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On August 23 2012 05:24 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 05:13 Kville wrote:
Ok sorry,
Reason im not scum in order by my filter
-I was thrown under bus becuase i was supposed lurker
-Tried to counter the vote and suspected marv based on his recent one liners and random lynch on me
-All i tired to do was end the accusations on me
-Turned heads towards shady based on filters between VE and shady even more so since the recent ones came out.
-obvious filters seem out of ordinary as well same as marvs
Im not a scum just quick reaction responses becuase of the scenario and place i was at (school).
If anything im liking VEs choice and the way he is basing his decisions.
Thrown under the bus? Who threw you under the bus? Your defense is: --people are picking on me --I tried to defend but I was at school/afk --point fingers at shady, obvious, and marv (forgetting about the other lurker, talis? or are you not looking at lurkers anymore?)--then saying "fuck it, im just gna sheep VE" and finally a semi-slip by using the phrase thrown under the bus This is either terribad town play or... terribad scum play. It's so off the scale, i'm not even sure how to read it
Did you not just whine at me about this? JUST NOW SHADY?
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On August 23 2012 05:24 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 05:23 talismania wrote:
dear lord what happened there.
I think I typed in the quote:
"continuing my trend of what? I never vote early D1. I'm not a fan of how my name keeps floating up for seemingly no reason." Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 23:47 marvellosity wrote:I'm quite suspicious of talis; a lot of his posts have this... touchy-feely-careful feel to them. " Actually to be completely honest", "this suggestion felt to me", "which is how I initially read it", and On August 22 2012 08:51 talismania wrote:
Actually, VE do you really want to push palmar? I may be reading things completely wrong but I get the impression you're just using him as a tool to poke newbies with (no offense, newbies).
intriguing. anyone else out there with posting mannerisms thjat have caught your attention?
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On August 23 2012 05:26 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 05:24 Shady Sands wrote:On August 23 2012 05:13 Kville wrote:
Ok sorry,
Reason im not scum in order by my filter
-I was thrown under bus becuase i was supposed lurker
-Tried to counter the vote and suspected marv based on his recent one liners and random lynch on me
-All i tired to do was end the accusations on me
-Turned heads towards shady based on filters between VE and shady even more so since the recent ones came out.
-obvious filters seem out of ordinary as well same as marvs
Im not a scum just quick reaction responses becuase of the scenario and place i was at (school).
If anything im liking VEs choice and the way he is basing his decisions.
Thrown under the bus? Who threw you under the bus? Your defense is: --people are picking on me --I tried to defend but I was at school/afk --point fingers at shady, obvious, and marv (forgetting about the other lurker, talis? or are you not looking at lurkers anymore?)--then saying "fuck it, im just gna sheep VE" and finally a semi-slip by using the phrase thrown under the bus This is either terribad town play or... terribad scum play. It's so off the scale, i'm not even sure how to read it Did you not just whine at me about this? JUST NOW SHADY?
Yeah, but at least I gave some damn good reasons for tunneling KVille like a railroad engineer and dropping my focus on lurkers. KV, on the other hand, didn't.
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Also, VE, note that my point was part of a slew of other scumpoints that KVille had accumulated. Your case on me was built on only the point that I'd shifted from lynch-lurker to tunnel-KV.
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On August 23 2012 05:25 talismania wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 05:00 marvellosity wrote:
VE, go read the first cycle of my game for homework.
doesn't give me a townread on shady but it stops me from having the scumread that you have. what is this? Are you completely neutral on him? I can see being completely neutral on some other players in the game but he's stuck out so much it's hard not to classify him into one camp or the other.
I would lean town side of null, due to his activity levels and he was less controversial than he was as scum in XXIII. VE gives the scum-side well enough. It's why I want more time with him.
What do you make of Lvdr and Kville now he's posted his "I got home" post? I was expecting some scumhunting from Kville but instead only got a terribad defence. They're my two red reads at the moment.
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EBWOP: *and he was less controversial as scum in XXIII
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On August 23 2012 05:40 Shady Sands wrote:
Also, VE, note that my point was part of a slew of other scumpoints that KVille had accumulated. Your case on me was built on only the point that I'd shifted from lynch-lurker to tunnel-KV.
This is patently false. I had you as a scum-read before you even came back into the thread Shady.
This is Shady claiming scum everyone, please take note and vote accordingly.
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Greetings town,
Not Chezinu is back. When I was reading the thread I noticed a lack of accusations and name calling, except that provided by VE. Good work! We need to scare the mafia and make them think we are serious about lynching them and their teammates. We have to act quickly and turn mafia into a panic so that they out of desperation attempt to save their fellow mafia neglecting all long term goals by exposing themselves. I have develop techniques with my persona Chezinu to do this. Day 1 I troll for the first 24 hours goofing around and getting everyone's guard down. I play dumb and act scummy.. so scummy that scum thinks I'm an easy target and try to lynch me. Then the vets notice that it is my usual fishing methods and defend me while attacking the first one who accuses me. It is normal a mafia member who never played a game with me. However, I couldn't troll and act scummy this game because I am playing the sane game. I couldn't call obvious an obvious scum not shady a shady scum. So, I had to devise a new method to catch scum. If you don't gather reactions within the game your playing, you have to rely on others to do it for you. Or you will have to go research people's meta in past games which can be a real pain. I have decided not to do the latter. But I did not want to heavily rely on other people to get mafia to panic. So, I have come up with a plan that I cannot disclose at this time. Fear me mafia, for I have won.
PS: What are your methods to find scum?
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Note to self: I must change my habits of not proofreading my posts since I am playing the sane game.
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I suppose my comment about being controversial should have been followed by an intention to play straight up. I haven't done anything crazy right?
Regarding Shady, I have a null/town read on him based on his interactions (tunneling) with kville. I don't think he would be a good lynch target for d1because if he is scum we can smoke him out later based on his activity.
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On August 23 2012 05:49 Chezinu wrote:
Greetings town,
Not Chezinu is back. When I was reading the thread I noticed a lack of accusations and name calling, except that provided by VE. Good work! We need to scare the mafia and make them think we are serious about lynching them and their teammates. We have to act quickly and turn mafia into a panic so that they out of desperation attempt to save their fellow mafia neglecting all long term goals by exposing themselves. I have develop techniques with my persona Chezinu to do this. Day 1 I troll for the first 24 hours goofing around and getting everyone's guard down. I play dumb and act scummy.. so scummy that scum thinks I'm an easy target and try to lynch me. Then the vets notice that it is my usual fishing methods and defend me while attacking the first one who accuses me. It is normal a mafia member who never played a game with me. However, I couldn't troll and act scummy this game because I am playing the sane game. I couldn't call obvious an obvious scum not shady a shady scum. So, I had to devise a new method to catch scum. If you don't gather reactions within the game your playing, you have to rely on others to do it for you. Or you will have to go research people's meta in past games which can be a real pain. I have decided not to do the latter. But I did not want to heavily rely on other people to get mafia to panic. So, I have come up with a plan that I cannot disclose at this time. Fear me mafia, for I have won.
PS: What are your methods to find scum?
This post contains nothing. Not a single scumread, not an opinion of what's going on, no observations about players...this is the same as not posting at all imo.
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On August 23 2012 05:47 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 05:40 Shady Sands wrote:
Also, VE, note that my point was part of a slew of other scumpoints that KVille had accumulated. Your case on me was built on only the point that I'd shifted from lynch-lurker to tunnel-KV. This is patently false. I had you as a scum-read before you even came back into the thread Shady. This is Shady claiming scum everyone, please take note and vote accordingly.
Your scum-reads before I came back into the thread were incoherent (kind of like Chezinu's post above), so I ignored those. Your accusation after I came back into the thread made some sense so I responded to it and I remember it.
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On August 23 2012 05:51 Lvdr wrote:
I suppose my comment about being controversial should have been followed by an intention to play straight up. I haven't done anything crazy right?
Regarding Shady, I have a null/town read on him based on his interactions (tunneling) with kville. I don't think he would be a good lynch target for d1because if he is scum we can smoke him out later based on his activity.
so who *would* make a good target?
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@VE It is entirely possible Shady misunderstood your suspicions. In my last few games we have had to deal with a lot of suspicious Bad townies. This is what shady looks like me right now.
This is Shady claiming scum everyone, please take note and vote accordingly.
This statement is really over the top. You seem too experienced to push this as town; therefore I find your behavior scummy.
##Vote: VisceraEyes
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On August 23 2012 05:23 talismania wrote:
dear lord what happened there.
I think I typed in the quote:
"continuing my trend of what? I never vote early D1. I'm not a fan of how my name keeps floating up for seemingly no reason."
FYI, what are your top scumreads at the moment? Anyone deserving of an FoS or vote?
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Also in a show of great irony I second VE's analysis of chez's post.
Scum hate making their own cases. It is much easier to get on board someone else's. Chez seems to be explicitly asking to do just this.
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On August 23 2012 05:57 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 05:47 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 23 2012 05:40 Shady Sands wrote:
Also, VE, note that my point was part of a slew of other scumpoints that KVille had accumulated. Your case on me was built on only the point that I'd shifted from lynch-lurker to tunnel-KV. This is patently false. I had you as a scum-read before you even came back into the thread Shady. This is Shady claiming scum everyone, please take note and vote accordingly. Your scum-reads before I came back into the thread were incoherent (kind of like Chezinu's post above), so I ignored those. Your accusation after I came back into the thread made some sense so I responded to it and I remember it.
Oh really?
On August 22 2012 12:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
YOU'RE ALL SUSPICIOUS.
Yes, even you.
But we have a common enemy. One who cares not for finding scum, who cares for nothing but himself. I'll tell you his name.
Shady Sands
Whatever you think of me, I can assure you this one means you harm. Hide your kids. HIDE YOUR WIVES!!!!!
On August 22 2012 12:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Throughout his filter, Shady Sands does nothing but fling baseless suspicion around the thread at anyone posting for any reason. Go look for yourself, he literally hasn't said anything of substance for me to quote as proof. Every post he makes is a leading, accusatory, one-time interaction with someone in the thread...or arguing with marvellosity. Never have we seen a read or an opinion of his own. Even in arguing with marvellosity I don't get the feeling that Shady thinks marv is scum - and that DOMINATES his filter.
##Unvote
##Vote Shady Sands
This was before you entered the thread. So you're either not reading the thread (my guess) or you're blatantly and maliciously misrepresenting the facts. Which is it Shady?
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On August 23 2012 05:58 Lvdr wrote:@VE It is entirely possible Shady misunderstood your suspicions. In my last few games we have had to deal with a lot of suspicious Bad townies. This is what shady looks like me right now. Show nested quote +This is Shady claiming scum everyone, please take note and vote accordingly. This statement is really over the top. You seem too experienced to push this as town; therefore I find your behavior scummy. ##Vote: VisceraEyes
I have no idea as to VE's meta, so I'd hesitate to make a read like this. If he's scum, he's playing very fast and loose for one.
That being said, though, VE I find your waffling between me and KVille kind of strange. If KVille looks really scummy to you, and I look really scummy to you, how does that make sense when I started tunneling KV aggressively before he really came up on anyone's radar? (Especially when I could have rando-voted another lurker instead of piliing on the train?)
I just want to get your thoughts on that, since there may be something I haven't caught yet and you are (according to people in XXII) one of the best mafia players here.
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ebwop: by XXII, I meant newbie XXII.
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On August 23 2012 06:03 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 05:57 Shady Sands wrote:On August 23 2012 05:47 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 23 2012 05:40 Shady Sands wrote:
Also, VE, note that my point was part of a slew of other scumpoints that KVille had accumulated. Your case on me was built on only the point that I'd shifted from lynch-lurker to tunnel-KV. This is patently false. I had you as a scum-read before you even came back into the thread Shady. This is Shady claiming scum everyone, please take note and vote accordingly. Your scum-reads before I came back into the thread were incoherent (kind of like Chezinu's post above), so I ignored those. Your accusation after I came back into the thread made some sense so I responded to it and I remember it. Oh really? Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 12:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
YOU'RE ALL SUSPICIOUS.
Yes, even you.
But we have a common enemy. One who cares not for finding scum, who cares for nothing but himself. I'll tell you his name.
Shady Sands
Whatever you think of me, I can assure you this one means you harm. Hide your kids. HIDE YOUR WIVES!!!!! Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 12:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Throughout his filter, Shady Sands does nothing but fling baseless suspicion around the thread at anyone posting for any reason. Go look for yourself, he literally hasn't said anything of substance for me to quote as proof. Every post he makes is a leading, accusatory, one-time interaction with someone in the thread...or arguing with marvellosity. Never have we seen a read or an opinion of his own. Even in arguing with marvellosity I don't get the feeling that Shady thinks marv is scum - and that DOMINATES his filter.
##Unvote
##Vote Shady Sands This was before you entered the thread. So you're either not reading the thread (my guess) or you're blatantly and maliciously misrepresenting the facts. Which is it Shady?
Your first post there is empty. Your second post is based on posts from the first half of D1, a grand total of only a few posts from me when most people hadn't even started serious discussions yet. Basically, your second post was non-indicative of anything, so I didn't think it was important. I'm sorry if you think it is.
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