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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 16 2011 22:07 GMT
#601
lol kenpachi, you should join me in just not giving a fuck
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 16 2011 22:07 GMT
#602
"gg i surrender"
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 16 2011 22:08 GMT
#603
On November 17 2011 07:07 Kenpachi wrote:
"gg i surrender"


I really hope your scum -.-
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 16 2011 22:09 GMT
#604
for all you know i could be doctor you derp
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 16 2011 22:09 GMT
#605
On November 17 2011 07:09 Kenpachi wrote:
for all you know i could be doctor you derp


no, i'm the doctor!

(we really need a third person to do the hole Spartacus thing though)
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 16 2011 22:10 GMT
#606
whole*
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Kibibit
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1551 Posts
November 16 2011 22:10 GMT
#607
On November 17 2011 06:56 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 06:10 Kibibit wrote:
On November 17 2011 05:33 chaoser wrote:
Why did you claim green townie? You've seen what happend to Kenpachi after he claimed green townie. The two guys who have claimed green townie currently have the most votes. I can't see any benefit to saying you're a green townie day 1, its just bringing undeserved attention to your self.


Should ask yourself first. Why would mafia want undeserved attention? And what does mafia gain from saying they're townie outright in thread? What does a townie gain from claiming townie outright in the thread just as the game starts?

Ask yourself why are people saying the main reason they want to vote me/kenpachi for saying we're townie when it's a null tell?

I don't mind getting lynched, but I'd rather kenpachi doesn't. He's pretty underrated.

Sinani is a way better lynch.

If the mafia is playing super aggressively, which I've definitely seen more experienced players do, then it makes perfect sense to claim townie out of the gate. It's definitely tricky to lynch someone who you can't tell if they are just a mafia stirring the pot or just an eager townie. I may be wrong, but nothing you said there is too far out of line for mafia.

##vote: chaoser


Show nested quote +
It's definitely tricky to lynch someone who you can't tell if they are just a mafia stirring the pot or just an eager townie. I may be wrong, but nothing you said there is too far out of line for mafia.


So you agree it's a null tell? Nothing I said there is out of line for mafia but nothing I said there is out of lien for town either? If it's tricky to tell why are you voting to lynch me based solely around the fact that I claimed townie in thread?

Because you've been hyper-aggressive, almost nonsensically so. If it were simply to put pressure on lurkers or reasonably obvious scum, I'd probably lean towards not voting, but your actions so far feel less like you're trying to root out scum and more like you're banking on someone to slip up.

Of course, none of this is definitive proof, but it all came down to an internal decision; Are you experienced scum or a townie doing nothing more than kicking up a lot of dust for the sake of it? Neither seems too helpful to me. Thus the vote.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 16 2011 22:11 GMT
#608
On November 17 2011 07:09 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 07:09 Kenpachi wrote:
for all you know i could be doctor you derp


no, i'm the doctor!

(we really need a third person to do the hole Spartacus thing though)


I AM THE DOCTOR AND I SECRETLY PROTECTED EVERY SCUM IN THE GAME
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 16 2011 22:11 GMT
#609
On November 17 2011 07:11 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 07:09 chaoser wrote:
On November 17 2011 07:09 Kenpachi wrote:
for all you know i could be doctor you derp


no, i'm the doctor!

(we really need a third person to do the hole Spartacus thing though)


I AM THE DOCTOR AND I SECRETLY PROTECTED EVERY SCUM IN THE GAME


lol, it's funny that your protects in that game were for a mafia and then for a third-party lololol
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 16 2011 22:12 GMT
#610
On November 17 2011 07:11 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 07:11 Drazerk wrote:
On November 17 2011 07:09 chaoser wrote:
On November 17 2011 07:09 Kenpachi wrote:
for all you know i could be doctor you derp


no, i'm the doctor!

(we really need a third person to do the hole Spartacus thing though)


I AM THE DOCTOR AND I SECRETLY PROTECTED EVERY SCUM IN THE GAME


lol, it's funny that your protects in that game were for a mafia and then for a third-party lololol


In arkham asylum I protected the serial killer every night -.-
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
November 16 2011 22:14 GMT
#611
On November 17 2011 07:00 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 06:39 Lemonwalrus wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.

##Vote Kenpachi

That's why I only voted Lanaia, figure Lanaia flips scum, Kenpachi auto-lynch day 2, Lanaia flips town, then back to the drawing board. I felt that Lanaia was the best choice since she is either a scum or a town that used a powerful role in what I consider to be an untownly fashion, what is your reasoning for Kenpachi instead?



Lemon, what do you think of risk's response?



Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 06:47 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:34 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.

##Vote Kenpachi


perhaps, but why choose to lynch kenpachi over the guy who anti-voted him?

If kenpachi is green, then lanaia probably isn't scum.
If kenpachi is red we got a scumkill even if that doesn't necessarily mean lanaia is his buddy.

If lanai is green that means nothing for kenpachis alignment.
If lanai is red then kenpachi is scum.

I think we learn more from knowing kenpachis alignment.


Im starting to agree with him a bit, but in my eyes neither kenpachi or lanaia is off the hook just yet.

I don't agree with risk's assessment and no longer agree with my original assessment because I can't see any scum team doing something this risky (or dumb, depending on how you want to look at it) on day 1. However, since Kenpachi has now adopted the "lol town is bad I'm not going to try anymore" mentality he is either scum or a townie that is no longer playing to win. Either way I don't want him to still be here for day 2.

##Vote: Kenpachi

I know that Kenpachi is capable of a lot, but if he can't offer simple explanations for what he considers to be obvious things then what is the point?
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 16 2011 22:15 GMT
#612
On November 17 2011 07:10 Kibibit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 06:56 chaoser wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:10 Kibibit wrote:
On November 17 2011 05:33 chaoser wrote:
Why did you claim green townie? You've seen what happend to Kenpachi after he claimed green townie. The two guys who have claimed green townie currently have the most votes. I can't see any benefit to saying you're a green townie day 1, its just bringing undeserved attention to your self.


Should ask yourself first. Why would mafia want undeserved attention? And what does mafia gain from saying they're townie outright in thread? What does a townie gain from claiming townie outright in the thread just as the game starts?

Ask yourself why are people saying the main reason they want to vote me/kenpachi for saying we're townie when it's a null tell?

I don't mind getting lynched, but I'd rather kenpachi doesn't. He's pretty underrated.

Sinani is a way better lynch.

If the mafia is playing super aggressively, which I've definitely seen more experienced players do, then it makes perfect sense to claim townie out of the gate. It's definitely tricky to lynch someone who you can't tell if they are just a mafia stirring the pot or just an eager townie. I may be wrong, but nothing you said there is too far out of line for mafia.

##vote: chaoser


It's definitely tricky to lynch someone who you can't tell if they are just a mafia stirring the pot or just an eager townie. I may be wrong, but nothing you said there is too far out of line for mafia.


So you agree it's a null tell? Nothing I said there is out of line for mafia but nothing I said there is out of lien for town either? If it's tricky to tell why are you voting to lynch me based solely around the fact that I claimed townie in thread?

Because you've been hyper-aggressive, almost nonsensically so. If it were simply to put pressure on lurkers or reasonably obvious scum, I'd probably lean towards not voting, but your actions so far feel less like you're trying to root out scum and more like you're banking on someone to slip up.

Of course, none of this is definitive proof, but it all came down to an internal decision; Are you experienced scum or a townie doing nothing more than kicking up a lot of dust for the sake of it? Neither seems too helpful to me. Thus the vote.


Ok then why not vote sinani? He's either lurking scum or a lurking trolling townie. What's the difference there?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 16 2011 22:15 GMT
#613
On November 17 2011 07:14 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 07:00 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:39 Lemonwalrus wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.

##Vote Kenpachi

That's why I only voted Lanaia, figure Lanaia flips scum, Kenpachi auto-lynch day 2, Lanaia flips town, then back to the drawing board. I felt that Lanaia was the best choice since she is either a scum or a town that used a powerful role in what I consider to be an untownly fashion, what is your reasoning for Kenpachi instead?



Lemon, what do you think of risk's response?



On November 17 2011 06:47 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:34 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.

##Vote Kenpachi


perhaps, but why choose to lynch kenpachi over the guy who anti-voted him?

If kenpachi is green, then lanaia probably isn't scum.
If kenpachi is red we got a scumkill even if that doesn't necessarily mean lanaia is his buddy.

If lanai is green that means nothing for kenpachis alignment.
If lanai is red then kenpachi is scum.

I think we learn more from knowing kenpachis alignment.


Im starting to agree with him a bit, but in my eyes neither kenpachi or lanaia is off the hook just yet.

I don't agree with risk's assessment and no longer agree with my original assessment because I can't see any scum team doing something this risky (or dumb, depending on how you want to look at it) on day 1. However, since Kenpachi has now adopted the "lol town is bad I'm not going to try anymore" mentality he is either scum or a townie that is no longer playing to win. Either way I don't want him to still be here for day 2.

##Vote: Kenpachi

I know that Kenpachi is capable of a lot, but if he can't offer simple explanations for what he considers to be obvious things then what is the point?


oh oh vote for me too! I fall under that category!

"lol town is bad I'm not going to try anymore" mentality
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#614
No one can catch my drift cause im too far ahead~
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 16 2011 22:17 GMT
#615
On November 17 2011 07:15 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 07:14 Lemonwalrus wrote:
On November 17 2011 07:00 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:39 Lemonwalrus wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.

##Vote Kenpachi

That's why I only voted Lanaia, figure Lanaia flips scum, Kenpachi auto-lynch day 2, Lanaia flips town, then back to the drawing board. I felt that Lanaia was the best choice since she is either a scum or a town that used a powerful role in what I consider to be an untownly fashion, what is your reasoning for Kenpachi instead?



Lemon, what do you think of risk's response?



On November 17 2011 06:47 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:34 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.

##Vote Kenpachi


perhaps, but why choose to lynch kenpachi over the guy who anti-voted him?

If kenpachi is green, then lanaia probably isn't scum.
If kenpachi is red we got a scumkill even if that doesn't necessarily mean lanaia is his buddy.

If lanai is green that means nothing for kenpachis alignment.
If lanai is red then kenpachi is scum.

I think we learn more from knowing kenpachis alignment.


Im starting to agree with him a bit, but in my eyes neither kenpachi or lanaia is off the hook just yet.

I don't agree with risk's assessment and no longer agree with my original assessment because I can't see any scum team doing something this risky (or dumb, depending on how you want to look at it) on day 1. However, since Kenpachi has now adopted the "lol town is bad I'm not going to try anymore" mentality he is either scum or a townie that is no longer playing to win. Either way I don't want him to still be here for day 2.

##Vote: Kenpachi

I know that Kenpachi is capable of a lot, but if he can't offer simple explanations for what he considers to be obvious things then what is the point?


oh oh vote for me too! I fall under that category!

Show nested quote +
"lol town is bad I'm not going to try anymore" mentality


Trying to get the only person not voting for you to vote for you?
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 16 2011 22:20 GMT
#616
On November 17 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 07:15 chaoser wrote:
On November 17 2011 07:14 Lemonwalrus wrote:
On November 17 2011 07:00 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:39 Lemonwalrus wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.

##Vote Kenpachi

That's why I only voted Lanaia, figure Lanaia flips scum, Kenpachi auto-lynch day 2, Lanaia flips town, then back to the drawing board. I felt that Lanaia was the best choice since she is either a scum or a town that used a powerful role in what I consider to be an untownly fashion, what is your reasoning for Kenpachi instead?



Lemon, what do you think of risk's response?



On November 17 2011 06:47 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:34 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.

##Vote Kenpachi


perhaps, but why choose to lynch kenpachi over the guy who anti-voted him?

If kenpachi is green, then lanaia probably isn't scum.
If kenpachi is red we got a scumkill even if that doesn't necessarily mean lanaia is his buddy.

If lanai is green that means nothing for kenpachis alignment.
If lanai is red then kenpachi is scum.

I think we learn more from knowing kenpachis alignment.


Im starting to agree with him a bit, but in my eyes neither kenpachi or lanaia is off the hook just yet.

I don't agree with risk's assessment and no longer agree with my original assessment because I can't see any scum team doing something this risky (or dumb, depending on how you want to look at it) on day 1. However, since Kenpachi has now adopted the "lol town is bad I'm not going to try anymore" mentality he is either scum or a townie that is no longer playing to win. Either way I don't want him to still be here for day 2.

##Vote: Kenpachi

I know that Kenpachi is capable of a lot, but if he can't offer simple explanations for what he considers to be obvious things then what is the point?


oh oh vote for me too! I fall under that category!

"lol town is bad I'm not going to try anymore" mentality


Trying to get the only person not voting for you to vote for you?


what a scum agenda right?

At all the people who love to somehow pin the "chaoser is analytically and pro and awesome y u no awesome this game with big long analytically posts??" onto me. If you think every single player is defined by one single meta and unless they play that one meta that they're scum then I'm going to be popping lots of corn when you get owned in the face by a BC/Ace led mafia team.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
HarbingerOfDoom
Profile Joined December 2010
United States508 Posts
November 16 2011 22:21 GMT
#617
I'm going to hold off voting on Lanaia for now. While double voting or anti-voting is certainly powerful for both scum and for town, it is a lot less useful for scum if it is prominently announced for all to see on the vote list. If Lanaia is town, presumably scum will eventually settle the issue. If Lanaia is scum, it will be hard for her to use her ability without blatantly giving things away later on. Also, unless she thought her anti-vote would be hidden, I find it hard to believe scum would be so brash on day 1.

That being said, I am going to vote for Drazerk. I said if he didn't give a good reason for his vote I'd be voting for him, and I intend to follow through on that. He seems to like trumpeting the fact that he has generally sucked as town, and overall I think his contributions have not exactly been helping to create a good town atmosphere. His repeated mentions of how much he has screwed up as town in the past combined with his plethora of 1 liners and votes with little reason behind them makes it seem like he is trying to play anti-town and get away with it because it's just his meta.
Vote: Drazerk

Now I'm going to reread the thread some and see if there is someone else I'd like to place a vote on as well.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 16 2011 22:21 GMT
#618
On November 17 2011 07:20 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 07:17 Drazerk wrote:
On November 17 2011 07:15 chaoser wrote:
On November 17 2011 07:14 Lemonwalrus wrote:
On November 17 2011 07:00 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:39 Lemonwalrus wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.

##Vote Kenpachi

That's why I only voted Lanaia, figure Lanaia flips scum, Kenpachi auto-lynch day 2, Lanaia flips town, then back to the drawing board. I felt that Lanaia was the best choice since she is either a scum or a town that used a powerful role in what I consider to be an untownly fashion, what is your reasoning for Kenpachi instead?



Lemon, what do you think of risk's response?



On November 17 2011 06:47 risk.nuke wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:34 GreYMisT wrote:
On November 17 2011 06:32 risk.nuke wrote:
Okey, but isn't this exacly one of those situations where we connected two people and should not lynch both of them incase they are town.

##Vote Kenpachi


perhaps, but why choose to lynch kenpachi over the guy who anti-voted him?

If kenpachi is green, then lanaia probably isn't scum.
If kenpachi is red we got a scumkill even if that doesn't necessarily mean lanaia is his buddy.

If lanai is green that means nothing for kenpachis alignment.
If lanai is red then kenpachi is scum.

I think we learn more from knowing kenpachis alignment.


Im starting to agree with him a bit, but in my eyes neither kenpachi or lanaia is off the hook just yet.

I don't agree with risk's assessment and no longer agree with my original assessment because I can't see any scum team doing something this risky (or dumb, depending on how you want to look at it) on day 1. However, since Kenpachi has now adopted the "lol town is bad I'm not going to try anymore" mentality he is either scum or a townie that is no longer playing to win. Either way I don't want him to still be here for day 2.

##Vote: Kenpachi

I know that Kenpachi is capable of a lot, but if he can't offer simple explanations for what he considers to be obvious things then what is the point?


oh oh vote for me too! I fall under that category!

"lol town is bad I'm not going to try anymore" mentality


Trying to get the only person not voting for you to vote for you?


what a scum agenda right?

At all the people who love to somehow pin the "chaoser is analytically and pro and awesome y u no awesome this game with big long analytically posts??" onto me. If you think every single player is defined by one single meta and unless they play that one meta that they're scum then I'm going to be popping lots of corn when you get owned in the face by a BC/Ace led mafia team.


You've seen my meta right?
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
November 16 2011 22:21 GMT
#619
I'm going to enjoy this day one lynch...I haven't been day one lynched in forever <3
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 16 2011 22:22 GMT
#620
On November 17 2011 07:21 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:
I'm going to hold off voting on Lanaia for now. While double voting or anti-voting is certainly powerful for both scum and for town, it is a lot less useful for scum if it is prominently announced for all to see on the vote list. If Lanaia is town, presumably scum will eventually settle the issue. If Lanaia is scum, it will be hard for her to use her ability without blatantly giving things away later on. Also, unless she thought her anti-vote would be hidden, I find it hard to believe scum would be so brash on day 1.

That being said, I am going to vote for Drazerk. I said if he didn't give a good reason for his vote I'd be voting for him, and I intend to follow through on that. He seems to like trumpeting the fact that he has generally sucked as town, and overall I think his contributions have not exactly been helping to create a good town atmosphere. His repeated mentions of how much he has screwed up as town in the past combined with his plethora of 1 liners and votes with little reason behind them makes it seem like he is trying to play anti-town and get away with it because it's just his meta.
Vote: Drazerk

Now I'm going to reread the thread some and see if there is someone else I'd like to place a vote on as well.


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