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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2008 08:05 GMT
#5181
I was joking about sureshot

With only 1 critical vote no matter what tomorrow, I say we go for the Mandalor list and pick from there. By now we have a great amount of info on who is innocent on that list, and I'm sure we can easily hit a mafia target at will by now.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 29 2008 08:30 GMT
#5182
On April 29 2008 17:05 Ace wrote:
I was joking about sureshot

With only 1 critical vote no matter what tomorrow, I say we go for the Mandalor list and pick from there. By now we have a great amount of info on who is innocent on that list, and I'm sure we can easily hit a mafia target at will by now.
you make it sound easy~~

clazziquai
ZBiR
suresh0t
Lysithea
Ninja4ever
SoleSteeler
Jimtudor
zeks
SoMuchBetter
ieatkids5

may i suggest SMB, ieatkids or clazziquai
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2008 08:32 GMT
#5183
Ninja4ever man

What was the evidence against ieatkids5 again? I think he was another sound suspect.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
April 29 2008 08:32 GMT
#5184
and SoleSteeler too
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
April 29 2008 08:41 GMT
#5185
Maaan, mafia take their time again. How come town can interpret clues, build up evidence, agree on a candidate and vote on him within two days, while mafia fails to type up six fucking names in four days?
Chuiu, I suggest you issue an ultimatum. Should mafia not make haste and send a goddamn list until, say, tomorrow, please select a kill list at random (maybe with only 5 kills as a punishment?) so we can finally carry on. Mafia's slowness starts to annoy me.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
April 29 2008 08:49 GMT
#5186
On April 29 2008 17:32 Ace wrote:
Ninja4ever man

What was the evidence against ieatkids5 again? I think he was another sound suspect.


His quote reffered to lazyness, and mr.white always comes in last or late to finish off.
sAviOr...
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-29 08:52:37
April 29 2008 08:51 GMT
#5187
On April 29 2008 17:32 Ace wrote:
What was the evidence against ieatkids5 again? I think he was another sound suspect.


ieatkids5 as Mr. White:
+ Show Spoiler [Reasoning] +

His quote reads, "Procrastination - Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now." All scenes in which Mr. White is active, he shows up last in. This is more particularly noted in Day 2 and Day 7 than in Day 4. As well as being the last to show up, he has only once engaged in a fight directly. All other times he only shows up at the end to make the finishing blow. I believe this is a strong connection. There are numerous possible references to Mr. White being lazy as well.



If we're sticking to those suspects specifically, I'm split between Clazziquai and ieatkids5, with Ninja and suresh0t trailing a short bit behind them.
Think. :)
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 29 2008 10:15 GMT
#5188
as a strategic lynch i'd like to see SMB rot as well, he's active on the site (really active), avoids this thread, and is a big candidate for cali

Clazz i think is best saved for a double lynch with 0zc7c
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
April 29 2008 10:41 GMT
#5189
I'm really not sure of SoMuchBetter being Mafia. I think his inactivity is more explained by him not getting Mayor and Ghar, who he apparently knows in real life and tried to defend despite town being dead-set on lynching him (a big thing I don't see a Mafia doing so early in the game, trying to save a seemingly 100% guilty townie), getting taken out.
Think. :)
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 29 2008 11:31 GMT
#5190
fair enough, it's not like we're running short of people to lynch - its more about who's the best candidate to knock off XD
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
April 29 2008 12:08 GMT
#5191
On April 29 2008 17:41 Scorch wrote:
Maaan, mafia take their time again. How come town can interpret clues, build up evidence, agree on a candidate and vote on him within two days, while mafia fails to type up six fucking names in four days?
Chuiu, I suggest you issue an ultimatum. Should mafia not make haste and send a goddamn list until, say, tomorrow, please select a kill list at random (maybe with only 5 kills as a punishment?) so we can finally carry on. Mafia's slowness starts to annoy me.


Or just no kills because time wouldn't wait for them if this was really going on. You ended day within 2 days how come mafia gets all this time?
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
April 29 2008 14:19 GMT
#5192
Settle down I got the list, Day will be up tonight when I have time to write it.
♞
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
April 29 2008 19:34 GMT
#5193
no

do it now!
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
April 29 2008 20:00 GMT
#5194
On April 29 2008 23:19 Chuiu wrote:
Settle down I got the list, Day will be up tonight when I have time to write it.

*rawr* im angry grrrrrrrrrrrrr !!!!
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
HotZhot
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Colombia677 Posts
April 29 2008 20:02 GMT
#5195
You are the man Chuiu, writing those night post must be though
I only smile in the darK [] sAviOr//JaeDong Fan 4 Ever ~ CJ Entusman # 7
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
April 29 2008 20:12 GMT
#5196
Yay night tonight.
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
April 30 2008 03:49 GMT
#5197
[image loading]
Smiling from the roof of the gas station Joe was ready to make his kill. It was all planned out, Naib would exit after he closed the store and Joe would jump him from above and knock him out cold instantly then hang him from the wall. Unfortunately for Joe he hadn't expected Naib to exit out the back of the building. He was quite confused as he saw Joe getting into his car parked on the side so he ran over and jumped onto the top of the car causing a huge indentation. Naib got out of his car as fast as he could to see Joe standing up. Joe then kicked Naib in the face, being in the perfect spot to do so and looked inside Naib's car for a weapon to use. He found a glass bottle and broke off the end of it. As Naib was getting up he slashed him repeatedly with the end of the bottle and kicked him back to the ground. Joe finished Naib off by stabbing him through the heart with the jagged end of the bottle.

Last Romantic was driving around looking for a bar still open late night when he finally found one, or thought he did. The Wolf was waiting inside the cleverly disguised building and had a gun ready for ambush. As Last Romantic walked in he approached The Wolf and ordered a drink. The Wolf served him and a minute or two passed by before he realized the bar was completely empty except for him and The Wolf. Finally he got up and asked why there were no other customers. The Wolf pointed to the door where Eddie stood, Last Romantic noticed it was locked up and the lights on the front were off. He took it that the bar was closing and he should leave so he got up and headed to Eddie expecting him to open the door but Eddie stopped him instead and pointed back at The Wolf. Finally The Wolf ended the charade and shot Last Romantic in the head.

Zeks and AcrossFiveJulys were cruising around town hoping they could find some mafia up to no good. They found what was supposed to be an abandoned warehouse but the lights were on. Thinking it had mafia hideout written all over it they decided to go in. The door was locked however, so Zeks pounded on it until someone came to answer. Mr. Brown opened the door and he and Mr. Pink walked out. "I hope you guys were looking for trouble because you just found it" said Mr. Pink and they both threw punches at their respective targets. Mr. Brown landed punch after punch on AcrossFiveJulys who was doing poorly to defend himself. Zeks put up a bit of a fight as he took on Mr. Pink, but Mr. Pink was determined to make him feel some pain. He finally got him into a corner and pulled out a can and a lighter. Mr. Pink emptied the contents of the can onto Zeks and lit him on fire. Zeks tried to put the fire out by rolling on the ground but it kept burning. He was about to get up and pull off his clothes but Mr. Pink decided he had suffered enough and knocked Zeks unconscious and let him burn to death. AcrossFiveJulys was laying on the ground dead also, beaten to death by Mr. Brown and he accompanies Mr. Pink back into the building humming a little tune to get his mind off the violence.

Mr. Black approached the last target for the night, GrayArea. He found him taking out the trash before going to bed that night and ambushed him as he headed back. Throwing some foul smelling bones from the trash at GrayArea he got his attention. GrayArea saw what was left of the dinner he caught on the ground and no sooner did he notice Mr. Black than was he already being attacked by him. Mr. Black drove a knife through GrayArea's arm and it sent him flinching back. He grabbed his arm and ran back towards the house to try to get help or call the cops. But Mr. Black sprinted after him and stabbed again in his back. GrayArea convulsed from the attack and fell to the ground. GrayArea had no escape at this point and Mr. Black finished him off by stabbing him through the heart from the back to finish him.

[noCluesArea]
Time to lynch someone! When voting I would like you to use this thread:

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=70487

As common courtesy to other players posting your vote in this thread also makes it easier for everyone to see which side you're on as you make your decisions. A vote count will be done tomorrow sometime and I will move to night the day after that. Remember that you must vote or declare you abstain if you're unsure who to vote for or whatever reasons you may have to to stay in the game.
♞
Eti307
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Canada3442 Posts
April 30 2008 03:51 GMT
#5198
oh nice no blues!
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-30 03:53:08
April 30 2008 03:52 GMT
#5199


WHYYYYYYYYY

I LOVE YOU ALL WHY DO YOU KILL ME

I'm a blue :o
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5414 Posts
April 30 2008 03:53 GMT
#5200
Since I'm still a suspect, I'll do a bit of counter-counter-analysis to Plexa from several pages back: (sorry if this format of this post sucks, it's hard to quote what you wrote)

On April 21 2008 21:17 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
Mr. Pink responded by reminding them that death was now a normal thing in Liquidia.

could refer back to the first day post, but it can also refer to the fact death is something that is normal to Mr Pink - because he needs it to survive (my argument)

Sorry, it seems to be a stretch. I still feel it's rather a "cold, calculating" way of describing the current situation, which can still fit in with an "evil demon", but it can easily fit in with just someone who appears to be to me, to be a "cold, skilled fighter".

He struck him down with ease and met gaze with Mr. Pink right away but wasn't prepared for the punch to the face soon after.
A mirror of what OneBlueAugust had just done to sidewinder

Yogurt had thrown a rock that struck Black Mamba in the face with much ease. Eddie, the fourth man, defended him and sprinted toward Yogurt expecting an easy fight. He was surprised to find that, although quite drunk, Yogurt had only lost the capacity to feel pain. With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter. Eddie made a lucky kick knocking Yogurt to the ground and went back to Black Mamba to get some help.
Yogurt is quite an able fighter - an aspect which is later mirrored in Mr Pink


I think this is a problem. Sidewinder is sickly, that's why Yogurt is able to knock him down. Then he comes across Mr. Pink -- an "able fighter", and he is defeated.


OneBlueAugust was getting up ready to fight Mr. Pink but slipped on some gooey substance on the ground. Sidewinder was still on the ground but Mr. Pink had found a weapon to use against OneBlueAugust. Using the long hair as a handle and the head as a weight Mr. Pink smashed OneBlueAugust continually with Mynocks head. OneBlueAugust crawled past the substance he had slipped on and stumbled to his feet as Mr. Pink ditched Mynocks now misshaped and broken head to the side. Mr. Pink found the rest of the fight easy as OneBlueAugust struggled to defend himself against an able fighter.
Obviously Mr Pink has attain this quality from Yogurt as before he just dealt a single punch - without following it up with blow after blow - but here is the kicker;

Blow after blow came and finally OneBlueAugust fell to the ground with no strength left to live.
OneBlueAugust is tapped of his own life energy - Mr Pink stole it


Why is it obvious that Mr. Pink obtained this from Yogurt? Yogurt is drunk and full of courage, this is clearly indicated: "No fear though, they had each had their share of the drink that evening and were ready to fight an army if one would present itself", it is not him being "able"; Mr. Pink is the able fighter right away, as he gets a punch in on Yogurt immediately after Yogurt knocks down sidewinder. Yes, it also says: "With each attack Yogurt made a crazy and elaborate counter.", but even then there is no mention of Mr. Pink mirroring this; rather, he is already stronger than Yogurt. Since Yogurt is basically fighting 4v1 (4v2?), he is going to be tired. Especially since he's drunk, it's rare to get more than a burst of energy that lasts a short while when you're drunk.

Coincidentally Fishball had been looking for those darts and was turning around the corner just after it happened. He gasped in shock as he saw the corpse and immediately ran to call for help. He almost there when he saw two mafia in his way. Mr. Pink and Mr. Brown were standing just in front of his phone and as he glanced at it Mr. Brown picked it up and said "oh you want this?" and smashed it on the table breaking it in two. "Sorry we can't have you doing that, allow me to introduce myself I'm Mr. Brown and my quiet friend here is Mr. Pink. We're here to kill you." said Mr. Brown as he pulled a gun out of his coat. Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.
While this day is 90% Mr Brown acting, there are a couple key lines for Mr Pink

quiet friend here is Mr. Pink.
Very inetering to note is that on day 1 mr pink spoke, day 2 mr pink said something - but it wasn't explicitly said and today he whispers to Mr Brown

Fishball was stricken with fear, he got on his knees and begged for their mercy. Mr. Pink said something to Mr. Brown and instead of shooting Fishball, they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious. Fishball died a few hours later to internal bleeding.
This is a rather peculiar aspect about mr Pink, the question is why would you attack someone begging for mercy in such a manner to let them die in a slow painful death. The key part here imo

they viciously beat him till he fell unconscious
Once again Mr Pink has tapped his life forces and caused him to lose consciousness


Why is he draining his life here? He's beating him into unconsciousness, isn't that explicitly stated? When someone is viciously beaten, they fall unconscious. Still, you asked a good question: why attack someone begging for mercy? I am saying that Mr. Pink is a brutal man, as evident by his actions. He's also skilled at fighting.


Mr. Brown and Mr. Pink were hunting their own prey that night. They were stalking down the street where shadowdrgn had previously been killed trying to find clues to the man responsible. It was obvious to them he was a threat as he was trying to find out who they were to kill. They found the crime scene and walked closer to get a better look. But as they approached it they noticed a man walking away. Both wondering who he was they decided they would instead find out by killing him right there. Mr. Brown called out to him as they ran towards his direction but BloodyC0bbler couldn't understand a word he was saying. BloodyC0bbler stopped to face them and tried to figure out what the ruckus was all about when he saw the looks on their faces. BloodyC0bbler decided it was best to run from them instead and started heading toward his car parked a couple blocks down. He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground. Mr. Brown snagged a rather sharp stone from someones yard decoration and quickly caught up. Mr. Pink held BloodyC0bbler down as Mr. Brown smashed the stone several times into his skull. They were quite satisfied to see BloodyC0bbler's corpse turn blue as they headed back to mafia HQ.

The first thing which struck me in this clue was

Mr. Brown and Mr. Pink were hunting their own prey that night.
Which instantly makes me think that Mr Pink is either some kind of animal, or he feasts on humans. This is also the first time that Mr Pink has been introduced before the victim. This is followed up immediately by

They were stalking down the street where shadowdrgn had previously been killed trying to find clues to the man responsible.
stalking being defined as

1. A hunt for game carried on by following it stealthily or waiting in ambush
2. The act of following prey stealthily
Which tie nicely in with the idea that Mr Pink is hunting for food

He almost already felt himself dying as he ran as hard as he could
This is the pivotal clue in this day - the fact that BC is dying before he is even struck. Much like the other victims of Mr Pink their life force is leaving them before they die.

but Mr. Pink eventually caught up to him first and tackled him to the ground.
Mr pink suddenly has acquired the trait of being fast - probably from leeching BC


Why not mention that Mr. Brown is also stalking a prey? Since it's attributed to two mafia, it seems that it's mainly the writer being a bit creative. As far as I can tell (feel free to correct me), BC is not shown as being fast. The fact that Mr. Pink "eventually" catches up with BC means that he probably is just faster in general than him. Remember he is clearly in good "shape", for killing and fighting at least; it's not a stretch to assume that he's a quick runner as well. Killers often need to catch victims, or flee a crime scene etc.

I will admit the fact that he feels himself dying before Mr. Pink even touches him might be attributed to life draining, but it's also that he might know of Mr. Pink's reputation, and knows that he doesn't stand a chance, so he thinks of himself as good as dead. If I was being chased by someone who appears to be an efficient, cold-blooded killer, I would think of myself as dead before I was even touched too.

Here are the options;
  • Mr Pink is some sort of animal
  • Mr Pink is some kind of superhuman
  • Or, that he is leeching the life force of his victims (most likely)

No suspects come up under the first two headings, however SoleSteeler comes up under the third and ties in nicely with all the evidence/lists that we have at our disposal.

While our links for Mr Pink are weaker than a number of other suspects, by the time it comes to SoleSteeler being lynched we should have a lot more evidence all ready to examine and judge whether this analysis holds.


Superhuman sure, you could say it like that, or you can simply say he's an able fighter (as stated explicitly) and is coldblooded (smashing people's faces into the ground, killing people begging for mercy, uses a head as a weapon etc.)

Anyways, I hope you guys are willing to wait a couple more days to see some more clues. I do believe that my name will be cleared. I also will admit I don't have anyone to point to right now, but hopefully we can focus on much more damning clues first?



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