[S] Shadowed Mini Mafia: The Reboot - Page 22

On February 07 2014 08:49 suki wrote:
##unvote King Balla
##vote Jaybrundage

What the hell are you seriously posting a super-serious-scum-hunt long ass post with quotes and reasoning two hours into the game? Take a CHILL PILL man.

Holy shit. Why the hell are you in such a rush to find scum out of the first four people who have entered the thread. This attitude is completely different from last game and I don't mean that in a good way.

On February 07 2014 08:58 suki wrote:
It's not the action but the motives.

Posting a long ass scum case this early just screams try-hard scum look at me I'm hunting scum! Why do you have to prove yourself this early as town, forcing a pure meta "koshi should be happy but he's not" argument to say that Koshi is definitely scum?

On February 07 2014 09:08 suki wrote:




Bahhhh bahhhhh.

Anyways it's kind of mean for me to troll you. But the hole you're digging yourself in is going straight to china at this rate. Maybe take a break because this Balla+Koshi chainsaw defense scum theory is not doing you any favours.

On February 07 2014 13:51 suki wrote:
Regarding people's concerns that I'm not scum hunting, I was just having fun at the beginning of the game. So, you can decide if I'm scum hunting or not going forward.



I skimmed JayB's case and didn't like it. I don't see the point in meta reading someone off of their pre-game content, or meta reading them 2 hours into the game as the game is still getting started.

What threw me off was that he put in a ton of effort trying to find every little thing he could in order to paint Koshi as scum. He basically became super sure that Koshi was scum off of a weak case. He had already stated that he was going to scum hunt and he was hunting so hard it just felt forced and contrived.

In other words, I didn't care about the case that he made, or the fact that it was made early, I cared about what motivations he could have had when making that case. Does it make more sense for town to hard tunnel someone off a weak case and try to make them look scummy, or does it make more sense for scum? The fact that the case was made so early is just a bonus point against a town scum-hunting mindset.

In my opinion, it's more scummy to take this line of action. Thus I voted Jay.


On Koshi

Koshi has talked the talk. He just needs to walk the walk.

His attitude is different in this game than last. He's more confident and more 'willing' to be active and contribute.

If he doesn't hold up his end of the deal then he's an easy lynch.

Other than that he hasn't done anything so I am waiting for his contributions when he returns.

On February 07 2014 14:50 suki wrote:
I've had a skim through most of the people in this thread and I want to bring people's attention to one person in particular:

Sidesprang

Sidesprang is not a high-quantity player. This is true throughout all his games.

I noticed something when I was reading his posts while catching up, and this notion became stronger when I reread his filter.

With this notion in mind, I then looked up his game history. I found 3 town games and 1 mafia game.

Meta analysis in spoiler:
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Now my point with this case is not to say that sidesprang is totes scum, but rather to point out some observations that I've made that make it seem that he is in a different mindset this game, and that this mindset makes him more likely scum.

sidesprang's attitude this game feels different from his town games.

He asks 'Are you basing your scum read on Suki just off meta atm?' then spends two large posts talking about how my meta is different and basically soft-defending me.

I'm used to sidesprang asking tough questions, questions whose answers have meaning. It's kind of subtle but I feel like if sidesprang really cared about Aquanim's answer he would have waited for Aqua's reply.

The other thing I noticed is that when he talked about Jay, he talked directly to Jay 'Regarding your Koshi case.. you better get more meat on it ... I think it's too early to call you scum...'

In all of his town games he has always referred to other players as 'this guy' and spoke about them in the third person. Not once did he ever directly write an analysis against someone as if he was talking to them. A weak point but just something that caught my eye.

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This is admittedly a lot of words to describe a few subtle things. However there was just something different about sidesprang this game, and I wanted to explore it. Now that I have I want to share this information and just keep a closer eye on him.

The fact that so much has happened in the thread and sidesprang has only called Jay scummy is something that is different than his previous town games.

The fact that he spends a lot of time discussing my meta feels like he's playing this game with a different mindset, one that's not so focused on scum hunting and more focused on looking like he's contributing. In fact, in the previous three town games that I skimmed I didn't see one instance of him defending a player. All his efforts were on scum hunting.

So. Conclusion: Sidesprang is scummy because his approach to this game is different, which can be seen as scummy for the reasons expressed above. We should keep a close eye on him and see how he chooses to continue the game.