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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 04:35:37
August 02 2010 04:35 GMT
#81
On August 02 2010 13:23 Warcloud wrote:
Idra, what would you change about Terran? It seems like the problem you describe goes deeper than the numbers and has more to do with the versatility of Terran. So short of changing the meta-game altogether, what changes can you do to Terran that would make it more balanced?

bring back the reaper/barracks/bunker build time increases and remove tank's smart firing.

and roaches should probably be 1.5 supply
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
August 02 2010 04:35 GMT
#82
games between qxc and silver are fairly close but yeah silver probably still have no skill and made it there cuz he's terran

oh wait, isn't qxc terran too?
HuK
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1591 Posts
August 02 2010 04:35 GMT
#83
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
ProgamerLive like a God or die like a Slave 11:11
Sliver
Profile Joined April 2010
United States402 Posts
August 02 2010 04:37 GMT
#84
IdrA is getting mad, but he does (and has had) fair points on Terran and balance issues for awhile.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
August 02 2010 04:40 GMT
#85
On August 02 2010 13:29 Warcloud wrote:
Fair enough. The question still stands except in Zerg form.

You can read a little here: http://forsti-stream.de/idra-interview
Banelings are too cute to blow up
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
August 02 2010 04:46 GMT
#86
On August 02 2010 13:35 Fayth wrote:
games between qxc and silver are fairly close but yeah silver probably still have no skill and made it there cuz he's terran

oh wait, isn't qxc terran too?


So what does Idra think about qxc's skills then?
Iggnite
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada288 Posts
August 02 2010 04:49 GMT
#87
GODSPEED IDRA, GODSPEED. You speak the truth.
All about the big plays
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
August 02 2010 04:49 GMT
#88
On August 02 2010 13:33 Midj wrote:
Does it bug anyone else that PureMiss calls multiple barracks 'barrackses'.


he also doesnt know how to pronounce the singular

bare-axe is how he says it. i've become used to it but it'd be nice if he just switched to the actual pronunciation!
:O
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 04:53:56
August 02 2010 04:49 GMT
#89
On August 02 2010 13:33 Midj wrote:
Does it bug anyone else that PureMiss calls multiple barracks 'barrackses'.


It makes me think of a bear with an axe ... ultimate killing machine.

[image loading]

and also

Honestly if you have under 10 post you probably shouldn't be trashing on IdrA he is good he just won kotb, he has a valid point although i am not sure it was delivered in the proper manner.
JinHit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2 Posts
August 02 2010 04:50 GMT
#90
Idra. I truely believe if you want this game to be balanced, you must play terran and win 100% of your games. It seems to me you think its the most powerful race of them all, you should be able to pull it off.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
August 02 2010 04:51 GMT
#91
On August 02 2010 13:46 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2010 13:35 Fayth wrote:
games between qxc and silver are fairly close but yeah silver probably still have no skill and made it there cuz he's terran

oh wait, isn't qxc terran too?


So what does Idra think about qxc's skills then?

he prob suck, like everyone else on earth except himself
xav
Profile Joined April 2010
United States34 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 04:56:13
August 02 2010 04:52 GMT
#92
On August 02 2010 12:59 IdrA wrote:
the thing with is vs terran you literally cant play safe, if they wall and leave marines on the edge of their base they can do any number of strategies, all of which have completely different counters.

obviously i cared and did everything i could to win, terran is just utterly ridiculous right now.

it is not a fluke. it is a result of the fact that terran has a million viable rushes that have completely different counters and cannot be scouted, and they have a perfectly solid mid/late game to fall back on that you have to be aware of too. means you cant just cut econ to defend everything, if that were even possible, cuz then theyd run you over mid game.


If it's mostly the scouting that causes it, what would a change such as Overlords having Changeling baseline (at the cost of like 150 or 200 energy) that way one of your first 1 or 2 overlords can drop one by the time they make it to their base. Perhaps even have changeling be targetted, that way the overlord can peek barely into the vision of your enemy's base, drop a changeling in, without immediately alerting the person where you're coming in at to kill the changeling.

Just a random idea I thought of to have a very subtle change possibly fix a scouting problem early game. Another idea a friend had was to make overlord speed be tier 1 and 50/50, and keep drop at tier2 still. Fast upgrade like concussive shells.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
August 02 2010 04:55 GMT
#93
every race has trouble scouting, it's SC2
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
August 02 2010 04:55 GMT
#94
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 02 2010 13:49 jax1492 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2010 13:33 Midj wrote:
Does it bug anyone else that PureMiss calls multiple barracks 'barrackses'.


It makes me think of a bear with an axe ... ultimate killing machine.

[image loading]

and also

Honestly if you have under 10 post you probably shouldn't be trashing on IdrA he is good he just won kotb, he has a valid point although i am not sure it was delivered in the proper manner.


One Barack, two Barackses.

[image loading]
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 02 2010 04:56 GMT
#95
On August 02 2010 13:55 Fayth wrote:
every race has trouble scouting, it's SC2

...Terrans have scans?
blabberrrrr
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
August 02 2010 04:56 GMT
#96
On August 02 2010 13:35 HuK wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

Hahaha, temp ban plz. :DD
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
love.less
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom293 Posts
August 02 2010 04:57 GMT
#97
nah dont ban him or he will 4 gate you in real life relentlessly on one base
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
August 02 2010 04:59 GMT
#98
On August 02 2010 13:57 love.less wrote:
nah dont ban him or he will 4 gate you in real life relentlessly on one base


It's the one base 7 gate that you should be afraid of.
Kezzer
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1268 Posts
August 02 2010 04:59 GMT
#99
On August 02 2010 13:56 kajeus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2010 13:35 HuK wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

Hahaha, temp ban plz. :DD

How come you're an scv at 500 posts?

Also, I completely back the notion for Roaches to be 1.5 supply, 2 supply is way too punishing.
stoneric
Profile Joined April 2010
United States69 Posts
August 02 2010 04:59 GMT
#100
Good games tonight, i've been watching for about 3 1/2 hours now!!

Idra, you played great, tough luck. I agree with your points, not to mention these points coming from you actually mean something. People just respond to your reputation, not to your points.

Oh, and whats with the ragging on Puremiss? He is casting these games with over 2000 viewers and taking all this time out of his day to broadcast these games and do a good cast at the same time. No need to attack the way he pronounces certain words, not a single caster out there gets through an entire cast without making mistakes.


Awesome games tonight, made my work night go by a bit faster
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