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JohnWayne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States150 Posts
February 04 2011 06:46 GMT
#521
On February 04 2011 15:44 Azarkon wrote:
Lag between NA and Korea is actually not supposed to be as bad as between EU and Korea. Still, I'd be interested in hearing Jinro's thoughts about those matches.

i heard otherwise, but it would be interesting to know how the ping is between the server regions
"Three o'clock is always too late or too early for anything you want to do." - Sartre
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-04 06:51:52
February 04 2011 06:47 GMT
#522
That was a super entertaining series, but man... what's with Jinro in these team tournies? The dude takes back to back ro4's in the GSL, handily beats oGsMC the WINNER of GSLs2, and then starts dropping games left and right in the foreign leagues!

I always took for granted that the Korean scene was at least a BIT better than the foreign scene, but now I'm really not so sure... is Jinro just underperforming or are the top foreigners really up there with the top Koreans?

edit: A lot of people are mentioning lag. I guess that could definitely explain Jinro's disapointing performances in these team leagues since nearly every series (unless TL plays Prime I guess) could potentially lag for him. : /
For Aiur???
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
February 04 2011 06:47 GMT
#523
I guess it kinda sucks that TL only has 1 player in the US where the tournament is staged ;p
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
February 04 2011 06:48 GMT
#524
To much WoW Tyler,
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
February 04 2011 06:49 GMT
#525
On February 04 2011 15:47 Fighter wrote:
That was a super entertaining series, but man... what's with Jinro in these team tournies? The dude takes back to back ro4's in the GSL, handily beats oGsMC the WINNER of GSLs2, and then starts dropping games left and right in the foreign leagues!

I always took for granted that the Korean scene was at least a BIT better than the foreign scene, but now I'm really not so sure... is Jinro just underperforming or are the top foreigners really up there with the top Koreans?


There's a reason why Huk refuses to play in foreign tournaments. It's the lag. Terran is a micro intensive race. Lag just sucks.
Don't mind me
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
February 04 2011 06:49 GMT
#526
On February 04 2011 15:46 InRainbows wrote:
lag or no lag, he still came back from a HUGE deficit. That was seriously the best comeback I've ever seen.

I don't want to diminish Select's play, because Select did play great, but the entire match basically was decided when Select moved in to the gold and killed all of the scvs. Jinro had already been playing pretty sloppily but he could have easily won riding his econ advantage, if only his scvs hadn't been killed.
trashcan
Profile Joined November 2010
Mauritania56 Posts
February 04 2011 06:49 GMT
#527
Game really showed that mechanics still counts. No offense to Jinro but Select is obviously the superior player mechanically.
Juxx
Profile Joined April 2010
325 Posts
February 04 2011 06:50 GMT
#528
Octopus terran!
Grubby Fighting!
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-04 06:51:13
February 04 2011 06:50 GMT
#529
LOL. SelecT saying it like a boss. "I don't think I can say my team is best, but yeah my team is the best" ^_^

Go Octopus Terran.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
February 04 2011 06:51 GMT
#530
On February 04 2011 15:49 trashcan wrote:
Game really showed that mechanics still counts. No offense to Jinro but Select is obviously the superior player mechanically.

Select said it himself that he used the lag advantage -_-
meowmasta
Profile Joined September 2010
146 Posts
February 04 2011 06:52 GMT
#531
On February 04 2011 15:50 Juxx wrote:
Octopus terran!


Haha that is such a great nick for him! He has his tentacles harassing you in many different places at once
JPSke
Profile Joined August 2010
United States54 Posts
February 04 2011 06:52 GMT
#532
I hope Select heads back to Korea for the June GSL or whenever GSL 6 is.
Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
February 04 2011 06:53 GMT
#533
Octopus Terran. Love it!
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
February 04 2011 06:54 GMT
#534
And a new nickname is born..

Octopus Terran haha
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
February 04 2011 06:54 GMT
#535
Quality games and quality casting. Can't ask for much more.

Hahaha, it's gonna be awesome when Incontrol's announcement is like "$300 tourney" and it causes a lynch mob on teamliquid.
Jombozeus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
China1014 Posts
February 04 2011 06:54 GMT
#536
For those who haven't played with cross-server lag before, here's the problem.
Not only the micro is the problem, it takes a massive toll on your macro.

For example, when you make 20 marines in region server, it takes 3 seconds of spamming. From Asia to NA, it takes double the time. All that adds up to an intolerable level that puts you off all your timings. If you've never played under this condition, dont. It sucks.
cangiz
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada286 Posts
February 04 2011 06:55 GMT
#537
On February 04 2011 15:51 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2011 15:49 trashcan wrote:
Game really showed that mechanics still counts. No offense to Jinro but Select is obviously the superior player mechanically.

Select said it himself that he used the lag advantage -_-



You can't base anything on one game lol.
Dubai
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-04 06:56:26
February 04 2011 06:55 GMT
#538
It really seemed like Jinro was tired after the first ace match. He played absolutely immaculately in set 1 of the ace, but he lost the next two games through some rather sloppy mistakes and some lucky banshees from Select. I have a feeling that Jinro's best wasn't shown tonight, and Select capitalized on this by being all over the place and harassing the crap out of an already fatigued Jinro.

Anyways, this was a very nice clan match, especially the ace matches. Some of the best macro-based TvTs ever played in SC2.

I'm glad I caught this clan war, even if it meant missing a homework deadline by over one hour.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-04 06:57:20
February 04 2011 06:56 GMT
#539
On February 04 2011 15:49 trashcan wrote:
Game really showed that mechanics still counts. No offense to Jinro but Select is obviously the superior player mechanically.


?

He kept losing micro wars, most likely due to some pretty obvious lag, having units sniped off constantly. He was pretty dominant but Select didn't really come back due to any superior mechanics, that was purely a matter of micro versus a handicapped player. The graph shows that Jinro was ahead the entire time, 19 kill banshee or not. Big congrats to SelecT but we have seen some insane micro from Jinro in the GSL, to the point that MarineKingPrime has remarked on it, and good luck persuading people that Select is better than MKP.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Seki Santoku
Profile Joined July 2010
United States105 Posts
February 04 2011 06:56 GMT
#540
beautiful ace match, grats to select, but great games played by both players.
"LiquidNony fighting"
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