EPT[Q] why pros/Flash bunker rushing so much now? - Page 3
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
not really that surprising in my opinion though I do agree (as a Terran player) that I'm surprised T's don't Bunker rush more often just as a general rule given how strong it is. | ||
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Creationism
China505 Posts
In light of that, I think Flash alone makes the bunker rush work more than any other terran player. Flash is the kind of player that if you give him a LITTLE advantage and room, he takes it n rapes you in the ass with it. So zerg players want to fully capitalize in whatever way possible so that they have the highest chance of winning against Flash, which to be honest, isn't very high at all. And this Flash is the the Flash we saw when he won the OSL. Very smart and strategic with full use of his macro potential in his BoX series. Especially important because not only does he utilize his macro ability in a long macro game, he uses its shadow to gain short victories. And this is probably the highest level of strategy and intellect available in SC. | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On January 21 2010 12:32 TwoToneTerran wrote: Where you 14CC and, if you scout and see the zerg 12 hatching, you place a bunker with your scouting SCV to throw your opponent off and make him pull drones, despite the fact that no marines are coming If you 14cc, then you make a rax at like 15... if you build a bunker right after the rax, then the bunker would be so late that the Zerg wouldn't need to pull any drones and just shoo it away with his initial 6 lings. If you make the bunk before the rax, then the rax will be WAY too late. Bunker rushing after 144cc is nonsensical because there is no way you can ever make it work against a normal 12hatch 11/12 pool. | ||
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Hinanawi
United States2250 Posts
-If I don't 12hatch, I'll be really behind because Flash's macro is so flawless. -I can't cheese Flash, his control is too good. -Then maybe I should go pool first? But then I'll be behind economically, and Flash is too good to hand any advantage at all to... -I guess I'll 12hatch. He wouldn't dare bunker rush again after he did it again so recently. -FUCK When was the last time someone tried cheesing Flash, anyway? It's uncanny how rarely it happens. | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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XinRan
United States530 Posts
On January 21 2010 14:01 Hinanawi wrote:When was the last time someone tried cheesing Flash, anyway? It's uncanny how rarely it happens. lol, you don't remember the lair-first two hatch muta rushes that Zero and Calm did like every game against Flash? What about gas-steal to proxy robo by Movie? | ||
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
On January 21 2010 13:57 koreasilver wrote: If you 14cc, then you make a rax at like 15... if you build a bunker right after the rax, then the bunker would be so late that the Zerg wouldn't need to pull any drones and just shoo it away with his initial 6 lings. If you make the bunk before the rax, then the rax will be WAY too late. Bunker rushing after 144cc is nonsensical because there is no way you can ever make it work against a normal 12hatch 11/12 pool. how can u make bunker before rax, when you need a rax to make a bunker? | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On January 21 2010 14:14 saltywet wrote: how can u make bunker before rax, when you need a rax to make a bunker? Oh yeah, my bad. Still doesn't change that 14cc into bunker rush makes 0 sense. | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
The reason why he was slumping / sucking was that everyone "figured" him out? Flash took that theory and flushed it down the toilet. | ||
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
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LF9
United States537 Posts
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
and did I mention my opponent sometimes cancels hatch? :D but hey most of my opponents are just along the D line. | ||
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
You don't understand, if I 9scout and see a bunker rush I have to 12 pool anyway or lose so I get doubly behind. Also the difference between 9scout 12 hatch and 12 pool-12hatch is really quite small, like razor thin | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
United States10657 Posts
On January 21 2010 11:46 Azrael1111 wrote: Flash has a lot of games to prepare for, this reduces that amount. Best Answer. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On January 21 2010 14:13 XinRan wrote: lol, you don't remember the lair-first two hatch muta rushes that Zero and Calm did like every game against Flash? What about gas-steal to proxy robo by Movie? two hatch muta is not cheese. If that is cheese then I wonder what a non cheese goes on in your head >>. | ||
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ForTheSwarm
United States556 Posts
On January 21 2010 12:02 Chill wrote: I don't get why people weren't bunker rushing more often. Its >50% win vs 12 hatch, which is extremely likely. In fact it's almost illogical not to bunker rush someone of equal skill. I've always wondered this too! Anyone remember that thread analyzing the economics of a bunker rush? If I remember correctly, even if it almost totally fails, the zerg and terran come out nearly the same economically. | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
On January 21 2010 14:13 XinRan wrote: lol, you don't remember the lair-first two hatch muta rushes that Zero and Calm did like every game against Flash? What about gas-steal to proxy robo by Movie? Flashes defense is so good. He makes every cheese laughable, from bulldogs to DTs, to early reavers. He's playing super solid right now, anyone who hopes to beat him has his work cut out for him. | ||
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