EPTI dont know why alot people actually thought Jinro would win over SjoW...
Well actually I do know since Jinro got to the GSL ro4 twice but all I can say is that SjoW has the longest streak of TvT wins of all guys in SC2
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Deekin[
Serbia1713 Posts
I dont know why alot people actually thought Jinro would win over SjoW... Well actually I do know since Jinro got to the GSL ro4 twice but all I can say is that SjoW has the longest streak of TvT wins of all guys in SC2 | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
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susySquark
United States1692 Posts
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
On February 04 2011 15:51 Maenander wrote: Select said it himself that he used the lag advantage -_- Ooo wait, did he say that in the interview? I got distracted and must have missed that.. what exactly did he say? I'm a little curious how one could abuse lag. I mean, I can kinda see it, I'm just wondering how exactly. | ||
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Psylence
Canada118 Posts
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Chodes
Canada212 Posts
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Heavenly
2172 Posts
On February 04 2011 15:59 Fighter wrote: Ooo wait, did he say that in the interview? I got distracted and must have missed that.. what exactly did he say? I'm a little curious how one could abuse lag. I mean, I can kinda see it, I'm just wondering how exactly. He said that he was in the US and I believe he said he was chosen instead of Sjow, who was in Europe, because the tournament was on the NA servers. Lag can mess up timings badly and make it nearly impossible to perform high level micro when you're two seconds behind the other guy. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
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Parsistamon
United States390 Posts
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
Thanks to all that tuned in. I had so much fun casting that. I'd love feedback about my casting as well. I am always striving to improve!! | ||
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a9arnn
United States1537 Posts
On February 04 2011 15:56 Heavenly wrote: ? He kept losing micro wars, most likely due to some pretty obvious lag, having units sniped off constantly. He was pretty dominant but Select didn't really come back due to any superior mechanics, that was purely a matter of micro versus a handicapped player. The graph shows that Jinro was ahead the entire time, 19 kill banshee or not. Big congrats to SelecT but we have seen some insane micro from Jinro in the GSL, to the point that MarineKingPrime has remarked on it, and good luck persuading people that Select is better than MKP. As shown though, Jinro obviously wasn't macroing as well as he could have. There were points in each of the games when he did not have sufficient saturation at each of his bases (ex.: his 3rd base during the Metalopolis game, and the base in the Delta Quad game). Now obviously Select did use latency to his advantage, but he was also macroing more than Jinro, especially in that last game. Jinro just underestimated Select's ability to keep focus on the game from a pretty bad situation. He could have easily won, but Select pulled out a great come from behind victory. | ||
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Rabiator
Germany3948 Posts
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gaston116
Sweden73 Posts
On February 04 2011 16:04 iNcontroL wrote: Guys...that...was...fucking....amazing. Thanks to all that tuned in. I had so much fun casting that. I'd love feedback about my casting as well. I am always striving to improve!! The casting was great as always just some technical problems like the sound being out of sync, being late in the start because of sound problems, showing how long the game will be before it started. | ||
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gaston116
Sweden73 Posts
On February 04 2011 16:03 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Microing vikings in lag is a fucking joke -- What did you think of SjoWs play? | ||
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Lezt
United States115 Posts
On February 04 2011 16:05 Rabiator wrote: This match gets 12 out of 10 points for pure epicness. A true "must see" for SC2 fans and I am glad to have been there live ... agreed, I had planned to watch the whole thing, but forgot about it and tuned in to the end of the first ace match game and figured I had missed everything, but I am soooo happy that I watched the whole series | ||
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Heavenly
2172 Posts
On February 04 2011 16:04 a9arnn wrote: As shown though, Jinro obviously wasn't macroing as well as he could have. There were points in each of the games when he did not have sufficient saturation at each of his bases (ex.: his 3rd base during the Metalopolis game, and the base in the Delta Quad game). Now obviously Select did use latency to his advantage, but he was also macroing more than Jinro, especially in that last game. Jinro just underestimated Select's ability to keep focus on the game from a pretty bad situation. He could have easily won, but Select pulled out a great come from behind victory. I don't recall exactly but I think Jinro had at least one more base, maybe two. Hard to make workers when you're trying to keep up a contain and pumping units, and then I imagine from then he would just drone up hard with the two gold advantage. Jinro just said microing in lag is a joke, he had a definite mechanics advantage. Despite SelecT having more harvesters he still never broke Jinro's lead on the game until near the end. SelecT is an excellent player but that wasn't some brilliant taking-the-gold hidden expo or doom drop into his base like we've seen lose him other games while ahead. His play against MKP shut him down hard until MKP pulled out an all-or-nothing trick, I don't see SelecT having won this in a LAN setting. It was a good comeback but I honestly don't feel much hype over it's epicness when it disappointingly came down to the leading player being unable to play to his full potential. | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On February 04 2011 16:04 iNcontroL wrote: Guys...that...was...fucking....amazing. Thanks to all that tuned in. I had so much fun casting that. I'd love feedback about my casting as well. I am always striving to improve!! Did great overall. The only bit of constructive criticism would be, and this could be personal taste, but in times when you may feel overwhelmed (Octo-select) don't be afraid to use the tab menu up top to check on more rudimentary things. Now you could have been doing this the entire time and I was just paying too much attention to the action. That data could even just be another source of talking points in more mellow times. Again, just a friendly suggestion. But very good overall, and would like to see more. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On February 04 2011 16:04 iNcontroL wrote: I'd love feedback about my casting as well. I am always striving to improve!! imo the camera/missed stuff was the only stuff to complain about. maybe tell your co commentator to have a look out for it and jump in even if he has to interrupt one of your ramblings. other then that i love it. i get the same feeling like when watching tastosis, day etc commentate. fun entertainment with some good insight from someone who knows and loves the game. great war overall. totally worth watching it at 5 in the morning ~ | ||
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ranjutan
United States636 Posts
Anyway it's not like he lost to some random noobs, SeleCT and SjoW are really in the top tier of foreigners (if SeleCT counts as a foreigner anyway  ). | ||
Liquid`Sheth
United States2095 Posts
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