EPTHydra Mini Mafia II - Extra Nuke Edition - Page 29
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ShotgunBiceps
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raynmaster
Ivory Coast67 Posts
On April 14 2013 00:17 ShotgunBiceps wrote: raynmaster mind sharing your reads? Your only read so far seems to be that you think my partner is scummy because he did something stupid. Care to expound on that? Town Hapa isnt stupid hapa. Push on VE off a JOKE was so fucking dumb its scummy. You see in Newbie 30~, my scum partner did the same thing, pushed a dude off a joke. Also happened other times that I recall but not all that well. The worse part is that Hapa KNOWS VE, and for him to push it, yeah thats bad. Hydra names in sig please, brain not enough capacity to remember. | ||
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ShotgunBiceps
171 Posts
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raynmaster
Ivory Coast67 Posts
On April 14 2013 00:22 ShotgunBiceps wrote: So you don't have any other reads? Mocsta be scummy now. Some townreads too. Going anywhere with this? /oats | ||
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ShotgunBiceps
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MockArmor
Vatican City State88 Posts
On April 14 2013 00:17 raynmaster wrote: MockArmor: Hope this post of mine explains it: No it doesn't explain the situation at all. For brevity once more + Show Spoiler + On April 13 2013 23:45 raynmaster wrote: From what i remember Palmar has a lot of meta on VE. VE could think Palmar is actually nuking him for a reason. Also the answer to their post came pretty quick and without thinking it much further. If it was marv i would think you would have thought about the possibilities from every perspective before posting a response. As it was VE, it's more likely that you guys actually are scum. Not sure though. I gotta consult Oats about what he does think of you guys. /rayn On April 13 2013 23:53 MockArmor wrote: Why do you feel the need to post in the thread to contribute; and then limp-dick finish with "I need to consult with my partner." This aligns very much with what Syllo said earlier - and from my experience in Hydra 1, I 100% agree. On April 13 2013 18:31 SamuelLJackson wrote: In a hydra format players should be more confident in sharing their thoughts and lacking the need to comment on irrelevant things as they can discuss things with their partner. Meanwhile mafia still feels the pressure of posting.. Let us re-cap the situation thus far:
If you are incapable of contributing to the thread, due to weak meta history; or, needing to reference with your partner in general. Why post in the first place? Before trying to bullshit me: keep in mind, I was scum in the last Hydra game. Henceforth why I agreed in full with the Syllo quote, which I will post for you one more time. On April 13 2013 18:31 SamuelLJackson wrote: In a hydra format players should be more confident in sharing their thoughts and lacking the need to comment on irrelevant things as they can discuss things with their partner. Meanwhile mafia still feels the pressure of posting.. P.S. Im not quoting this post, because Syllo saying it makes it valid. Im quoting it because he said it in better words than I. | ||
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raynmaster
Ivory Coast67 Posts
On April 14 2013 00:26 ShotgunBiceps wrote: Just trying to get read on you and your stances help on that. What in Mocsta catches your eye, and is it only Mocsta or the hole hydra? Its just Mocsta and the fact that he currently has said that he doesnt want to disclose any reads. | ||
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MockArmor
Vatican City State88 Posts
On April 14 2013 00:35 raynmaster wrote: Its just Mocsta and the fact that he currently has said that he doesnt want to disclose any reads. Walk me through in particular why that is scummy. Walk me through why a townie would not choose to give out scumreads 12hrs into the game. + answer the outstanding question I have directed to you. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406683¤tpage=29#566 | ||
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raynmaster
Ivory Coast67 Posts
On April 14 2013 00:37 MockArmor wrote: Walk me through in particular why that is scummy. Walk me through why a townie would not choose to give out scumreads 12hrs into the game. + answer the outstanding question I have directed to you. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406683¤tpage=29#566 Dude, its like 18 hours, almost 24. Because then you are not taking a stand on anything and you dont have any hard statments that you have to make regarding a person's alignment. Like you can always say, NO NO I DIDNT THINK HE WAS SCUM, I DIDNT SAY THAT. So make a stand, put out your reads. I have no idea why you dont want to give out SCUMREADS at all. Thats rayn posting, Im oats. Famously said, I DONT KNOW WHAT HE IS THINKING. | ||
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MockArmor
Vatican City State88 Posts
On April 14 2013 00:40 raynmaster wrote: I will give out scum read(s) by declaring by means of a vote/case/comment etc when I feel it is appropiate. + Show Spoiler + On April 14 2013 00:37 MockArmor wrote: Walk me through in particular why that is scummy. Walk me through why a townie would not choose to give out scumreads 12hrs into the game. + answer the outstanding question I have directed to you. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406683¤tpage=29#566 Dude, its like 18 hours, almost 24. Because then you are not taking a stand on anything and you dont have any hard statments that you have to make regarding a person's alignment. Like you can always say, NO NO I DIDNT THINK HE WAS SCUM, I DIDNT SAY THAT. So make a stand, put out your reads. I have no idea why you dont want to give out SCUMREADS at all. Thats rayn posting, Im oats. Famously said, I DONT KNOW WHAT HE IS THINKING. Certainly not only because it was requested. Oh, and Oats, I am confident you will find that I answered /Rayns question in its entirety. I must admit, that I think continuing exploring this conversation is of merit however. Thus, I am still awaiting feedback to my questions. | ||
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WaveOfCheesecake
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raynmaster
Ivory Coast67 Posts
On April 14 2013 00:50 MockArmor wrote: I will give out scum read(s) by declaring by means of a vote/case/comment etc when I feel it is appropiate. Certainly not only because it was requested. I must admit, that I think continuing exploring this conversation is of merit however. Thus, I am still awaiting feedback to my questions. Whats the point of this thing? to say DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO? or something else? | ||
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WaveOfCheesecake
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MockArmor
Vatican City State88 Posts
On April 14 2013 00:54 raynmaster wrote: The point was: + Show Spoiler + On April 14 2013 00:50 MockArmor wrote: I will give out scum read(s) by declaring by means of a vote/case/comment etc when I feel it is appropiate. Certainly not only because it was requested. I must admit, that I think continuing exploring this conversation is of merit however. Thus, I am still awaiting feedback to my questions. Whats the point of this thing? to say DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO? or something else?
Namely, Question 1 & Question 2 I admit you (Oats) gave half a response to question 2. But unfornately its still only half a response. And further, I didn't realise Raynpelikoneet needed a "patsy" to speak on his behalf. | ||
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MockArmor
Vatican City State88 Posts
just replace with, needed his "qt partner" | ||
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raynmaster
Ivory Coast67 Posts
On April 14 2013 01:05 MockArmor wrote: The point was:
Namely, Question 1 & Question 2 I admit you (Oats) gave half a response to question 2. But unfornately its still only half a response. And further, I didn't realise Raynpelikoneet needed a "patsy" to speak on his behalf. So your question to Rayn is 'why post in the first place?' right? Can you explain how I am supposed to answer that in any meaningful way considering that IM NOT FUCKING RAYN?. I answered your second question idiot. Im calling you an idiot because you repeat your questions over and over in the thread like we cant read. Stop it. | ||
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WaveOfCheesecake
109 Posts
On April 13 2013 15:54 MockArmor wrote: My prior was post presented after VE presents rather valid points on both shotgun and DP/Palmar... For DP/Palmar, definitely subpar play. Sadly, they are one of several people who have done next to nothing... As for Hapa: I really didn't understand his townread on Wave (hence why I asked). His explanation wasn't very strong either. I know that Hapa's a strong town player, and find it hard to believe the guy would do something like this so haphazardly. The recent mislynch of Ace in my mind though reminds me that good players do dumb things. So this is a poor reason to suspect Hapa as scum. But there's more to it than that.: But there's Scum Motivation too for this action. As scum, Hapa has Wave "buddied" to sway the vote. Wave already extended out to Hapa saying he was going to buddy him, so why not take advantage of this as scum? I know he's aware of what motivates buddying, as I recall him using buddying as a casepoint before in a past game. I'm looking forward to Hapa's defense. ##FoS: Shotgun On April 14 2013 00:02 MockArmor wrote: Yes, we have reads. To expand on Hapa: We don't perceive him as scum; nor an entity to invest further time into this cycle. + Show Spoiler + In my opinion, town Hapa is quick to jump to conclusions, and just as quick to re-evaluate his reads and make his current stance visible. I think that occured today. Can you explain this, MA? You FoS Hapa because he has scum motivation for buddying me etc etc and is kinda scummy whatever. Then you call him town? Rayn: That's Mocsta for you. | ||
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raynmaster
Ivory Coast67 Posts
On April 14 2013 01:13 WaveOfCheesecake wrote: Rayn: That's Mocsta for you. Yeah im Oats  /oats | ||
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VIVAX420
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WaveOfCheesecake
109 Posts
I actually knew it was you but was referring to the hydra name :p | ||
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