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drift0ut
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United Kingdom691 Posts
November 12 2012 18:29 GMT
#21
this was nothing like my experience in England doing maths. I looked at universities and e-mailed the guy i wanted to work with. He said I'm leaving for a conference on Wednesday can you come up on Tuesday? I said yes, we chatted about the sort of thing i'd do for an hour or so, then I got an offer about a week later.

but then in England PhD's are very different, they only last 3 and a bit years, there are relatively few exams and teaching is optional.
Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
November 14 2012 01:18 GMT
#22
I'm a PhD studet at Moscow State University (the best univ. in russia) and we are paid 200$ a month. I'm just sharing
Zaranth
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States345 Posts
November 14 2012 14:19 GMT
#23
@drift0ut - the PhD process is very different in Europe, even for biology. My PI and one of the post-docs in the lab are both Dutch. Their PhD was 4 years in total. Here it is very open-ended. I'm in my 6th year, and I'll need good luck to graduate before my 7th, even though I have done a ton of work.

@Nerfed - I actually have no idea if that is a good or a bad amount in Moscow. Can you give us a comparison? Like, what does an average young working person make there?
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 03:20:38
November 16 2012 07:53 GMT
#24
Heh at my program here in the US (Biological Anthropology) my adviser wishes for me to get done in 4 years and that is supposed to be fast. I think PhD comics had a statistic on how long an average PhD in the US is and its like 5ish years. A lot of people really drag it out due to life getting in the way so there are people who end up going on for 10+ years (I think there was someone in my department who just graduated last year who was like that).
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PackAttack
Profile Joined May 2010
United States80 Posts
December 10 2012 19:14 GMT
#25
Thanks! This will be very useful advice for my (hopefully) upcoming interviews.
Nerfed
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation1132 Posts
December 13 2012 22:45 GMT
#26
@Zaranth - Moscow is like one of the most expensive cities in the world. Rent of a 1-room flat will cost around 1000$ per month. And after graduation from the top universities ppl make 1700-2500$ per month during their first year. But there a lot of unskilled jobs for 500$. Our government just really wants smart people to stop existing - they are now literally destroying the whole educational system leftover from the USSR time.
zeniasvalharik
Profile Joined April 2011
United States19 Posts
December 28 2012 03:32 GMT
#27
I'm still paying for my undergraduate--hard enough to get by working full time, much less attempting to take on grad school. Hopefully things change in a few years in this herr country.
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