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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
August 09 2012 12:49 GMT
#321
On August 09 2012 21:06 prplhz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Reasons people are voting me:


On August 09 2012 02:57 DoYouHas wrote:
[...]
prplhz is looking worse and worse in my eyes because of his lack of quality early and his lurking now. I don't really have anything new to bring against him as he hasn't written anything new. But his silence is condemning, his apparent desire to fly under the radar while everyone is focusing on Shiao/Mord/Forum. He needs to be kept in the spotlight with all our other suspects and he has earned my vote.

##Vote: prplhz


Voting for me because I am lurkish. It's a little wobbly between scum and pressure vote but

On August 09 2012 05:24 marvellosity wrote:
##Unvote

Custos is actually getting involved in town affairs

##Vote: prplhz

prplhz very much is not.

I'm going to look more into the Forumite situation. Need to mull over what slOosh said to me and also see if I can make anything out of what seems to be a lot of 'meh' from people about it.


Voting for me because I am lurkish.

On August 09 2012 05:32 HiroPro wrote:
Let's kill prplhz. As town he may act overwhelmed at times but he certainly doesn't display the attitude or lack of interest that he does here.

This is much more like his scum games (Normal Mini II and Movie Star) where he acts annoyed and angry for no reason and does nothing.

As for Forumite, I'll wait and see. The contradiction that sciberbia and slOosh talk about (wanting to pressure Shiao but at the same time withholding reasoning because ) is certainly present but he's brought a lot more attention onto himself actively than I would expect from a scum player and definitely looks interested in town affairs. We shouldn't lynch him today.

##Vote prplhz

I don't know what to think of this, when I am busy I play like I am playing right now. I appreciate the effort but if you look at Mad Men Mafia you'll see me play lurkish too (and get lynched on day1) and I was town that game. HiroPro, why are you ignoring Mad Men Mafia? Also, how exactly do you feel that my play looks like Normal Mini Mafia II and Movie Star Mafia but not like Mad Men Mafia?

On August 09 2012 08:53 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 07:53 prplhz wrote:
On August 09 2012 07:34 Forumite wrote:
[...]
On August 09 2012 06:46 prplhz wrote:
Yes I will contribute more, no I will not give you any reason other than the very generic "I'm busy" (because I don't think that it's fair when people bring things into mafia that don't belong in mafia).
I´m still waiting for your contribution, and your answer to my latest post.

Your excuse is a lie, you were not testing out your reads.

You are now trying to take credit for something which you inadvertently caused which makes no sense at all. You appear to be overly worried about what people think about you and your explanations don't make sense. This is why you are the scummiest in the thread.
Yeah, this isn´t the prplhz I´m used to. I can take the fact that you think I´m scum, but I can´t understant why you are not reading what I write and are deliberately misunderstand things. Do you really think I´m trying to take town-credit for being the cause of a discussion about wether or not I´m scum? I don´t think you have any interest in this game at all, you are among the top candidates for a lynch and your defence is nonexistant.
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 06:19 prplhz wrote:
I don't like most of the votes on me, it seems like they're just picking an easy target in a lurkish person which is silly (at least so early on in the day).
You are an easy target because you are scummy, and you haven´t tried to change anyones mind about you since returning, you´d rather throw some suspicion around and hope it blows over. I was ready to vote you earlier when you had posted twice in total, now you are back and I´m even more sure that you are scum.

##Vote prplhz

Why are you as town saying something that you don't mean? I read the thread and then I react to that, you shouldn't say stuff you don't mean if you are town because the best you can achieve is that some guy will misunderstand you. Like it's already been pointed out this looks very OMGUS and you were just waiting for me to post so that you could put your vote on me (you'd already expressed the desire to do this but also some scummy reluctance to do it).


On August 09 2012 13:51 Keirathi wrote:
[...]
-- prplhz --
I really don't know what to think. He has lurked and hasn't contributed much at all. The 1 liners, and jumping on the most popular case once he did contribute doesn't help his standing in my eyes, and fits with his Normal Mini II scum play. For now, he gets my vote.

##vote prplhz

I'll be around for a couple of hours for discussion though.

You don't know what to think so you'll just lynch me? Since when are 1 liners something that scum primarily do and how did I just jump on Forumite? I wrote what I liked about the sciberbia case, the point about his weird explanation of his ShiaoPi vote was really good. Forumite is writing something that very literally makes no sense just because he is under light pressure, this is really scummy. You are voting me for being lurkish and for voting someone else for a legit reason.

On August 09 2012 18:52 risk.nuke wrote:
Prplhz as people have already pointed out don't play like this as town and I prefer to hang him rather then Forumite.
##Vote: prplhz
[...]


Is this legit? Seriously, you are all voting for an easy target, not because I am scummy but because I lurked a bit. Then you are vaguely referring to the only actual case against me (HiroPro's) which is in itself really vague and also has a big flaw in it (in that he ignores my most recent game where this exact same thing happened as town). People should just notice this if I get lynched, HiroPro is the only one who actually ever brought out any arguments against me, the rest were a pressure vote and a bunch of vague references to that case, and I think it looks like HiroPro is being set up.


I didnt know you were in Mad Men. I looked at the games that I had played/observed with you in them (Poison, Liar, Movie, NMM II).

The similarity was in your attitude. In NMM II you screamed for the first half of the day that marv was scum but didnt say anything beyond that. In Movie you pretended to get angry about Zentor being in the game and proceeded to tunnel. This game was similar in that you came in not caring about what was going on, acted annoyed by Forumite, and then didnt do anything else.
Custos Luna
Profile Joined August 2012
United States96 Posts
August 09 2012 13:10 GMT
#322
Ok, my morning evaluation:

prplhz: I do not feel that the prplhz wagon has that much merit. He had a few poor posts early, but in the whole, he has responded fairly well to the case against him. He has defended himself logically and presented a counter argument against Forumite.

In my experience, the D1 lurker lynch is almost always inaccurate. The prplhz wagon started because it was easy. The easy way isn't always the right way. I'm glad people are starting to reconsider the vote on prpl for this reason. That's not to say I think he's town, I just think he is less likely to be scum than others at this point.

Forumite: I can see a scenario with Forumite flipping scum. He has been flip floppy all game, and people have pointed out his contradictions. However, he's still not the scummiest in my eyes.

Mordanis: Am I really the only one who sees the COMPLETELY blatant lack of commitment from Mord all game?

-First Half D1: Very fluffy posts with the promise to start scumhunting.

-Second Half D1: Still more fluff. Makes a long post and FoSs shipoopi (still no commitment). He does not cast a vote until very late D1 (sleepy time in my time zone). His vote is on marvel. I would normally have no issue with this if it were at a reasonable time. However, this is crunch time. A lynch on marvel isn't on the table at this point. He makes a case and commitment on something that more than likely will not happen.

Mord's posts are long and filled with nothing. He talks a lot but doesn't say anything. His posts are difficult to follow, and a lack of transparency hurts town. He avoids commitment to a case as much as he can.

[b]I'm sticking with my gut on this one. Mordanis is scum
We are the guardians of the moon, foes to the sun. Embrace the heresy.
Custos Luna
Profile Joined August 2012
United States96 Posts
August 09 2012 13:18 GMT
#323
EBWOP:

I'm sticking with my gut on this one. Mordanis is scum.
We are the guardians of the moon, foes to the sun. Embrace the heresy.
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
August 09 2012 13:45 GMT
#324
What I don't get about Mord is why he tried to push marv so late. When pushed to commit to the ShaioPi case and vote, he went for marv instead, a player that will definetly no be lunched today. Mord is wasting his vote.

I'm still leaning town on him. His posts are too few and too long, and he needs to be more aggressive, but there have been a few things that outweigh that.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
August 09 2012 13:47 GMT
#325
Mord
change your vote to me or prplhz, there's no point in voting for marv, he's not going to be lynched today. Consolidate to one of the leading lynches, otherwise you are helping scum.
:3
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
August 09 2012 14:17 GMT
#326
On August 09 2012 22:47 Forumite wrote:
Mord
change your vote to me or prplhz, there's no point in voting for marv, he's not going to be lynched today. Consolidate to one of the leading lynches, otherwise you are helping scum.

How so? unless we go to a double-lynch or no-lynch situation, whether I'm one of the ones to pile on a bad case or not seems irrelevant. I notice that CL is still voting me, so why am I the one you're mentioning?
I love the smell of napalm in the morning... it smells like... victory. -_^ Favorite SC2 match ->Liquid`HerO vs. SlayerS CranK g.1 @MLG Summer Championship
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
August 09 2012 14:23 GMT
#327
I believe this is the current votecount(If it is not please post an official one Blue or BH):

prplhz(5): DYH, Marvel, Forumite, Keirathi, risk.nuke

Forumite(5): Scib, slOosh, prplhz, Hiropro, Shiaopi

Mordanis(1): CL

Marvel(1): Mordanis

Unless people's opinions have completely changed since the beginning of today, we are about to do exactly what none of us wanted, a day 1 double lynch. This is actually the ideal scenario because they both have their votes tied up on each other, but that is beside the point. It is not ok to risk being at 6-3 at the start of day 2 based on just the limited information of today. That is why you need to switch Mord, we ARE in a double lynch scenario, and it actually has potential of going through.
Guts? Determination? $5?
Custos Luna
Profile Joined August 2012
United States96 Posts
August 09 2012 14:23 GMT
#328
Forumite, it's the 11th hour and your neck is in the noose. Are you planning on just letting yourself hang? If you are town and there is anything that needs to be said, now is the time to do it. If you flip scum, well then good on town for not faltering.

@Mord: The difference between you and I is that I established my case early and have backed it up and stuck to it. Your vote on marvel is fairly baseless and further shows your lack of commitment to anything in this game.
We are the guardians of the moon, foes to the sun. Embrace the heresy.
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
August 09 2012 14:25 GMT
#329
On August 09 2012 23:23 Custos Luna wrote:
Forumite, it's the 11th hour and your neck is in the noose. Are you planning on just letting yourself hang? If you are town and there is anything that needs to be said, now is the time to do it. If you flip scum, well then good on town for not faltering.

@Mord: The difference between you and I is that I established my case early and have backed it up and stuck to it. Your vote on marvel is fairly baseless and further shows your lack of commitment to anything in this game.

No. Your vote is useless too, and you should vote on a real candidate.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Custos Luna
Profile Joined August 2012
United States96 Posts
August 09 2012 14:27 GMT
#330
EBWOP: DYH, looking back, that does appear to be fairly accurate. I had thought more people unvoted off prplhz and onto Forumite.

If it is necessary, I will switch my vote from Mord to Forumite to avoid the double lynch depending on what is said in the next half hour. However, Mord, you need to decide. Forumite or prplhz. Make your choice. Do so before I am required to or the wrath of the moon will fall upon you.
We are the guardians of the moon, foes to the sun. Embrace the heresy.
Custos Luna
Profile Joined August 2012
United States96 Posts
August 09 2012 14:36 GMT
#331
On August 09 2012 23:25 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 23:23 Custos Luna wrote:
Forumite, it's the 11th hour and your neck is in the noose. Are you planning on just letting yourself hang? If you are town and there is anything that needs to be said, now is the time to do it. If you flip scum, well then good on town for not faltering.

@Mord: The difference between you and I is that I established my case early and have backed it up and stuck to it. Your vote on marvel is fairly baseless and further shows your lack of commitment to anything in this game.

No. Your vote is useless too, and you should vote on a real candidate.


Trying to decide the best course of action. You're right, I want to get my vote on a real candidate. Scenarios running through my head:

-I vote Forumite: Mord can force the double lynch. If both Forumite and prplhz are town, this puts us at 6v3 for tomorrow, something I'd really like to avoid.

-I wait for Mord to vote for a real candidate: causes him to choose and I can avoid the double lynch.

If one of prpl and Forumite are scum, the double lynch benefits us. However, I'm still not entirely convinced and I'm trying to figure out how to give us the best chance into this lynch.
We are the guardians of the moon, foes to the sun. Embrace the heresy.
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
August 09 2012 14:40 GMT
#332
Well, of the two bad cases up right now, the scummier is Forumite. He gives no reason for changing his mind from


+ Show Spoiler [This] +
On August 09 2012 00:14 Forumite wrote:
Clarification about my opinion of Mordanis
Big posts but very few, talking about me, possible VT-claim and policy, with a lot of fluff. Overall lots of text but next to no content, which looks bad. His post about "funnily enough" asking CL feels off somehow. Mordanis needs to shape up, or at least post more.

I'm anxiosly awaiting the time when CL gets back.


On August 09 2012 04:34 Forumite wrote:
@mordanis
You still fill your posts with fluff. It makes you look bad and makes it harder to understand what you mean. I don't want you to defend yourself about this, it's done, but if your scumhunting looks like the last post then I'm going to vote to have you lynched.


to
+ Show Spoiler [that] +
On August 09 2012 21:27 Forumite wrote:
@scrib
-I've allready answered why I kept saying I thought ShaioPi was scum even when I got unsure.
-I got suspicious of prplhz earlier, but didn't trust my read at first, because I thought it might have been anger at him voting for me. Then he came back and didn't change my opinion after three posts, so I went with my earlier read, that he's scum.

About mord
I don't think he's scum. I don't like his long posts, but he's actually my strongest townread right now.

I'm not sure if I'll be around anymore before the deadline.


The main thing though is that it seems like he is just trying to muck up the thread once he dies. I don't understand why a townie close to being lynched would share town reads instead of trying to throw in some final analysis on who's scummy.
I love the smell of napalm in the morning... it smells like... victory. -_^ Favorite SC2 match ->Liquid`HerO vs. SlayerS CranK g.1 @MLG Summer Championship
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
August 09 2012 14:41 GMT
#333
EBWOP
## Unvote
## Vote Forumite
I love the smell of napalm in the morning... it smells like... victory. -_^ Favorite SC2 match ->Liquid`HerO vs. SlayerS CranK g.1 @MLG Summer Championship
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
August 09 2012 14:49 GMT
#334
Welp, I guess that's that. I'm going back to bed.

Custos, don't pull any funny business.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Custos Luna
Profile Joined August 2012
United States96 Posts
August 09 2012 14:54 GMT
#335
On August 09 2012 23:49 Keirathi wrote:
Welp, I guess that's that. I'm going back to bed.

Custos, don't pull any funny business.


I would never!

Still unsure on Forumite. But I'm less sure on prpl, and I want to pad some security against a last minute swap/double lynch.

Therefore:

##unvote Mordanis
##vote Forumite


The moon is shocked that Mord has actually committed to something.
We are the guardians of the moon, foes to the sun. Embrace the heresy.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
August 09 2012 14:56 GMT
#336
we are lynching forumite by 1 vote? wow
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 09 2012 14:57 GMT
#337
Nice. Lets lynch this scum.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Custos Luna
Profile Joined August 2012
United States96 Posts
August 09 2012 15:02 GMT
#338
On August 09 2012 23:56 sciberbia wrote:
we are lynching forumite by 1 vote? wow


2 votes now
We are the guardians of the moon, foes to the sun. Embrace the heresy.
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
August 09 2012 15:05 GMT
#339
Deadline over, making night post nao
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
August 09 2012 15:10 GMT
#340
Night 1


[image loading]



The Dwarves were getting paranoid, and in this state, they put out Forumite in the line of fire, and he was caught by a flying axe. People were getting sick of his crafts presumably.

This is truly getting fun, if you know what i mean





It is now Night 1. Those who have actions send them to Blazinghand, I have a school event tommorow that obliges me to stay in school overnight. Deadline is around 23 hours and 50 minutes.

Forumite the Dwarf CraftsDwarf has been lynched.
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
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