TL Mafia XXVIII - Page 47

Cool! You gave a whole bunch of Information Instead of Analysis![badtownplay] Oh hey guys, here's a bunch of stuff that was said about/by DTA and since I quoted it, you should trust me in that it points to him being mafia![/badtownplay]

So you're saying someone that is as good as DTA (you're all making him out to be quite good, I'm not too sure how good he is), is bad enough to completely swap their playing style after their original style worked bar one or two mistakes? You really think he'd go from one extreme to the other as scum to 'avoid' suspicion? That's like the total opposite of what would happen (case in point: it's happening right now).

Oh yeah, intuition is awesome. We should always rely on our intuition to win us this game of analysis. I mean, clearly your intuition was correct about Foolishness being blue/red. Again, you're saying just because DTA is taking a low profile that he's scum. You can't just say "he's playing different, scum!" WHY does playing different make him scum, WHY does playing the total extreme of the way he played before make him scum. What about real life issues? What about the fact that he would be responding to these accusations if he really was mafia and was simply lurking?

Cause and effect. Just because Foolishness was pointing at DTA doesn't mean that it's why he died. I mean, it COULD be but the way you're selling it is as if it's the absolute truth.

That's just complete bullshit. I don't even know how the fuck you had the balls to come up with that list that completely condemns DTA and criticizes his play. You're assuming he's some horrible player and basing his scum play based on this assumption, when the general consensus is that DTA is a good player.

But hey, I don't mind if you lynch him. As you guys have said, he hasn't been very helpful this game. I mean hell, if he's blue/green it only buys me credibility which is needed for the late game.

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So my computer overheated and my reply got deleted. >> Normally it gets saved, but too much turning on and off I guess. So I'm going to write a shorter version.


First off, anyone who thinks all of the words in that post are Pyrr's is sadly mistaken. Half of it has been said before - hence his calling it a "story." I'm looking at you Subversion.

Main points:

My playstyle: Yeah, my playstyle is different. What's the big deal? Most of you are basing this on flamewheel's last game anyway. How can you define someone's playstyle by one game, just because I was mafia mayor? Not to mention that BrownBear's account of that game is wrong. I didn't overstep on the last day. We were already done that night, when onihunter had been lynched, and bumatlarge was going to be checked that night and we had no way to stop it. We COULD have tried to persuade the town that DCLXVI was full of crap but none of us were really up to it, or at least, I know I wasn't. Playing mafia in a thirty player newbie game and being as active as I was is way too tiring. But anyway, I like how no one ever brings up my play in Caller's game where I was last townie, or any other game. Plus, "Chezinu-style" (not that I'm even doing that) is not necessarily scummy. Look at TMMM - he and BM were town but still spammed. so maybe it doesn't help the town, but that's exactly the argument that Ace, YellowInk, and I used to get him lynched while we were mafia.

Wifom: a lot of the arguments against me are wifom. I'm sure you know that. But for those who don't, here are examples of wifom: "Darth is mafia because he claimed mafia and he's using double reverse psychology." "Darth is mafia because mafia hit Foolishness and not him." "Darth is mafia because mafia would think that he is blue and thus hit him." etc. etc. If anyone needs an explanation, ask for it, but hopefully, those of you currently voting for me will see it.

Scattered Voting: Who was it that said a bandwagon doesn't have be started by a vote, just posting? It's pretty much the same thing. Most of my votes have been for fun. You'll notice that people like d3 get to slip by with voting, posting, and leaving, but me? Nah I get called out and bandwagoned.

Day 1 I'm pretty sure I went something like abstain > d3 > d3 > amber. I don't recall abstaining a second time. And Amber was a legitimate vote. d3 was not (semi-placeholder). I'm sure since you've analyzed me so carefully, you'll see this.

Divinek vote was purely lols. BrownBear is for obvious reasons - did you see his veteran plan? Add that to his day 1 behavior and he makes a pretty good early vote for today. When I switched to Subversion, did I really make a sarcastic joke? I remember being pretty serious around there, and I definitely explained myself. It basically came down to BB, I'd like to watch for another day, vs. Subversion who wasn't even defending himself/posting at that time. Of course he comes in later and cries townie and everyone leaves him alone.

My crazy voting is in no way an indication of my role. Stop trying to make it what it isn't. Again, why would I attract attention by doing that, when those "bandwagon" attempts didn't even get a SECOND vote?

Down to your main points and Foolishness:

Explain to me how I dodged Foolishness by turning it back on him? I made several posts that included logical reasons explaining myself, and as an AFTER THOUGHT, I called him out on it as well. He was calling me out for not contributing when I was contributing as much as he was - is it illogical for me to call him out on that? If someone's going to call me out for contribution, I prefer it be someone who has actually contributed.

1) Where do I ever defend myself without logic? As a whole, of course, not ONE post in a conversation.
2) Uh, I'm pretty sure I offered a lot more than that one post where I counterattacked Foolishness. And I've explained this.
3) Who are you all to tell me how to play? I'm still helping the town, aren't I? If my way of having fun is posting silly stuff in between, then what's wrong with that?
4) This is a point? Plus, if I was really mafia spamming, I'd make my spam posts much longer and make them appear to have content to waste more of the town's time, rather than posting things that most people dismiss.
5) This is a point, too? Vote changing != mafia. Most of votes up til now have been jokes anyway.
6) Completely wifom. You know this, so why include it?
7) Thanks.
8) Not when my computer time has decreased to ... 10% of what it used to be. I've been on vacation since halfway through Godfather Mafia. Several of you should know this (maybe not you Pyrr, but still). Hence, less from me.

So my computer overheated and my reply got deleted. >> Normally it gets saved, but too much turning on and off I guess. So I'm going to write a shorter version.


First off, anyone who thinks all of the words in that post are Pyrr's is sadly mistaken. Half of it has been said before - hence his calling it a "story." I'm looking at you Subversion.

Main points:

My playstyle: Yeah, my playstyle is different. What's the big deal? Most of you are basing this on flamewheel's last game anyway. How can you define someone's playstyle by one game, just because I was mafia mayor? Not to mention that BrownBear's account of that game is wrong. I didn't overstep on the last day. We were already done that night, when onihunter had been lynched, and bumatlarge was going to be checked that night and we had no way to stop it. We COULD have tried to persuade the town that DCLXVI was full of crap but none of us were really up to it, or at least, I know I wasn't. Playing mafia in a thirty player newbie game and being as active as I was is way too tiring. But anyway, I like how no one ever brings up my play in Caller's game where I was last townie, or any other game. Plus, "Chezinu-style" (not that I'm even doing that) is not necessarily scummy. Look at TMMM - he and BM were town but still spammed. so maybe it doesn't help the town, but that's exactly the argument that Ace, YellowInk, and I used to get him lynched while we were mafia.

Wifom: a lot of the arguments against me are wifom. I'm sure you know that. But for those who don't, here are examples of wifom: "Darth is mafia because he claimed mafia and he's using double reverse psychology." "Darth is mafia because mafia hit Foolishness and not him." "Darth is mafia because mafia would think that he is blue and thus hit him." etc. etc. If anyone needs an explanation, ask for it, but hopefully, those of you currently voting for me will see it.

Scattered Voting: Who was it that said a bandwagon doesn't have be started by a vote, just posting? It's pretty much the same thing. Most of my votes have been for fun. You'll notice that people like d3 get to slip by with voting, posting, and leaving, but me? Nah I get called out and bandwagoned.

Day 1 I'm pretty sure I went something like abstain > d3 > d3 > amber. I don't recall abstaining a second time. And Amber was a legitimate vote. d3 was not (semi-placeholder). I'm sure since you've analyzed me so carefully, you'll see this.

Divinek vote was purely lols. BrownBear is for obvious reasons - did you see his veteran plan? Add that to his day 1 behavior and he makes a pretty good early vote for today. When I switched to Subversion, did I really make a sarcastic joke? I remember being pretty serious around there, and I definitely explained myself. It basically came down to BB, I'd like to watch for another day, vs. Subversion who wasn't even defending himself/posting at that time. Of course he comes in later and cries townie and everyone leaves him alone.

My crazy voting is in no way an indication of my role. Stop trying to make it what it isn't. Again, why would I attract attention by doing that, when those "bandwagon" attempts didn't even get a SECOND vote?

Down to your main points and Foolishness:

Explain to me how I dodged Foolishness by turning it back on him? I made several posts that included logical reasons explaining myself, and as an AFTER THOUGHT, I called him out on it as well. He was calling me out for not contributing when I was contributing as much as he was - is it illogical for me to call him out on that? If someone's going to call me out for contribution, I prefer it be someone who has actually contributed.

1) Where do I ever defend myself without logic? As a whole, of course, not ONE post in a conversation.
2) Uh, I'm pretty sure I offered a lot more than that one post where I counterattacked Foolishness. And I've explained this.
3) Who are you all to tell me how to play? I'm still helping the town, aren't I? If my way of having fun is posting silly stuff in between, then what's wrong with that?
4) This is a point? Plus, if I was really mafia spamming, I'd make my spam posts much longer and make them appear to have content to waste more of the town's time, rather than posting things that most people dismiss.
5) This is a point, too? Vote changing != mafia. Most of votes up til now have been jokes anyway.
6) Completely wifom. You know this, so why include it?
7) Thanks.
8) Not when my computer time has decreased to ... 10% of what it used to be. I've been on vacation since halfway through Godfather Mafia. Several of you should know this (maybe not you Pyrr, but still). Hence, less from me.