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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 27 2012 07:14 GMT
#3821
whyt you guys dont undertand is, that we don't have to lynch the traitor.
He counts as mafia, but he wins with town. If in the OP are 7/9 mafia, there are in fact only 6/9 mafia alive because one is the traitor. We don't have to lynch him.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
July 27 2012 07:18 GMT
#3822
On July 08 2012 02:20 Katina wrote:
And to save some of you a post such as "casualman is a troll, who cares" I don't care if he's a troll. That's a terrible excuse for him not to be considered for a lynch. Mafia can be anybody, even trolls. He doesn't even have to come in and defend himself because he has you to do it for him. He is written off as a troll, so why bother right? There are going to be a lot of red faces when he flips mafia.

On July 07 2012 10:57 Katina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2012 10:52 Hyaach wrote:
u defend bm day one. added post after mkmk lyncht make it seem like you care. add on cases where the ebtire towns are divides in half. bke is my green check too. makes me suspect u even nore. cman is a troll and i dont know what to make of mandanlor and myself? lol.


I do care.. The town is just about always half divided. BKE is green on your supposed "check" So trolls can't be Mafia? I find it interesting that you would let a troll live over someone who is posting their reads and trying to help the town find Mafia. You don't know what to make of yourself? Interesting. I would imagine you would have some idea by now.


She try to kills trolls when she is mafia. So far not going after me and having pants on head is gives off a town vibe...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
July 27 2012 07:19 GMT
#3823
On July 27 2012 16:14 supersoft wrote:
whyt you guys dont undertand is, that we don't have to lynch the traitor.
He counts as mafia, but he wins with town. If in the OP are 7/9 mafia, there are in fact only 6/9 mafia alive because one is the traitor. We don't have to lynch him.

So are you saying there is a town traitor that counts as the mafia we need to kill if there really is a traitor?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 27 2012 07:20 GMT
#3824
On July 27 2012 16:14 supersoft wrote:
whyt you guys dont undertand is, that we don't have to lynch the traitor.
He counts as mafia, but he wins with town. If in the OP are 7/9 mafia, there are in fact only 6/9 mafia alive because one is the traitor. We don't have to lynch him.


he wins with town, means he doesn't have to be dead to win... imagine if he was the last man alive. Would mafia win then?
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
July 27 2012 07:28 GMT
#3825
I got some more leads:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.theadvocateweblog.com/?p=1540
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Sheldon/Reynolds
http://www.fark.com/comments/6917580/My-mouse-ate-my-dongle
http://desmotivaciones.es/2721019/Ponerse-vaqueros-en-la-cabeza
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
July 27 2012 07:37 GMT
#3826
On July 27 2012 16:28 Chezinu wrote:
I got some more leads:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.theadvocateweblog.com/?p=1540
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Sheldon/Reynolds
http://www.fark.com/comments/6917580/My-mouse-ate-my-dongle
http://desmotivaciones.es/2721019/Ponerse-vaqueros-en-la-cabeza

earliest date of the pants on head seems to be around December 2011...

+ Show Spoiler +
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8938/photo82c.jpg


A picture can travel a long ways on the internetz
lol, clueless in The Prism!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 27 2012 08:31 GMT
#3827
He wins with town means that he wins with town. In order for town to win, we have to eliminate all the mafia. All the mafia. Including the traitor. You still win if you die, sir...it's just not as satisfying.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 27 2012 08:44 GMT
#3828
so mafia wins, if the traitor is the very last man standing? i dont disagree with you though, he doesnt have to be alive. but i doubt that he cannot win while he's still alive.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 27 2012 08:58 GMT
#3829
Gonzaw you are getting lynched 100%, don't bother
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 27 2012 09:10 GMT
#3830
Katina I agree that it doesn't make sense for mafia to play like that, but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen it happen. I don't think your play makes much sense for town either. Feel free to find the "real" remaining mafia for me and convince me that it's not you.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 27 2012 09:53 GMT
#3831
On July 27 2012 14:31 Bill Murray wrote:
I forced supersoft (by stealing his vote) to vote onto sloosh


"Protactinium vote stolen 7/27 05:30"

On July 27 2012 04:33 supersoft wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: slOosh


nice move.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 27 2012 13:05 GMT
#3832
On July 27 2012 18:10 syllogism wrote:
Katina I agree that it doesn't make sense for mafia to play like that, but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen it happen. I don't think your play makes much sense for town either. Feel free to find the "real" remaining mafia for me and convince me that it's not you.


Aside from what you've said, the thing that makes me uncomfortable about Katina is her push on Mattchew, which as the game goes on makes increasingly little sense to me. She seems to have completely abandoned that read with no explanation as well.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 27 2012 13:43 GMT
#3833
lol, qbert lol. Now I get what you guys are talking about. lmfao.
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:19 GMT
#3834
Gentlemen Stoke the fires, Beat your plowsharesCoffee Mugs into swords, its time to murder someone. Listen to me I say, I am your neighborhood nosy employee and every day instead of doing my job I snoop on someone. I get any messages going to or from that person during the day.

Here is my breadcrumb:
On July 22 2012 04:57 rastaban wrote:
I was snooping through some of the experienced players filters
Syllogism is town it is pretty obvious
Foolishness I'm sorry I doubted you for a bit. I forgot last game we played together mafia's ploy was to get you lynched. I am convinced your town now so let's work together. You are posting just like you did then with distant for poor town play an focusing on finding scum. I like it!

Not sure on ggq yet, time for more research!
Chezinu and sandroba are obviously town.
BM is so different from himself he must be scum.


If I died I had hoped people would check my filter to see who I had snooped on, it wasn't so much about confirming them as much as at least getting a bit more information out to town. As you can tell it was Sylo and Foolishness. Foolishness I figured wouldn't have been a hench man, so I knew he would message every time he had the option to, if he was scum. Sadly I misunderstood when it said that Executives couldn't have powers, and thought that Godfather would be considered a power even if it was passive. So when he flipped scum I started PMing the host until I saw that he was immune. Sorry guys, The funny thing is if I had waited a little longer I would have seen the flip and avoided that catastrophic post.

Next up I checked out Q-Bert-Z, knowing he was inactive and possibly becoming more inactive I checked him so that we could hopefully ignore him and just use him as an extra town vote while he was gone. No message from him came about, combined with BM confirming that he had no day ability I think he is town, or at least we should save him till last if we can't find someone else guilty. Now my checks aren't perfect as getting no messages doesn't clear someone completely, and it is less useful on minions as they get PMmed less often.
Now sadly I am very poor at guessing scum, or at least targets who message and my Sylo, Foolish, Q-Bert-Z, trio netted me zilch. As you may notice my plan was to target the more experienced players that I thought wouldn't be lynched soon.

Guess what I got a message today. I decided maybe VE is right to be paranoid, so under the guise of friendship I stuck my nose in my best friends business when lo and behold I noticed a message. Now let me tell you friends this I expected, as he had been open about his dealing with other players. But remember friends I am a snooper, I Picked up the fairly comical letter and decided to go make a copy and that is when I saw it. A crumpled piece of paper, part of it had been burned so I couldn't make out the full message, but some remained intact. Was he sending this message or receiving it? Either way it didn't matter. I had been told he could only send one message, and their was no one else who could send them except that awful guy in the board of marketing. This man I trusted and had called friend, was either was the chairman of marketing or else he was taking orders from him! I then realized the chairman certainly couldn't have sent the first message so this man was working for marketing, How sublime to catch him red handed, though I cried dark viscous black tears from the cold heartless betrayal he had plied upon me!

I thought to wait to share what I had to save my own skin, but then I realized my time here at PCP has not been very helpful, I have been a nosy but lackluster employee. Perhaps I could die tonight and save someone who though lacking in powers was much more useful like a sylo and with only 1-3 names even sent I doubt I am on the list anyway. I decided that the more time to discuss this the better. Also only one man remains who can message

So I give to you my friends the name of this rogue, this vagabond, this harlot of marketing and his name is not Walton but CHEZINU!!!

I will give you the second message, the recipient of the first message can reveal it if they would like but as it has nothing game relevant and was merely trolling I will ignore it:

---Message Partially Censored---
I'm lonely. Figure it out.

I don't know what it means, but really the fact that their was another message is the incriminating part. So Chez will you deny that you got two messages or will you come up with a reason for it?


Addendum i.e. clues to chezinu's alignment supported by the above
VE was right, why switch up playstyles when what he was doing was winning? Why did he not use his power to out mafia but save himself from supposed town head VE (paranoid) Look at how Sandroba used his power and then how chez used his. Why is chez still alive if he had all this power? Why did mafia use the keyword Chaos all the time, just like chez? Why was Foolishness the only veteran experienced player on the Scum team?

So many questions so few answers.


Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:29 GMT
#3835
Addendum 2:
Also the missed messages, most likely they were to scum thats why their are so many he didn't claim. This was how they would be able to upwardly communicate but it would be risky since he didn't know if scum would get them or town.

Time to claim where they went Chezinu. Who got those messages you sent but didn't want to reveal, you might die now, better share that information. And the first message you sent was not a will, so tell town who they were.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 27 2012 14:34 GMT
#3836
Wait...you used your power on Chez. You saw that he either sent or received a message that says "I'm lonely. Figure it out." That's it? No more?

Chez claimed he was a "Bossy Employee." As in:
On July 22 2012 09:12 Protactinium wrote:
Bossy Employee
Show nested quote +
You are the bully of the office! Although you have no official titles, you like exercising power. Your fellow coworkers become terrified with your mere presence. Once per half cycle, you may attempt to boss around any employee of your choice. To use this power, you must PM me with whatever message you wish to send, along with the name of your target employee. Your target will not be informed of your identity, and is under no obligation to comply with your orders. I reserve the right to censor your message if deemed inappropriate. Feel free to clarify anything with me if you have any questions. You win with the town for some reason.
The role doesn't say one message, the role is 2 messages per cycle...

Multiple messages fits his role perfectly. Don't know if fakeclaim or outted self because of bad math.
Fe fi fo fum.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 27 2012 14:34 GMT
#3837
That's a very confusing post, so could you very clearly state what your role told about chezinu? I suppose letting him answer first might be better.

I may have to actually read his filter. I agree that the way he has been using his power is very strange and suboptimal.
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:37 GMT
#3838
I'm lonely. Figure it out.

What could this mean? It is from the Marketing Director. Perhaps he is trying to give chez a clue to

Ahah I just figured it out. It was a clue for Chez to message the director of marketing. I lied the second PM did factor in the Director of Marketing is:
Katina
Beloved Katina,

I know you were surprised at my alignment. I really enjoyed looking at that photo of you with your pants on your head. However, I am dead now. Speaking from the grave, I urge you to keep playing though I am not with you. I know you only enjoy playing the game because I am there. I am sorry for not logging out of my account every time I use your laptop, I simply just forget. Please forgive me. I don't want to fight with my sweet darling. Once this game is over, I hope we can play again together in a game where we are lovers. I would like you to know that I will always be there for you. See you soon in RL.

Love,
The Fool that is in love with you!
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:37 GMT
#3839
On July 27 2012 23:34 austinmcc wrote:
Wait...you used your power on Chez. You saw that he either sent or received a message that says "I'm lonely. Figure it out." That's it? No more?

Chez claimed he was a "Bossy Employee." As in:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2012 09:12 Protactinium wrote:
Bossy Employee
You are the bully of the office! Although you have no official titles, you like exercising power. Your fellow coworkers become terrified with your mere presence. Once per half cycle, you may attempt to boss around any employee of your choice. To use this power, you must PM me with whatever message you wish to send, along with the name of your target employee. Your target will not be informed of your identity, and is under no obligation to comply with your orders. I reserve the right to censor your message if deemed inappropriate. Feel free to clarify anything with me if you have any questions. You win with the town for some reason.
The role doesn't say one message, the role is 2 messages per cycle...

Multiple messages fits his role perfectly. Don't know if fakeclaim or outted self because of bad math.

Right once per half cycle, Both message were in the day half cycle.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 27 2012 14:39 GMT
#3840
I have no problem being lyched to confirm my role. We are so far ahead that if it means we kill Katina and Chezinu I would gladly take that trade :D
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
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