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guoguo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States121 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4001
Holy crap, Day9's voice is so coarse I thought he was Tasteless.
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4002
This chat is a disgrace.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4003
Ahh, Puma with the "oh shit I lost better 1-1-1" strategy.

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bubl100500
Profile Joined March 2011
Ukraine538 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4004
I've never seen 1base collosi win against 1-1-1, especially when it's done by Puma.
astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4005
On November 27 2011 03:08 StarStruck wrote:
Don't worry.

HerO knows how to deal with 1-1-1 now.


Yeah, at MLG Raleigh, he held off a 1-1-1 from Puma with some nice blink stalker play
MLG Admin | Astro.631 NA
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4006
On November 27 2011 03:07 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 03:07 1Eris1 wrote:
I hate this whole
"oh puma is such a bad player because he relies on 1-1-1)
HE PLAYS TO WIN
The guy can play amazing macro games we've all seen it, he's not fucking bitbyebye or something, he just plays smart.
Why the fuck would you play only macro games if thats where your oppenent is strongest?

If 1-1-1 is imbalanced or whatever fine, hate the build, not the player. Players should always play to win.


He just use it a bit too much for everyone taste.


once in a tournament= too much

people love MC and Naama when they allin, double standards are kool
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4007
sigh 1-1-1 even though I play Terran, just depresses me that he uses a build that so many people dislike so often. Its like cannon rushing. Yeah its valid but its sort of unfair.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4008
It was completely NightEnD's fuckup. Complete miss control and decision making. -_-.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Maxhster
Profile Joined March 2011
Fiji473 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4009
puma scared to go into a macro game, understandable after he lost so badly on tal
rawr
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4010
No Artosis, one base colossus is a shitty build against 1-1-1.
wat
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4011
On November 27 2011 03:08 DoubleDouble wrote:
why would you ever go collosus over immortals against 1-1-1


To kill marines?
crack
ImHuko
Profile Joined December 2010
United States996 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 18:10:20
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4012
I wish they'd just get rid of 1-1-1. You can hold it off if you play it perfectly, but a 3rd grader could perform a 1-1-1. The skill level needed to perform it vs hold it off is imbalanced big time. To have a build that has like 90% chance of winning that you can fall back on, just kinda sucks for the game.

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Timerly
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany511 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4013
Nightend played that in a weird way, I even remember him saying once that the longer the game goes 1base vs 1base the better 1/1/1 becomes yet he didn't try to intercept :/
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4014
On November 27 2011 03:07 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 03:07 1Eris1 wrote:
I hate this whole
"oh puma is such a bad player because he relies on 1-1-1)
HE PLAYS TO WIN
The guy can play amazing macro games we've all seen it, he's not fucking bitbyebye or something, he just plays smart.
Why the fuck would you play only macro games if thats where your oppenent is strongest?

If 1-1-1 is imbalanced or whatever fine, hate the build, not the player. Players should always play to win.


He just use it a bit too much for everyone taste.



MC, Naniwa, etc should have a lot more hate then. They do 1-2 base allins just as much as Puma 1-1-1s
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
Petrina
Profile Joined December 2010
United States178 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4015
On November 27 2011 03:02 hugman wrote:
This is why I will never cheer for Puma


Yup, playing like this is not making him a lot of fans. He is definitely a player I downvote whenever I get the chance.
andis35
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia346 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4016
no offence to puma, you play to win, but 111 still hasnt been solved
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4017
On November 27 2011 03:07 _Repo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 03:07 StarStruck wrote:
Stick to what you know o;

1-1-1.


Want a tissue for those tears?


It's rather boring to watch though, even if it's all part of the game. I'd rather see beautiful games with alot of action.
And this is pure as spectator.

And that remark is so 2005 or so, get something more original ty.
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4018
It's like Puma is shouting at Blizzard: "Nerf me, HAHAHAHA"
Myggvalp
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden31 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4019
Just tuned in and noticed the pulsmeter, nice thing to add:D
GreenAndOrangeTurtle
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia193 Posts
November 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#4020
On November 27 2011 03:08 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2011 03:07 Noocta wrote:
On November 27 2011 03:07 1Eris1 wrote:
I hate this whole
"oh puma is such a bad player because he relies on 1-1-1)
HE PLAYS TO WIN
The guy can play amazing macro games we've all seen it, he's not fucking bitbyebye or something, he just plays smart.
Why the fuck would you play only macro games if thats where your oppenent is strongest?

If 1-1-1 is imbalanced or whatever fine, hate the build, not the player. Players should always play to win.


He just use it a bit too much for everyone taste.


MorroW used 5RR too much.

MC used 6gate blink too much.

etc.

It's called winning


Exactly. Its a tournament not a popularity contest. Who cares how you win as long a you do it
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein
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