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On December 02 2013 01:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 01:13 jaybrundage wrote:On December 02 2013 00:50 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2013 00:47 jaybrundage wrote:On December 01 2013 22:47 marvellosity wrote:
You never answered the actual point jay - if you think I'm amazing scum, do you think I would have played how I have so far?
If so, why? Please justify yourself, because your previous post was just nonsense I dont have a great reason that you could be scum. That was my point of my post your a good scum player so its hard to make a case on you. I have thought you were town lots of times and found out later you were scum. Your difficult to read but my gut says scum. Have you even been in a game I've been mafia in? Yes Which? Your claim is that you have thought I was town "lots of times" and found out later I was mafia, but I can't remember playing with you. In short, I think you're bullshitting muchly.
Using the mafia data base it was Hero Mini Mafia. I thought you were town the whole game and you turned out to be mafia. You played a very strong mafia you lead the town and misguided them very well. Kudos
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On December 02 2013 19:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 05:28 jaybrundage wrote:On December 02 2013 01:27 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2013 01:13 jaybrundage wrote:On December 02 2013 00:50 marvellosity wrote:On December 02 2013 00:47 jaybrundage wrote:On December 01 2013 22:47 marvellosity wrote:
You never answered the actual point jay - if you think I'm amazing scum, do you think I would have played how I have so far?
If so, why? Please justify yourself, because your previous post was just nonsense I dont have a great reason that you could be scum. That was my point of my post your a good scum player so its hard to make a case on you. I have thought you were town lots of times and found out later you were scum. Your difficult to read but my gut says scum. Have you even been in a game I've been mafia in? Yes Which? Your claim is that you have thought I was town "lots of times" and found out later I was mafia, but I can't remember playing with you. In short, I think you're bullshitting muchly. Using the mafia data base it was Hero Mini Mafia. I thought you were town the whole game and you turned out to be mafia. You played a very strong mafia you lead the town and misguided them very well. Kudos So "once" then, not "lots of times" That was a gross exaggeration, wasn't it, jay? Why did you grossly exaggerate?
During the game I played with you I thought you were towns tons of times. Reads can change thru out the game. But you played scum very well and proceeded to trick everyone and win the game as scum. I thought i had played another game with you but i was wrong. Regardless my whole post was to say you play a very good scum and I if you play townie-like there is a still a very strong chance you can be scum. So im gonna FOS you like a sonovabitch.
Also you have me a scum read I read later on. Please Marv tell me why I would create a terrible case on you a townie vet. As mafia and draw my self into the spotlight. It wasn't even a case ffs. It was a gut read. You say Im bullshitting. But how is a gut read bullshitting it just is a feeling. If your not dead in a day or 2 your prolly mafia regardless of how your playing.
On December 02 2013 16:46 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 16:23 Mocsta wrote:On December 02 2013 16:18 Roffles wrote:On December 02 2013 16:02 Mocsta wrote:On December 02 2013 15:58 Roffles wrote:On December 02 2013 15:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Gtrsrs just didnt really post anything after day 1. I think its far more likely for scum to do that because they dont see anything instantly to contribute, he just bitched about not getting khazix If he's scum, what's to gain from posting really dumb shit instead of just staying quiet like half the players? Sir RofflesDo you have an opinion on someone <other> than gtrsrs? Jaybrundage screams red. Just complete wishwash nonsense from him. Inactivity for a while after trying to "unsuccessfully" instigate plans he never had any intentions of carrying out. Think MZ's red too. Don't have previous experience for me to draw information off, but his play seems super hostile for no apparent reason, especially when someone briefly mentions his name in passing as "could be scum". Doesn't make any sense to me why anyone would be so super defensive so quick. With gtrsrs you gave some insight into why you think his motives were townie. With Jay + MZ can you have detailed some actions you find odd/scummy. Can you please walk me through why the motives are pushing a scum agenda. As I've said before with Jay, I just find his overall posting mannerisms not fitting to that of a townie. Everything is "What do you think" instead of stating as a matter of fact. Yes, you can probably chalk it up to poor play, but it's also what scum does (they like to stir shit up). Throw in the fact that in the middle of being accused, he attempts to throw in random tangent posts to potentially deflect stuff off him. He then goes on and accuses marv for probably the most ridiculous reason of all (I've seen him play a good mafia, so we should kill him). Can you chalk that up to being bad? Because he does have games played before. Add on top of that some timely no posting (He's been pretty active last couple of days) that coincides with the release of roles, and to me you have someone that has a good chance of either being bad town or red. As for MZ, I just think he's red cause of how he was super aggressive/borderline hostile when his initial propositions against gtrsrs and geript turned back onto him. I just think he's trying to get gtrsrs lynched for being a bad townie player, buying scum an extra day. Fairly simple, I think gtrsrs is green and MZ's just trying to use him as lynch bait because gtrsrs's play has legit been pretty awful and borderline scummy, which is perfect for him to hide behind if he gets the traction and support of many.
Roffles I have never played with you. Your reasoning is shit because I don't play town how others would or optimally. I am unique or as some would say lynchbait. Oh no you say you shouldn't call your self lynchbait thats anti town. Well actually referring to my self as lynch bait is a null tell. I do it as scum or town. If you wanna make a case on me go read some of my games and understand my meta. Cause if you use simple basic guidelines for town, your gonna mislynch a townie.
My reasoning for going after Marv is because I played a good scum game and I'm very wary of him cause he won the game for his team. Would scum go after a Vet like Marv let alone my scum play. I basically lurk super hard as scum I wouldn't go after someone like Marv because that would draw unwanted attention. Regardless read my meta or drop the case, cause its shit.
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VE gimme some of your scum reads so I can go reread filters later tonite.
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I really liked LSB's post about Bum.
Also sandro's had some good points too.
##Vote Bumatlarge
Also i have been seeing this crop up.
I'm a VT I tried to take lux.
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I just finished reading the thread now and am writing a response for yall peeps. Hold tight
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On December 04 2013 08:00 Mig wrote:
Jay can you explain why you tried to take lux with the 2nd to last pick. You thought nobody would try to take pretty much the only cop role not banned out?
Cause I liked her power seemed very useful for town. I never saw her mentioned before so i thought i would give it a shot.
On December 04 2013 09:26 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 09:21 justanothertownie wrote:
1) You might be right about the fake paranoia.
2) Would you really try to snipe one specific player? How could that even work? Seems ridiculous to me.
Do you still think rayn is scum? I don't see why he wouldn't. If he's that concerned about Marv being scum (that's practically his only discussion) then I don't see why he wouldn't concern himself with trying to get that role. Yes, it's seems ridiculous to normal rational thinking, but you also have to remember that paranoia is by definition irrational. The fact that he isn't being irrational really bugs me. As far as thinking rayn is or might be scum, honestly I have not clue. There's no way he gets lynched today so there's a real point in me trying to get an assessment on him in any regard right now.
I have tunneled reallllllllllllllllllllllllllllly hard before, If i thought someone was scum I would witch hunt them all game until I got there blood. One game I did this to a player I had played with together as scum buddies. I was town and thougth they were displaying scum traits. And i tunnelled the whole game. Until finally they died and they were green. At that point the game was over for us. A scum had gotten a hold on town and my tunneling helped us lose that game. I have tried to improve my self by not being irrational when playing mafia. Tunneling Marv and shitting up the thread would help no one.
As well i know my case was weak. The biggest reason I wanted to get it out there is because even if Marv is playing great and looks like a townie. He still has a good chance of being scum. I don't have alot of influence and I'm not the best scum hunter. I know this I don't typically play in big games and I like to stick to minis and even then, I'm pretty useless day 1. I find going on no concrete information difficult. (Oh no your playing your self down as a townie and trying to make your own opinion useless that's scum play. I don't give a fuck I know my limits. I am not the best player and I know I have big weaknesses.) I would prefer to state my weaknesses then talk my self up and make up shit.
On December 04 2013 09:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 09:31 geript wrote:On December 04 2013 09:29 marvellosity wrote:
lol jay is mafia. Christ. Is this like you're agreeing with me thing or a "you're out of your fucking mind again geript" thing? It's a "I just got to his post in the thread and it's fucking terrible thing". His last 3 posts Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 06:50 jaybrundage wrote:
My reasoning for going after Marv is because I played a good scum game and I'm very wary of him cause he won the game for his team. Would scum go after a Vet like Marv let alone my scum play. I basically lurk super hard as scum I wouldn't go after someone like Marv because that would draw unwanted attention. Regardless read my meta or drop the case, cause its shit. Show nested quote +On December 03 2013 06:50 jaybrundage wrote:
VE gimme some of your scum reads so I can go reread filters later tonite. Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 07:56 jaybrundage wrote:
I really liked LSB's post about Bum.
Also sandro's had some good points too.
##Vote Bumatlarge
Also i have been seeing this crop up.
I'm a VT I tried to take lux. Last post is almost directly a scumclaim it feels like. I don't know if I'm overreacting.
I'm sheeping a read I liked. The main candidates are LSB and Bum. I liked LSB's theory about picking Tryndamere. Also between the two candidates Sandro stated that Bum is the more likely. I have a towniesh read on Sandro.
I'm not much of a scum hunter day 1. I accept this. Is a townie sheeping people he things town scummy. Cause that just seems dumb.
On December 04 2013 09:33 marvellosity wrote:
"I lurk superhard as scum" ------> goes missing for 24h and comes in with a terrible, generic +1 vote with no thought behind it.
I find this line of thinking dumb. As if everyone that has a vote is gonna add a completely profound line of thought that is unique of everyone else's. I'm fucking sheeping. I'm not gonna make up a bullshit reason why I'm voting for Bum. I could quote the post's I liked. But wouldnt make a difference my action is the same.
On December 04 2013 09:38 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 09:35 geript wrote:On December 04 2013 09:33 marvellosity wrote:
"I lurk superhard as scum" ------> goes missing for 24h and comes in with a terrible, generic +1 vote with no thought behind it. What do you think of the paranoid argument. The more I think about it, the more I realise that a paranoid town Jay would be more pessimistic of people in general. The focus on Marv seems doesn't make sense with the jump to Bum. When I played with jay in nomination; he was unpredictable and confused as town (i.e. would flip reads instantly on new information). He's not showing any signs of this paranoia; its all suspicion that could have been said pre-game... as his reasoning for marv being scum weren't in-game related.
That's why I'm Numba 1 LYNCH BAIT NA
I haven't been able to get involved in this game as i like. (I know saying shit like this is discouraged but its the truth) I avoid big games like this, but it was lol themed  I had to join.
On December 04 2013 09:45 Mig wrote:
Does anyone have experience with jay's town game and how much effort he generally puts in?
I think I may know this jay your talking about. He's a crazy mutha fucka who likes to have fun. Really shitty day 1. People that dont play with him always want to lynch him. Hes rather easy to read later on cause he lurks hardcore as mafia. If the game goes on hes easier to find out. The main difference between this game and his normal games. Is this is a Normal Size (Big) mafia game and his forte is minis so he may not be able to be a real threat presence till later on.
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On December 04 2013 09:54 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 09:52 JonnyLaw wrote:
Jay's obviously not helping the town but why does his last post bother you so much? Is it the comment that he likes LSB's read on Bum? That post doesn't say much to me.
His initial attack on you seems motivated by how much you burned his ass in the last game more than anything. I see where it could be used to gain town cred but what a weird way to go about it. Basically last time he posted he was promising to read filters and contribute to the game. He comes back to the thread with some indication that he has in fact read the thread (enough to mention LSB and sandro and what they said about bum) but literally has no other contribution of note. He's totally opted out of doing anything today, which fits in much more with how he plays mafia than how he plays town. He seems to have zero interest in thinking critically about the game or doing anything. It reads like he made that post because he HAD to, not because he wanted to.
Yea this would bug me too. I never got around to reading filters. At that point There were already two main candidates and out of the two I liked the Bum wagon better. Can't recall the people VE mentioned but i think Jcarl was mentioned and maybe? LSB. Sandro made the post saying how Bum would be mafia for LSB to be mafia and Jcarl wasn't a viable lynch option. This late in the day we needed to consolidate.
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On December 04 2013 10:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Jay, did you start pregame thinking 'pressure marv cause he doesnt look like scum as scum'?
Not pregame so much. I got in on this game at the last second cause of people giving up a spot a few hours before the game started. When I noticed Marv however I remembered how well he played. My going after him wasn't really relevant to his posting that's whats scary about Marv He can be posting as a townie and be SCUMMMM.
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On December 04 2013 10:22 justanothertownie wrote:
"I am the worst player there is so please don't lynch me" - jay
BEST MISLYNCH NA :D
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On December 04 2013 10:23 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 10:15 jaybrundage wrote:
I find this line of thinking dumb. As if everyone that has a vote is gonna add a completely profound line of thought that is unique of everyone else's. I'm fucking sheeping. I'm not gonna make up a bullshit reason why I'm voting for Bum. I could quote the post's I liked. But wouldnt make a difference my action is the same.
It's not sheeping as a standalone thing that's the problem, jay. It's sheeping while providing literally nothing of any value to the town at any other point, nothing that suggests you've bothered to think about the game.
Not true I added that Marv is a slipper mutha fucka and to keep an eye on that scummy bastard.
In all seriousness I haven't much. I haven't added my own thinking much either. But regardless it doesn't make me scum. What I tried to do early game when I had time and wasn't playing catch up always. Was play to my town game and make people recognize me for what I am a townie. VE saw it although I had trouble staying as active as i like to be as town. The apostrophes for instance is something town jay would do. Its completely spur of the moment and shit I can't think of the word I want i sometimes have trouble finding the mot juste. Its kinda like seat of the pants or doing things as they pop into your head someone help me. This is gonna bug me.
Anyway my plan early game was to establish my townieness. Which I kinda slacked off on doing later into the day.
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On December 04 2013 10:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
spontaneous
THANK YOU
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On December 04 2013 10:37 marvellosity wrote:
"I wanted to make people think I was town" ---> "the apostrophe thing was totally spur of the moment"
yeah ok
He was totes asking for it. I tried hard as hell on that shit. Speaking of the apostrophe thing.....
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Althought it was already noted I claim being Tabbz MWAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHAH
BREAD CRUMBS MUTHA FUCKAS
On November 30 2013 14:29 jaybrundage wrote:Apparently TL formating hates me so there she is in all her glory ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ZVSzVw5.jpg)
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Hmm the wagon isn't going as hard on me as i thought. Maybe i should of saved that for later : /
Hey VE I should get a Lol Smurf with BEST MISLYNCH NA
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On December 04 2013 10:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Tell me who you think is scum Jay. Tell me who is suspicious and why. I don't care what you've already said, that was then. This is now.
You won't like this.
I don't know. Bum I guess. I know im repeating my self but i liked the LSB case on him. I haven't been able to analyze the thread much. I suck at day 1. Your gonna be mad lol
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On December 04 2013 10:45 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 10:42 jaybrundage wrote:
Hmm the wagon isn't going as hard on me as i thought. Maybe i should of saved that for later : /
Hey VE I should get a Lol Smurf with BEST MISLYNCH NA hmm I thought i voted bum last night. WIFOM defense after WIFOM denfese ##Unvote
##Vote: Jay
Don't do that T_T
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On December 04 2013 10:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Jay
Not mad friend, just disappointed.
VE you legit think I would have not a single person to post if I was on the scum team. Wouldn't I ask my scum buddies for help with someone i could stick a shitty FOS on. I'll try to look thru the player's names and see if anything i can remember that stuck up to me. With big games like this its more difficult tho : /
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On December 04 2013 10:51 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 10:50 jaybrundage wrote:On December 04 2013 10:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Jay
Not mad friend, just disappointed. VE you legit think I would have not a single person to post if I was on the scum team. Wouldn't I ask my scum buddies for help with someone i could stick a shitty FOS on. I'll try to look thru the player's names and see if anything i can remember that stuck up to me. With big games like this its more difficult tho : / With a 15 vote bandwagon an hour from deadline, I'm guessing your scumteam is just like "Say whatever, you're fine. Just so long as you're not modkilled."
Im sad you can't read my VE. Looking at my early game you had me dead on.
Well looking thru the names. gtrsrs really bothered me with his constantly posting lol related things. That were completely irrelevant for the most part. He just posted lol champs and abilities and speculation with out any real content
Will keep looking.
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On December 04 2013 10:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
He's also completely absent and a coinflip. Try harder. What do you think of Mocsta and MZ?
Lemme look thru them quick
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Well I liked Mocsta's early thread presence.
I find his push on MZ and then the frustrate vote on him cause he feels ignored a bit odd.
Over all he makes sense and is being out spoken I would say town for Mocsta
Now for MZ
I find him liking you kind of odd. Well I do have a town read on you VE. I'm not sure if his defending of you is townish or not.
Hmm Thinking town actually
Yea his way of defending you and seeing that rayn is prolly town as well with a wrong read on you ve, makes me give him a town read.
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