EPTIn vayesh's own way, though, he isn't as bad, because at least vayesh doesn't clothe his dissembling in the garments of truth.
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Wade Fell
United States501 Posts
In vayesh's own way, though, he isn't as bad, because at least vayesh doesn't clothe his dissembling in the garments of truth. | ||
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Wade Fell
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On February 27 2013 09:21 geript wrote: Prome I have more null to null minus as it feels more like he's intentionally trying to lynch himself. Right now I'm leaning more towards RO as all his posts read to me more towards general disinterest to trying to do anything. My problem is that I'm having trouble placing the underlying emotion so that I could really place the disinterest in perspective. geript I want you to think about the logic of a disinterested self-lynching martyr as being someone you wouldn't lynch and think about where following this policy will lead you | ||
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VayeshMoru
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VayeshMoru
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On February 27 2013 09:21 Wade Fell wrote: geript I want you to think about the logic of a disinterested self-lynching martyr as being someone you wouldn't lynch and think about where following this policy will lead you One who helps not but his own interests and not those of the greater good must not be a representative of the greater good. A man who has accepted his fate as he has cannot be a man of innocence. | ||
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
On February 27 2013 09:21 geript wrote: Prome I have more null to null minus as it feels more like he's intentionally trying to lynch himself. Right now I'm leaning more towards RO as all his posts read to me more towards general disinterest to trying to do anything. My problem is that I'm having trouble placing the underlying emotion so that I could really place the disinterest in perspective. You have a habit of not replying to all questions directed your way. & not quoting the questions.. makes it hard to assess your filter.. I would like to assume this behaviour is not intentional.. even phone posting its not hard to click "quote" http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294¤tpage=58#1156 For the question you chose not to address (for whatever reason) | ||
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VayeshMoru
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On February 27 2013 09:24 MilkSuckler wrote: You have a habit of not replying to all questions directed your way. & not quoting the questions.. makes it hard to assess your filter.. I would like to assume this behaviour is not intentional.. even phone posting its not hard to click "quote" http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=399294¤tpage=58#1156 For the question you chose not to address (for whatever reason) the ripped man is a man of the darkness. His serpentine ways are merely a habit of his nature | ||
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geript
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
On February 27 2013 09:25 geript wrote: Also, regarding the pardoner role and Dr. my concern stems from the fact that it feels as if he was feeling out whether or not the plan was to remove the pardoner as to see whether or not it's safe to 'run' for it. I just find that fact that it appears that he's more interested in pardoner than mayor concerning as that role is more powerful in scum hands. All I am reading is conjecture. Can you please outline the post in question from Dr.H and rationalise why it indicates he is running for pardoner - specifically? Theres too many loose associations/assumptions being put forth as contributions in this town. Its time people starting providing more reason behind the contribution. This will be a good start. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On February 27 2013 09:21 Wade Fell wrote: geript I want you to think about the logic of a disinterested self-lynching martyr as being someone you wouldn't lynch and think about where following this policy will lead you The difference I'm seeing between RO and Prome is that Prome has an underlying agenda; I don't see Prome as being disinterested. | ||
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
Promethelax is still my top scum read and I will be voting for a mayor that wants to kill him. Jungle Jorge and ObviousOne, in that order, are next on my scum list. I think we're placing a little too much trust in DoctorHelvetica. It seems like some people are treating him as nearly confirmed town, and frankly he's not even close to that in my book. Moreover, I'm afraid that should DrH get either of the elected roles, his perception as confirmed town will only be furthered, without him doing anything more pro-town. Most of his cred has come from telling people they aren't scumhunting enough and how great scumhunting is, and while these things are pro-town, its not something that's hard to fake. On top of that, the only contribution he's made on the scumhunting front is to really amplify the pressure on Prome. While again, this is great, the fact that he seems to be distancing himself from it slightly in this post + Show Spoiler + On February 27 2013 04:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Weird that you chose to respond to that specifically. Maybe not, maybe I'm being paranoid. And yes, I'm still pushing Prome for the day. He basically martyred so he should die. I'm working from 1-10 PST tonight so unfortunately I'm not gonna be able to be here to push him. Since all discussion is built on this foundation of lynching Prome, it's the best outcome for us right now. At least for Day 1. I would never say to lynch for information, I absolutely believe he is scum but there is no sense in acting on hunches and getting distracted. Don't fuck it up guys keep focused on the goal of finding scum. Everything else comes second. I think it's likely that DrH is town, but lets make him prove that to us before we show him so much trust. Hopefully, we've gotten it right with Prome, in which case DrH will be deserving of the town cred he seems to currently have. With the this in mind, I'm going to vote for someone who is going lynch Prome, but whose election I think will not stunt discussion and critique of the mayor himself. ##Vote: VisceraEyes | ||
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geript
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On February 27 2013 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: What if I just ran for mayor? I don't like blqzinghand and don't trust him to not change his mind. If you wanna vote me in go ahead, scum will kill me anyway Can you really say that this is an actually attempt to try and move the mayor role from VE? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
On February 27 2013 09:35 geript wrote: Can you really say that this is an actually attempt to try and move the mayor role from VE? I think numerous members said they would vote for Dr.H as mayor. I dont see how you can assume with certainty this is a pledge to run for pardoner? Further, I dont like how you answer the question, by throwing a WIFOM question. In my experience, scum tend to take this approach, because it avoids taking a stance and gives off the impression of making a contribution. Guess what, I nailed prome for this type of behaviour, in my behavioral case.... Care to indulge me further? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
I think we're placing a little too much trust in DoctorHelvetica. It seems like some people are treating him as nearly confirmed town, and frankly he's not even close to that in my book. Moreover, I'm afraid that should DrH get either of the elected roles, his perception as confirmed town will only be furthered, without him doing anything more pro-town. Most of his cred has come from telling people they aren't scumhunting enough and how great scumhunting is, and while these things are pro-town, its not something that's hard to fake. On top of that, the only contribution he's made on the scumhunting front is to really amplify the pressure on Prome. While again, this is great, the fact that he seems to be distancing himself from it slightly in this post [spoiler][QUOTE]On February 27 2013 04:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote: [QUOTE]On February 27 2013 04:11 glurio wrote: I think vayesh does make sense in what he posts. Yeah hes pretty much just prodding around but thats kinda what you have to do in the beginning. And he has found good points imo. [/QUOTE] Can you please give me your read on Wade Fell. | ||
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MilkSuckler
Swaziland597 Posts
TestSubject893 Can i please have your Wade Fell read (just town, null, scum) will suffice. | ||
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JungleJorge
Uganda104 Posts
If you believe it is a null tell and I have reached the correct conclusion, by your own standards, what exactly is the problem here? Wouldn't you be better off taking in the information in regards to the reactions of many players, including the one set to be lynched, and ultimately have a better picture of the situation prior to the lynch so you could make a more informed decision and even after if we end up lynching him? If you believe it produced no meaningful content you can safely ignore it. It's funny how you accuse me of being anti-town when I'm trying to produce information by my own means, yet you both share my conclusion. Also how exactly my withholding information for some amount of time to observe the reactions to my post damages the town in any regard? I've said I'd share the concerns I had with prome's lynch and I did. As it stands right now I believe the best lynch is prome and I'd be foolish to try to persuade town that The Macho Man is a better lynch, if even I don't share that point of view. Yes I do have problems with TMM, but I'll discuss those when the time is appropriate. It's a common mistake by many players to say every single thought that comes to their minds, instead of keeping the focus on what needs to be done. Most of you so far seem to believe I'm some sort of idiot who ought to be dismissed. It's actually a barrier that I'm trying to overcome by making long quality over explanatory posts. I assure you I'm pretty good at this game, you would be surprised to know who you are dealing with. I assure you that if I had my name attached to my posts I would need to right a third as much and would have three times the influence. | ||
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Wade Fell
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Wade Fell
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just share your thoughts. they're terrible but just share all of them god | ||
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