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Hey guys, I'd like to bring the town's attention to the fact that LSB may be mafia.
So this is how the last night went:
Claims:
Pandain protected himself that night.
LSB says kenpachi visited artanis and pandain.
Coag claims doctor, protected LSB.
Glasse = shrink, saved LSB night 2.
Now here is the interesting part.
So we have a disreptancy between Glasse and Pandain's claims.
Now what is extremely feasibly possible is that Glasse is yakuza, and kenpachi actually MCed LSB.
What has made me notice this POSSIBILITY is that we cannot be sure LSB is actually still one of us. What we need to know is if pandain and/or glasse are telling the truth.
So heres how I think we should go.
Lynch pandain. Then, we know if glasse really is the shrink or not.
If pandain flips blue, we immediately lynch Glasse and LSB.
If pandain flips red, artanis and glasse are confirmed.
In LSB's post above me, it is not noted that he may have been converted, instead of pandain.
I think that the best course of action is to lynch pandain. If he flips blue, we immediately take out glasse/LSB.
If he flips red, we got rid of one of the reds, and we have 1 less person to worry about, as well as buying ourselves much more time to find the second red.
##Vote: Pandain
Sorry dude, but if ur town know that your death was not in vain.
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UNVOTE KTHEZ
DECONDUO WILL END THE VOTE NOW
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##Vote: Pandain
I need to remember to bold my votes :/
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UNVOTE PANDAIN. YOUR GOING TO END THE DAY
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##unvote (for now so it doesnt end the day)
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Remember. There is a very good chance that today is Lylo. (Unless Pandain is telling the truth).
Therefore we HAVE to vote for a mafia.
I'll address your issues soon.
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Actually case 2 is impossible. Since Coag already claimed to have protected you, and not glasse, therefore both mafia couldn't have used conversion.
For case 2, I'm not lying, and I've basically shown that Glasse is lying(He hasn't even responded to that.).
For case 3, there is a 33% chance of winning if we lynch Coag. You're saying I have to accurately guess who he will mind control. Leaving it up to that should not be done. Lynching Glasse is safer in that point.
So really, it comes down to me vs. Glasse again. And I've already basically shown why Glasse is lying, and how he has already screwed up.
So your right, either me and coag are mafia, or glasse is the sole mafia remaining. And I agree with the dead Dr. H that its glasse/kenpachi.
Lynching Glasse is actually better.
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What im trying to bring attention to is the fact that LSB MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PROTECTED THAT NIGHT, if glasse is mafia and kenpachi MCed LSB (causing him to lie about who kenpachi visited)
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On November 18 2010 10:31 KtheZ wrote:
Hey guys, I'd like to bring the town's attention to the fact that LSB may be mafia.
So this is how the last night went:
Claims:
Pandain protected himself that night.
LSB says kenpachi visited artanis and pandain.
Coag claims doctor, protected LSB.
Glasse = shrink, saved LSB night 2.
Now here is the interesting part.
So we have a disreptancy between Glasse and Pandain's claims.
Now what is extremely feasibly possible is that Glasse is yakuza, and kenpachi actually MCed LSB.
What has made me notice this POSSIBILITY is that we cannot be sure LSB is actually still one of us. What we need to know is if pandain and/or glasse are telling the truth.
So heres how I think we should go.
Lynch pandain. Then, we know if glasse really is the shrink or not.
If pandain flips blue, we immediately lynch Glasse and LSB.
If pandain flips red, artanis and glasse are confirmed.
In LSB's post above me, it is not noted that he may have been converted, instead of pandain.
I think that the best course of action is to lynch pandain. If he flips blue, we immediately take out glasse/LSB.
If he flips red, we got rid of one of the reds, and we have 1 less person to worry about, as well as buying ourselves much more time to find the second red.
##Vote: Pandain
Sorry dude, but if ur town know that your death was not in vain.
impossible. Doctor would have had to protect glasse for that to work. And Coag would therefore have to be lying. And in that scenario there would be 3 mafia(coag, lsb,glasse) when only two could be possibe.
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On November 18 2010 06:40 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 07:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I'm feeling Glasse/Kenpachi right now as the scumteam. Dr. H accuses him, glasse accuses back and tries to make Dr. H seem less credible. Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 10:25 Glasse wrote:On November 16 2010 10:22 LSB wrote:
What do you think of the Pandain/Doctor H argument? i think drh is trying much harder than i've ever seen him which makes me believe hes trying to hide something. And yes, I want glasse to respond to all this. I'll do an analysis hopefully after I get back from this political group thingamabobber, but until then I'll just be pointing out inconsitincies/proofs.
On November 18 2010 06:35 Pandain wrote:
And I have full faith I'll be able to get him lynched so we win, since he has already messed up several ways.
1.Keeps suggesting you could be fake, while saying he protected himself because he didn't believe you, and he still doesn't believe you now, yet he "protected LSB second night."
2.He immediately claims he's shrink, which suggests either
1.He's VERY VERY VERY VERY rash. or
2.He's thought this out already, and knows what to do(try to get me lynched)
You tracked me night one, that lends credence to me. What does Glasse have? His word?
You are really pushing for me because you think i can't defend myself or something?
1. i didnt say he was fake, i said he could be. i realized he could be fake while typing the post where i said he could be... then he said no counter claim, which is right and makes sense, if the real tracker said it we would of owned a mafia early. what can happen is that medic protected sacrifice so there are actually 3 mafia, but game would be over already that way. he can't be mafia
2. i was reading the thread, people that are obvious liars and full of shit make me kinda mad so i had to claim quickly to exactly not let you use the argument "he thought about it for a while and decided to counter claim"
i said drh was trying 2 hard because did you see those 10000 words posts? i felt like it was 2 much
do an analysis if you want, you will point out random fake shit to try to prove me as red, but then i can easily deny all of those accusations, since i'm not red
did i miss something?
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On November 18 2010 10:37 KtheZ wrote:
What im trying to bring attention to is the fact that LSB MAY NOT HAVE BEEN PROTECTED THAT NIGHT, if glasse is mafia and kenpachi MCed LSB (causing him to lie about who kenpachi visited)
i actually protected him, he is not mafia, unless i left out something i shouldnt have :3
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Okay lets check out the possible cases.
Me and Glasse are Mafia-
This is not feasible at all. We would have sat on our votes for Pandain. You guys would have lost as we would have three votes for Pandain. Look, you voted for Pandain, and also Coagulation voted for Pandain.
Pandain and Coagulation are Mafia-
Well Coagulation bandwagoned Pandain pretty fast. If they were mafia, Coagulation would have let Pandain have his chance to try to squirm out of it
Glasse and Coagulation are Mafia-
I have yet to go through their posts, but they've both been anti-pandian
Glasse is sole mafia-
This is pretty likely. But if we're going to hang our hats on this, we better be 100% sure.
Remeber. This is lylo. You have to hang your hat on something. It's a balls to the walls momement. I'm asking you to trust me.
Think through your actions.
Remember. As town, we have to be united. We cannot afford a split vote. Split vote = Game over.
+ Show Spoiler +Still not convinced I'm town?
If I was mafia I wouldn't have yelled at you for voting. The voted would be tied 2-2-1, and no lynch would have happened.
Town looses
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Actually I think I misread your point. But still, in that scenario it would currently be 2 scum vs. 3 townies. But then by lynching me it would be even and they win.
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alright so why this: + Show Spoiler + Effort - drh *dead
calm - artanis *dead
clam - kthez
sea - pandain (mafia)
stork - lsb
jaedong - youngmini *dead
flash - glasse
mafia 1 - kenpachi *dead
mafia 2 - coag
pandain left his house day 1, so he has to be doctor as the 2 other roles that can leave are confirmed (to me at least, since i know i'm actually flash)
means coag is lying and kthez is the real clam.
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On November 18 2010 10:37 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2010 10:31 KtheZ wrote:
Hey guys, I'd like to bring the town's attention to the fact that LSB may be mafia.
So this is how the last night went:
Claims:
Pandain protected himself that night.
LSB says kenpachi visited artanis and pandain.
Coag claims doctor, protected LSB.
Glasse = shrink, saved LSB night 2.
Now here is the interesting part.
So we have a disreptancy between Glasse and Pandain's claims.
Now what is extremely feasibly possible is that Glasse is yakuza, and kenpachi actually MCed LSB.
What has made me notice this POSSIBILITY is that we cannot be sure LSB is actually still one of us. What we need to know is if pandain and/or glasse are telling the truth.
So heres how I think we should go.
Lynch pandain. Then, we know if glasse really is the shrink or not.
If pandain flips blue, we immediately lynch Glasse and LSB.
If pandain flips red, artanis and glasse are confirmed.
In LSB's post above me, it is not noted that he may have been converted, instead of pandain.
I think that the best course of action is to lynch pandain. If he flips blue, we immediately take out glasse/LSB.
If he flips red, we got rid of one of the reds, and we have 1 less person to worry about, as well as buying ourselves much more time to find the second red.
##Vote: Pandain
Sorry dude, but if ur town know that your death was not in vain. impossible. Doctor would have had to protect glasse for that to work. And Coag would therefore have to be lying. And in that scenario there would be 3 mafia(coag, lsb,glasse) when only two could be possibe.
Why would doctor have to protect glasse for this to work?
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On November 18 2010 10:34 Pandain wrote:
Actually case 2 is impossible. Since Coag already claimed to have protected you, and not glasse, therefore both mafia couldn't have used conversion.
For case 2, I'm not lying, and I've basically shown that Glasse is lying(He hasn't even responded to that.).
For case 3, there is a 33% chance of winning if we lynch Coag. You're saying I have to accurately guess who he will mind control. Leaving it up to that should not be done. Lynching Glasse is safer in that Point.
So Really, it comes down to me vs. Glasse again. And I've already basically shown why Glasse is lying, and how he has already screwed up.
So your right, either me and coag are mafia, or glasse is the sole mafia remaining. And I agree with the dead Dr. H that its glasse/kenpachi.
Lynching Glasse is Actually better.
(I believe you mean Case 1). Remember, in case 1, coag is lying. So he could be lying about who he protected. He could have protected Glasse
Case 2: Glasse is telling me the same thing. I can't believe either of you. Put it flatly, you both have scummy town play
Case 3: (See case 2).
Remember, Case 1 is still there. Vote for Coagulation, its the best for the town
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Agreed LSB, and again, that just proves furthormore what shoudl be obvious by now, Glasse is frickin lying.
For example, I've shown that really the only two-three cases are either
1.Me and Coag are mafia(again, you did bring up he voted me pretty darn quick.)
2.Glasse is mafia alone or even
3.Glasse and Coag are mafia(coag protected glasse, glasse MCED him.)
Lynching Glasse is the safest choice in all of those, especially when you start to use your noggin  .
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