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Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
October 11 2012 10:35 GMT
#601
On October 11 2012 19:33 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 19:32 Jehct wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:30 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:25 Diizzy wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:23 Jehct wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:21 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Even fairly bad mech vs. mech is enjoyable.

:D

Don't know if you could call that fairly bad, Bomber did just beat Baby in TvT. That was probably equivalent to any 2 code S terrans meching it out


baby was actually worse than bogus in bw when they switch. Noone knows what skill level bogus is at yet but he was certainly the best stx player in bw when they left.


Yes, Bogus is very good. Baby was younger, and also burst out the scene earlier than Bogus, people already see big potential from baby when he is 15, so he is more famous.

...he's had more success faster so he's more famous rofl


What' wrong with that logic? Success means fame, no?

Was just pointing out the over-analysis. Age doesn't play into it as much as Baby just being generally better; if Bogus was the same age, baby would still be more famous
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 11 2012 10:36 GMT
#602
On October 11 2012 19:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 19:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL Code A Ro32
Trap vs SuperNoVa
Game 1
Map: Daybreak
Score: 0-0


0:00
Trap spawns in the bottom left
SuperNoVa spawns in the top right

1:30
gas first for Supernova
Gateway first for Trap
rax for Supernova

2:00
gas for Trap
Cybernetics core for Trap

3:00
2nd gas for Trap
Factory for Supernova
reactor for Supernova on the rax
2nd gas for Supernova

4:00
starport for Supernova
tech lab started on the rax
reactored hellion production begins
Nexus started for Trap
Trap adding another gate

5:00
3rd gate for Trap
cloak started for Supernova
Banshee production started
Robo started for Trap

6:00
CC started for Supernova on the high ground
observer for Trap

7:00
Bunker for supernova
first banshee is deflected with 2 kills. survives with 6 HP
more observers coming out
3rd CC started for Supernova

8:00
Raven started for Supernova
immortal production started for Trap
Supernova floating down his OC to the natural
Forge for Trap
2 more rax for supernova
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 11 2012 10:37 GMT
#603
On October 11 2012 19:34 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 19:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:30 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:23 Jehct wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:21 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Even fairly bad mech vs. mech is enjoyable.

:D

Don't know if you could call that fairly bad, Bomber did just beat Baby in TvT. That was probably equivalent to any 2 code S terrans meching it out


Well MVP vs Taeja mech vs mech on daybreak was waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyys better in terms of decision making and positioning imo.


you dont compare the worlds 2 best terrans to 2 other terrans lol........


But he said "any code s terrans" so I had to!!!

Map plays a huge role in that, the relatively small cloud kingdom creates scrappier mech games, whereas daybreak is a lot more clear-cut in terms of positional control. Didn't see the game in question (or don't remember it) so can't really comment beyond that


I definitely agree. Still, there were a ton of weird decisions made in the bomber vs bogus game that I didn't really understand. MVP vs Taeja (btw watch it, awesome game) was super high level play from both players and I don't remember either one making a real mistake. The winner just won through great positioning and split second decision making.
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KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 10:38:23
October 11 2012 10:37 GMT
#604
GSL players still way better in taking out the neutral depot!
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 10:38:24
October 11 2012 10:37 GMT
#605
On October 11 2012 19:35 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 19:33 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:32 Jehct wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:30 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:25 Diizzy wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:23 Jehct wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:21 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Even fairly bad mech vs. mech is enjoyable.

:D

Don't know if you could call that fairly bad, Bomber did just beat Baby in TvT. That was probably equivalent to any 2 code S terrans meching it out


baby was actually worse than bogus in bw when they switch. Noone knows what skill level bogus is at yet but he was certainly the best stx player in bw when they left.


Yes, Bogus is very good. Baby was younger, and also burst out the scene earlier than Bogus, people already see big potential from baby when he is 15, so he is more famous.

...he's had more success faster so he's more famous rofl


What' wrong with that logic? Success means fame, no?

Was just pointing out the over-analysis. Age doesn't play into it as much as Baby just being generally better; if Bogus was the same age, baby would still be more famous


Yes it does, his OSL royal road try created his fame.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
October 11 2012 10:37 GMT
#606
Feels like a bit of a risky buid going cloak into double CC with no defensive tanks.

Trap not going to leave his base though.
Censured
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1061 Posts
October 11 2012 10:39 GMT
#607
wow Trap so impressive
Occupation: Legend
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 11 2012 10:40 GMT
#608
On October 11 2012 19:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 19:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL Code A Ro32
Trap vs SuperNoVa
Game 1
Map: Daybreak
Score: 0-0


0:00
Trap spawns in the bottom left
SuperNoVa spawns in the top right

1:30
gas first for Supernova
Gateway first for Trap
rax for Supernova

2:00
gas for Trap
Cybernetics core for Trap

3:00
2nd gas for Trap
Factory for Supernova
reactor for Supernova on the rax
2nd gas for Supernova

4:00
starport for Supernova
tech lab started on the rax
reactored hellion production begins
Nexus started for Trap
Trap adding another gate

5:00
3rd gate for Trap
cloak started for Supernova
Banshee production started
Robo started for Trap

6:00
CC started for Supernova on the high ground
observer for Trap

7:00
Bunker for supernova
first banshee is deflected with 2 kills. survives with 6 HP
more observers coming out
3rd CC started for Supernova

8:00
Raven started for Supernova
immortal production started for Trap
Supernova floating down his OC to the natural
Forge for Trap
2 more rax for supernova

9:00
2nd forge for Trap
double ebay for supernova
Trap 15 supply ahead
stim started for Supernova
Twilight council started for Trap
+1 attack started for Trap
1-1 started for Supernova
2 hellions go into the natural of Trap but kill nothing

10:00
banshee in the main is deflected by stalkers
combat shields on the way
+1 armor started for Trap
3 more gates added on for Trap
3rd base started for Trap
charge started for Trap
templar archives started for Trap

11:00
Supernova lands his 3rd base
double drop loaded up for Supernova
armory building for Supernova
2more rax added on
probe scouts the double drop from supernova
storm research started for Trap
feedback on the medivac trying to drop the main

12:00
Concussive shells finishes
2-2 started for Trap
Storm finishing up
+2 attack started for Supernova

13:00
+2 armor started for Supernova
Cannons go down in the main mineral line of Trap
ghost academy started for supernova
zealots warped in and runby to the 3rd of supernova
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Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 10:43:45
October 11 2012 10:40 GMT
#609
On October 11 2012 19:37 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 19:35 Jehct wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:33 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:32 Jehct wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:30 ElephantBaby wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:25 Diizzy wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:23 Jehct wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:21 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Even fairly bad mech vs. mech is enjoyable.

:D

Don't know if you could call that fairly bad, Bomber did just beat Baby in TvT. That was probably equivalent to any 2 code S terrans meching it out


baby was actually worse than bogus in bw when they switch. Noone knows what skill level bogus is at yet but he was certainly the best stx player in bw when they left.


Yes, Bogus is very good. Baby was younger, and also burst out the scene earlier than Bogus, people already see big potential from baby when he is 15, so he is more famous.

...he's had more success faster so he's more famous rofl


What' wrong with that logic? Success means fame, no?

Was just pointing out the over-analysis. Age doesn't play into it as much as Baby just being generally better; if Bogus was the same age, baby would still be more famous


Yes it does, his OSL royal road try created his fame.

...I'm saying that Bogus has had no run/success that compares regardless of age. If Baby had been 20 when he had his royal road try, he'd still be more famous than Bogus. Age definitely plays a role in terms of getting fame, but it's not the difference if you're comparing the two.

On October 11 2012 19:37 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 19:34 Jehct wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:30 X3GoldDot wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:25 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:23 Jehct wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:21 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Even fairly bad mech vs. mech is enjoyable.

:D

Don't know if you could call that fairly bad, Bomber did just beat Baby in TvT. That was probably equivalent to any 2 code S terrans meching it out


Well MVP vs Taeja mech vs mech on daybreak was waaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyys better in terms of decision making and positioning imo.


you dont compare the worlds 2 best terrans to 2 other terrans lol........


But he said "any code s terrans" so I had to!!!

Map plays a huge role in that, the relatively small cloud kingdom creates scrappier mech games, whereas daybreak is a lot more clear-cut in terms of positional control. Didn't see the game in question (or don't remember it) so can't really comment beyond that


I definitely agree. Still, there were a ton of weird decisions made in the bomber vs bogus game that I didn't really understand. MVP vs Taeja (btw watch it, awesome game) was super high level play from both players and I don't remember either one making a real mistake. The winner just won through great positioning and split second decision making.

The crazy decisions no one understands are often as high level as the really clear, crisp play; it's just a completely different style. Making 30 good/decent decisions is often harder than making 5 'right' decisions, if that makes sense.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 10:42:21
October 11 2012 10:40 GMT
#610
i love the raven for supernova. saving scans ftw. hopefully it survives hts

fuck. 1 feedback and gone
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 11 2012 10:42 GMT
#611
On October 11 2012 19:40 Hryul wrote:
i love the raven for supernova. saving scans ftw. hopefully it survives hts


Well.
lol
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
October 11 2012 10:42 GMT
#612
That huge zealot warpin is going to wreck supernova.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 10:43:11
October 11 2012 10:42 GMT
#613
On October 11 2012 19:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 19:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:32 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On October 11 2012 19:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL Code A Ro32
Trap vs SuperNoVa
Game 1
Map: Daybreak
Score: 0-0


0:00
Trap spawns in the bottom left
SuperNoVa spawns in the top right

1:30
gas first for Supernova
Gateway first for Trap
rax for Supernova

2:00
gas for Trap
Cybernetics core for Trap

3:00
2nd gas for Trap
Factory for Supernova
reactor for Supernova on the rax
2nd gas for Supernova

4:00
starport for Supernova
tech lab started on the rax
reactored hellion production begins
Nexus started for Trap
Trap adding another gate

5:00
3rd gate for Trap
cloak started for Supernova
Banshee production started
Robo started for Trap

6:00
CC started for Supernova on the high ground
observer for Trap

7:00
Bunker for supernova
first banshee is deflected with 2 kills. survives with 6 HP
more observers coming out
3rd CC started for Supernova

8:00
Raven started for Supernova
immortal production started for Trap
Supernova floating down his OC to the natural
Forge for Trap
2 more rax for supernova

9:00
2nd forge for Trap
double ebay for supernova
Trap 15 supply ahead
stim started for Supernova
Twilight council started for Trap
+1 attack started for Trap
1-1 started for Supernova
2 hellions go into the natural of Trap but kill nothing

10:00
banshee in the main is deflected by stalkers
combat shields on the way
+1 armor started for Trap
3 more gates added on for Trap
3rd base started for Trap
charge started for Trap
templar archives started for Trap

11:00
Supernova lands his 3rd base
double drop loaded up for Supernova
armory building for Supernova
2more rax added on
probe scouts the double drop from supernova
storm research started for Trap
feedback on the medivac trying to drop the main

12:00
Concussive shells finishes
2-2 started for Trap
Storm finishing up
+2 attack started for Supernova

13:00
+2 armor started for Supernova
Cannons go down in the main mineral line of Trap
ghost academy started for supernova
zealots warped in and runby to the 3rd of supernova

14:00
moebius reactor started
ghost production begins
Robotics support bay started for Trap
+3 attack started for Trap

15:00
+3 armor started for Trap
2 more gates added on
3 rax added for Supernova
lots of zealot runbys from Trap
Warp prism and Warp prism speed on the way from Trap

16:00
+3 armor started for Supernova
feedback kills the raven
warp prism headed for the main of supernova
storm drop in the main
storm on supernova's army by a flanking HT

17:00
mass zealot warp in in supernova's main
4th base from Trap
Supernova attacking into the 3rd of Supernova
observer speed on the way
2nd Warp prism on the way
forcefields trap supernova's army
Supernova 40 supply down
Supernova ggs!
Trap wins game 1!
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Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
October 11 2012 10:43 GMT
#614
Oh Supernova...what a bop.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
October 11 2012 10:43 GMT
#615
GG
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 11 2012 10:43 GMT
#616
Poll: Recommend Trap vs SuperNova game 1?

Yes (11)
 
69%

If you have time (3)
 
19%

No (2)
 
13%

16 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Trap vs SuperNova game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
October 11 2012 10:43 GMT
#617
supernova got trapped!
Die-hard KeSPA fan
batterseapower
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom111 Posts
October 11 2012 10:43 GMT
#618
This is a stomp. Trap is just playing so perfectly.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 11 2012 10:43 GMT
#619
jeez, kespa players playing really well
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 11 2012 10:43 GMT
#620
Wow that was pretty impressive by Trap.
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