarutO
Teamliquidian townie
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
November 06 2008 20:56 GMT
#1170
nightmare, we already tried that and it didnt worked well, also DT's list wont be released before they died if we do what mandalor said earlier so its useless, it would be better if dt's check the list of poeple who arent voting for the top 2-3 suspects (they might be 2-3 only) more easy to find the mafia or it gives us 3 innocent townies , its better than having 5 mafia on 1 side and 5 on the other, what would we have gained from that?
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Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
November 06 2008 20:57 GMT
#1171
Well and who's suspect #2?
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-06 21:01:51
November 06 2008 20:57 GMT
#1172
On November 07 2008 05:42 XCetron wrote:
No way, if you're a vigil, go kill ace since if the other ones kill him too at least you get a refund. Lynching Ace now and the vigils are blind at night and what if they kill someone important, THEN we'll lose someone important + clues for mafia to go after vigils.


why is this so hard for people to grasp?

whether you lynch ace or not, vigis will leave clues behind
whether you lynch ace or not, you might kill someone important

how is lynching a blue and vigi'ing ace any better than lynching ace and vigi'ing a blue?

spoiler: its not, except if you lynch ace, and accidentally vigi a list of suspects, there is a chance that some of those hits will miss and you wont kill that person

WHICH IS WHY IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE NOT TO LYNCH ACE

you people arguing against it have no argument at all, you just aren't looking closely enough at the possibilities.

EDIT: Nightmares list lynches ace so I'm in favor of it. We have to deal with the DTs all list checking the same list, but DTs can do this a limitless amount of times, so its not that big deal. Another problem is how the DT's alert the town (I've tried to increase posting activity of the town so that DTs can come in and say I suspect MAFIA and we can go back after they die and follow their lead.

Unfortunately in that case, mafia will catch on pretty quickly to who the DTs are.

I still am strongly aggainst the mandalor plan, because DTs PMing random people their role is risky as hell when weve already lost one DT
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
November 06 2008 21:01 GMT
#1173
heroes)pink. DT's abilities include checking voting lists, not abstain list so everyone in the abstain list is away from DT's detection.

I propose decafchicken as suspect #2, because of the first day.

If anyone has a better arrangement of the voting list, feel free to post it
Teamliquidian townie
HeRoS)Pink
Profile Joined July 2005
Canada336 Posts
November 06 2008 21:05 GMT
#1174
I never said anything about the abstain list , there should not be a reason good enough to abstain, everyone should vote for who they think is mafia not, *i dont know what to think about this, I'm gonna abstain from voting* , its not helping the town at all. What i meant is check the smaller list at the end of of the vote count, try to find a townies and tell him everything you found, innocent townies or mafia and that would be much more helpful for the town
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-06 21:10:39
November 06 2008 21:10 GMT
#1175
I do agree with pink about unbalancing the lists though to try and concentrate mafia.

maybe add another 5 voters to the ace list nightmare

that way if there are 5 mafia in the second list there will be a 5/15 mafia chance for that list, and 4/35

that polarization gives us more concrete odds to judge off of

if it was half and half, it would be say 5/25 and 4/25
which doesnt help us narrow down as much
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 06 2008 21:14 GMT
#1176
# I vote to lynch Ace
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5470 Posts
November 06 2008 21:35 GMT
#1177
I vote to lynch Ace
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7468 Posts
November 06 2008 21:40 GMT
#1178
I vote aZnvaLiaNce

hehe
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Night[Mare
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Mexico4793 Posts
November 06 2008 21:42 GMT
#1179
+ Show Spoiler [Vote for Ace] +

1. imDerek
2. fusionsdf
3. Jimtudor
4. decafchicken
5. Camlito
6. XCetron
7. BloodyC0bbler
8. mikeymoo
9. MTF
10. clazziquai

11. wurm
12. Caller
13. Chezinu
14. nemY
15. xDark.Carnivalx
16. Empyrean
17. fanatacist
18. RtS)Night[Mare
19. araav
20. JeeJee
21. SoleSteeler
22. aZnvaLiaNce
23. ~OpZ~
24. bumatlarge
25. Mynock
26. iNfuNdiBuLuM
27. Ace
28. MidnightGladius
29. Bockit
30. Folca (Detective)
31. Alventenie
32. goldenkrnboi
33. Yogurt
34. Scorch
35. ShadowDrgn
36. ulszz
37. KH1031
38. Amber[LighT]
39. Fishball

+ Show Spoiler [Vote for decaf] +

40. Falcynn
41. Artanis[Xp]
42. ZBiR
43. Plexa
44. KF91
45. FakeSteve[TPR]
46. Lenwe
47. HeRoS)Pink
48. Mandalor
49. [GiTM]-Ace
50. G.s)NarutO


this solution looks better to you?
Teamliquidian townie
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
November 06 2008 21:47 GMT
#1180
Well, my vote was already cast as soon as Folca turned up blue, even though I was hoping to pin someone strongly with the clues today.

I vote to lynch Ace.
Think. :)
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