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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On March 13 2011 07:07 hitman133 wrote: Yea Nani since IdrA's weakness is ZvP. SeleCT and Sjow is not really impressive in TvZ. Idra's weakness is Korean PvZ and foreigner TvZ. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On March 13 2011 07:21 ShamTao wrote: Er, even so, since SeleCT v Axlav was counted, the series should be consistent with it. To the Ace Match! It was counted because no one protested at the time of the match. If you were watching the strifecro brought it up in chat, but the casters didn't believe him. | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
On March 13 2011 07:26 ptbl wrote: It was counted because no one protested at the time of the match. If you were watching the strifecro brought it up in chat, but the casters didn't believe him. should have had msged an admin and not believe the casters. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On March 13 2011 07:32 PredY wrote: should have had msged an admin and not believe the casters. He was in the middle of the game... | ||
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Seronei
Sweden991 Posts
On March 13 2011 07:26 ptbl wrote: It was counted because no one protested at the time of the match. If you were watching the strifecro brought it up in chat, but the casters didn't believe him. Still, he should have paused and explained it clearly and quit the map. You can't just play out the match and then replay it because he lost, that would give StrifeCro one extra chance and that would be even worse. | ||
NonY
8751 Posts
On March 13 2011 06:59 Seronei wrote: Probably cause whoever is going to play the ace can't play at this time. As far as I know... and please someone correct me if any of this is inaccurate... No, it's just how they've scheduled it with no explanations given. During the season, matches were allowed to be played at different times and different servers if the players agreed. But for the playoffs, the folks running this league decided it's all gonna be played live and on NA. Keeping in mind that the people running GCPL are the same folks running NASL, who have said that online competitions can't be streamed live because it makes cheating possible, this decision is indeed perplexing! It was quite unfortunate for the ragtag group of hooligan gamers I call a team, since our guys all had to play at times they are normally sleeping. If TL vs fnatic had gone to an ace match, it was also going to be played on Sunday. If this is all so they don't have to cast from replays, then I don't think the TL community is gonna be too pleased. Getting the best performances out of players is top priority! While we've always had a vocal minority of people upset that they're watching a replay, we've also always successfully shouted down that minority and forced them to cease their stupidity and enjoy the amazing competitions! Letting the "IT'S A REPLAY?!?!!??! IT'S NOT LIVE?!?!?!?!!?" crowd win out over the clear-sighted, good-hearted people that form the core of this wonderful community, who hold player performance as sacred, would be a huge loss. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On March 13 2011 07:35 Seronei wrote: Still, he should have paused and explained it clearly and quit the map. You can't just play out the match and then replay it because he lost, that would give StrifeCro one extra chance and that would be even worse. On March 13 2011 04:32 Liquid`Jinro wrote: What version of terminus are they playing that has gold expos? It must be really old. Jinro explained it on page 4, way before the match ever happened. The admins and casters still didn't do anything. | ||
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Seronei
Sweden991 Posts
On March 13 2011 07:38 ptbl wrote: Jinro explained it on page 4, way before the match ever happened. The admins and casters still didn't do anything. Then it's fair to assume the admins decided that the version used of Terminus_RE was the one they were supposed to be playing on. | ||
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
Keeping in mind that the people running GCPL are the same folks running NASL, who have said that online competitions can't be streamed live because it makes cheating possible, this decision is indeed perplexing I think this might be the most confusing part for me as well. Has there been an explanation for the discrepancy? | ||
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ambient_orange
170 Posts
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On March 13 2011 07:40 Seronei wrote: Then it's fair to assume the admins decided that the version used of Terminus_RE was the one they were supposed to be playing on. No, they mentioned in the cast that this was the most updated gsl terminus map, which clearly isn't. People were pointing this out in the Justin.tv chat, but they thought the viewers were trolling, which they obviously weren't. | ||
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Seronei
Sweden991 Posts
On March 13 2011 07:44 ptbl wrote: No, they mentioned in the cast that this was the most updated gsl terminus map, which clearly isn't. People were pointing this out in the Justin.tv chat, but they thought the viewers were trolling, which they obviously weren't. Casters =/= admins afaik. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
I'm not sure if you've seen the previous GCPL matches, but when an admin isn't present, the casters assume the role. If you were watching the game between strifecro and sjow, you'll notice there was no admin in the game, so diggity and gretorp were making the decisions on the spot. They were debating if they should do a regame, but they reached the conclusion that they were using the most updated terminus map, which they weren't. | ||
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Leviance
Germany4079 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
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ultramafia
221 Posts
On March 13 2011 07:35 Liquid`Tyler wrote: As far as I know... and please someone correct me if any of this is inaccurate... No, it's just how they've scheduled it with no explanations given. During the season, matches were allowed to be played at different times and different servers if the players agreed. But for the playoffs, the folks running this league decided it's all gonna be played live and on NA. Keeping in mind that the people running GCPL are the same folks running NASL, who have said that online competitions can't be streamed live because it makes cheating possible, this decision is indeed perplexing! It was quite unfortunate for the ragtag group of hooligan gamers I call a team, since our guys all had to play at times they are normally sleeping. If TL vs fnatic had gone to an ace match, it was also going to be played on Sunday. If this is all so they don't have to cast from replays, then I don't think the TL community is gonna be too pleased. Getting the best performances out of players is top priority! While we've always had a vocal minority of people upset that they're watching a replay, we've also always successfully shouted down that minority and forced them to cease their stupidity and enjoy the amazing competitions! Letting the "IT'S A REPLAY?!?!!??! IT'S NOT LIVE?!?!?!?!!?" crowd win out over the clear-sighted, good-hearted people that form the core of this wonderful community, who hold player performance as sacred, would be a huge loss. You make some good points. I would say though that the NASL playoffs will be streamed live (although its a bit different since players will physically be there O_o). i do believe they should have conducted the play offs the same way as the rest of the tournament. And what is the deal with the outdated Terminus? Why is no one from GCPL answering any of these questions. Not sure if time of matches should really be an excuse for losing though. It is an American tournament. Was scheduling not explained to the teams before the play offs?(i'm assuming from your reaction it was not). | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
On March 13 2011 07:59 ultramafia wrote: Why is no one from GCPL answering any of these questions. One of 3 things: -They haven't read the questions yet. -They're plugging their ears with their fingers hoping the issues will fade away. -They're taking their time thinking of reasonable excuses. Take your pick. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On March 13 2011 07:58 Antoine wrote: imo the main difference in new terminus is not gold->normal expos, but rather the orientation of the 3rd, where the minerals no longer are close to the counterclockwise base but instead are close to the edge of the map You may be right, but I'm just pointing out the gold------>normal because strifecro brought this specific issue up in the game. I'm just surprised that the GCPL organizers and casters haven't watched any GSL games. Jinro brought this up on page 4, but it's surprising that they didn't do anything about it. | ||
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ultramafia
221 Posts
On March 13 2011 08:03 Telcontar wrote: One of 3 things: -They haven't read the questions yet. -They're plugging their ears with their fingers hoping the issues will fade away. -They're taking their time thinking of reasonable excuses. Take your pick. Or a combination of all 3! I do think its important to experience these things before the start of the NASL. I'm also not sure its fair to assume the NASL will not have more admins and individuals involved in planning of matches. | ||
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cyprin
United States1105 Posts
i missed the sjow/strifecro games could someone pls pm me the results, only drama in the last few pages, no actual game discussion ~~ | ||
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