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+ Show Spoiler +On June 20 2011 04:53 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 04:49 aprudds wrote:On June 20 2011 04:40 gtrsrs wrote:On June 20 2011 04:34 aprudds wrote:
no. that's not how this game works. you don't lynch contributing players. you lynch lurkers. aprudds and Drazerk have spammed up the thread to bury my defenses of myself. they are taking over the game and not letting town think for themselves. i feel sorry for you guys if there's no detective.
Damn I guess iGrok was a lurker last game. i don't really get what you're trying to accomplish here if you ARE a townie, spamming 1 liners and accusing someone claiming medic is not going to help you win. in fact, as i've said before, if you're a townie and voting for me you are intentionally losing, you are gamethrowing. i know there is decent suspicion of me at this point, and you want to keep the pressure up, but the fact that you won't even look at this from the point of view that i COULD be medic just shows that you don't care about winning. if you are MAFIA, then your accusations are only drawing attention to yourself. when i flip medic you're going to look really stupid and you will be a prime lynch/DT candidate. you played much more conservatively last game, so either you're a bored townie trying to be the hero, or you rolled mafia twice and you figured you better change your playstyle to "look" differently. either way you're drawing so much attention onto yourself that i can't help but think either you're a much worse player than we thought you were from your stellar performance last game, or you're gamethrowing. that's literally all i can think of I'm attempting your style of playing this round. How do you like tunneling? It's always good to try out different play styles to see which one matches especially since this is only my second forum mafia. I'm also poking holes in your logic. Claiming medic is NOT OPTIMAL if you were medic. Think of it as a compliment gtr, I trust you were smart enough to see that claiming medic would not be optimal if you were medic. yeah, i can see that, you wanna be guitarasaurus jr. look at the differences between me and iGrok though. he rage-quit when we singled him out. i'm claiming a role and trying to defend myself. i'm CLEARLY THE MEDIC. how is me claiming not optimal? somehow a lynchwagon got started on me overnight by freeloader and the mafia jumped on it. i tried my best to not claim. i posted a bunch of posts saying why voting for lord vatti would be a bad idea and you and drazerk covered them up in spam. i didn't claim until i had 6 votes. with Lord Vatti afk, 6 votes is the majority. i was FORCED to claim. it was obvious that no matter what i said, you'd bury it in one-liners and prevent people from reading my arguments
No I don't see any substantial evidence that your the medic. I posted before why claiming is NOT optimal. I'm sure you've seen it and read it.
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On June 20 2011 04:58 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 04:55 Treadmill wrote:
##Unvote: Drazerk
##Vote: gtrsrs
Looking pretty damn scummy, bro. Don't worry, I don't hold the "you're alll idiots" against you, you're just saying that to make us doubt ourselves. surprise surprise, the king of misreads strikes out again ![[image loading]](http://i51.tinypic.com/2n8dm6e.gif)
LOLOL. But, what the hell can I do, right?
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On June 20 2011 04:56 GMarshal wrote:
Lord Vatti(1)
gtrsrs
Drazerk
Alderan
gtrsrs(7)
freeloader625
Drazerk
Xedat
CjrNinja
aprudds
Pyo
Treadmill
aprudds(3)
omgCRAZY
supersoft
gtrsrs
Xedat, Drazerk, and aprudds will not change their votes (the first two because they are definitely scum, and the third because he wants to be like daddy.
freeloader might show up at the last second like he usually does, but my hopes aren't high. even if he does show up i doubt he'll see the error in his ways, or have time to muck through all the drazerk/aprudds spam to see the reason.
so that's 4 votes on me for sure.
Pyo, Treadmill, i think you're both reasonable. i want you to re-evaluate your votes. re-read my defenses and my attempts to lead us in the right direction SEVERAL times throughout the thread. decide if it's really worth it to lynch someone who's intelligent and analytical AND HAS CLAIMED MEDIC or if you'd rather keep Mr. I'm a self-proclaimed idiot drazerk and Mr. I have a hard time with simple grammatical rules aprudds.
cjrninja changing his vote is contingent on if he's mafia or not. if he's mafia he's got no reason to change his vote. if he's town, he should at least consider it, and through his considerations he should see that i am the wrong vote. if he's mafia there's 5 votes on me for sure.
alderan i have no fear will see the light and not vote against me.
so, the game is on Pyo and Treadmill (and potentially cjrninja if he's town). are you guys gonna change your votes?
looks like the new bandwagon is off Drazerk for some reason and onto aprudds, but i gotta do what i can to stay alive :s
##unvote: Drazerk
##vote: aprudds
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Here is my short (time constraint) on aprudds:
On June 18 2011 09:31 aprudds wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 09:28 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2011 09:01 aprudds wrote:Working out the Game type helps blues but not the town while reds already have a 50/50 guess on the type and if they work out there is for example a medic in play they know the game type and can use it against us. Alright since you asked for it I'll start with you. Let's break this post down shall we? Statement 1: Finding this information helps blues. Statement 2: Finding this information does not help town. Statement 3: Red's have a 50/50 guess on the game. Wow seriously man, step it up. Think things through. You should be able to see the conclusions people can come to when they look at these statements and connect the dots. Especially when they combine it with this.
but I agree in that we should stop this discussion and get onto analysing people
Can I pull a Freeloader here and Chalk it up to being a idiot / Inexperienced?  and statement two was more the fact of it may not help towns initially but helps Detectives be a bit more open without claiming knowing they have a medic as back up ( depending on set up ofc ) helping town later in the game. Notice how I didn't accuse you? Play smarter. Think about what you want to say. Don't be a kurumi and barf out your random thoughts onto the page and hope it makes sense.
Here aprudds is putting pressure on Drazerk for statement regarding determining the game type. Nothing too scummy about this but I do not like the fact the he pressures people with no real accusations.
On June 18 2011 10:16 aprudds wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:05 freeloader625 wrote:On June 18 2011 09:31 aprudds wrote:
Notice how I didn't accuse you? Play smarter. Think about what you want to say. Don't be a kurumi and barf out your random thoughts onto the page and hope it makes sense.
Oh damn son he just called you a, "kurumi."  On June 18 2011 09:28 Drazerk wrote:Can I pull a Freeloader here and Chalk it up to being a idiot / Inexperienced? Wait, oh you didn't just go there!  Hey Freeloader you intend of contributing this round instead of making random comments all game long?
Here he tries to put the pressure on Freeloader and wants him to contribute. Fair enough. Though now YOU are starting to act like Kurumi and just yell and scream at whoever is available.
On June 18 2011 10:51 aprudds wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 10:35 freeloader625 wrote:On June 18 2011 10:16 aprudds wrote:
Hey Freeloader you intend of contributing this round instead of making random comments all game long? You sound angry. Was it because you failed to lynch me last game? :D Seriously though, I'll contribute more this game. Pinky swear! No anger here 
Except you keep adding in that your not angry or accusing anyone and you your self have not contributed much.
On June 18 2011 12:52 aprudds wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:48 gtrsrs wrote:aprudds is out for blood don't back down bro i'm gonna go ahead and piggyback off that freeloader you got your free pass last game you freeloader. you know well enough by now that posts like this \/ On June 18 2011 10:35 freeloader625 wrote:On June 18 2011 10:16 aprudds wrote:
Hey Freeloader you intend of contributing this round instead of making random comments all game long? You sound angry. Was it because you failed to lynch me last game? :D Seriously though, I'll contribute more this game. Pinky swear! accomplish nothing. so instead of posting this, why don't you make an analysis or contribute in some way That's not fair gtr. What exactly is there analyze exactly? What has this contributed? Take some initiative as well and listen to your own advice. Unless your scum, then you can go burn and die.
Actually gets a little defensive when gtrsrs calls HIM out for not contributing/analyzing and his defense is "What exactly is there to analyze...". So you are pressuring people who are not contributing/analyzing but your defense when someone FoS you for the same is there is nothing to analyze... k.
Something to note:
+ Show Spoiler +On June 18 2011 19:10 Xedat wrote:
Generic post not to be modkilled.....
To say one last word to the setup discussion, I think blues should only claim when they are being lynched or if they think outing themselves will help town.
Now, as we need to pressure someone, Drazerk, why do you bring the focus away from freeloader immediately and try to incriminate 3 people who haven't posted hours after the game started. Trying to protect your scumbuddy? On June 18 2011 19:20 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:10 Xedat wrote:
Generic post not to be modkilled.....
To say one last word to the setup discussion, I think blues should only claim when they are being lynched or if they think outing themselves will help town.
Now, as we need to pressure someone, Drazerk, why do you bring the focus away from freeloader immediately and try to incriminate 3 people who haven't posted hours after the game started. Trying to protect your scumbuddy? Focusing on freeloader? What was we focusing on he made one worthless post which was more than the three I had listed had done who had more than enough time to post something by the time I posted the list. If I had not pointed the three out they will continue to lurk which is just bad all round On June 18 2011 19:36 Xedat wrote:
Aha, why so defensive. Scared to be lynched? Maybe they didn't lurk but simply did not read the thread until now. On June 18 2011 19:49 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:36 Xedat wrote:
Aha, why so defensive. Scared to be lynched? Maybe they didn't lurk but simply did not read the thread until now. At which point we still need their input when they do read it We had no discussion going on and I pointed out lurkers to which your jumping down my throat, Defending the lurkers? On June 18 2011 19:36 Xedat wrote:
Aha, why so defensive. Scared to be lynched? Maybe they didn't lurk but simply did not read the thread until now. Xedat puts pressure on Drazerk for taking pressure off Freeloader... go back and read that part. There was no pressure on Freeloader. This seems like a poor try to get people to focus on Drazerk for the wrong reasons.
On June 19 2011 06:30 aprudds wrote:
Hey Drazerk, inactives will get modkilled. I'm sure you learned that from last game. You also seem a bit too eager to change focus from freeloader.
You are the one who had put the pressure on Freeloader. You also just wanted him to post more. You weren't actually focusing on him you just wanted people to contribute which is the same thing Drazerk is doing (just in a different way).
On June 19 2011 09:50 aprudds wrote:
The point Drazerk is that inactives will get modkilled. Trying to completely shift focus onto inactives who might not even respond is not productive or pro town.
##Vote: Drazerk
The voting for Drazerk (started by Treadmill) has begun and with a VERY poor argument.
I am just posting this now because we are running out of time.
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On June 20 2011 05:00 Drazerk wrote:
##Unvote: gtrsrs
##Vote: aprudds
Ill explain after the Idra - MC game but I urge everyone to follow suit
okay wtf
ugh
ugh
UGH
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EBWODP: aprudds subsequent posts change the pressure wholly onto gtrsrs while changing his vote from Drazerk for more poor reasons. (Doesn't want to actually lynch his buddy)
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LOL Drazerk is so confusing. I think he may be town. Which convinces me more that aprudds is scum.
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EBWODP: aprudds subsequent posts change the pressure wholly onto gtrsrs while changing his vote from Drazerk for more poor reasons. (Doesn't want to actually lynch his buddy)
On June 20 2011 05:12 omgCRAZY wrote:
LOL Drazerk is so confusing. I think he may be town. Which convinces me more that aprudds is scum.
Wait wait, isn't this completely contradictory?
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ugh this is pathetic
i can't tell who's being really good mafia and who's being really really shitty town
either way, mafia has no reason to take their votes off of me.
which means that drazerk might not be mafia. but he's also a very bad player. he might just be making a good play assuming that aprudds will keep his vote on me at this point. this might be a fake bus because he thinks i'll still die.
this makes me think aprudds is not mafia however, and drazerk wants to confuse us all
FUCK
I REALLY WISH EVERYONE WOULD JUST VOTE LORD VATTI. THERE'S TOO MUCH OF A TIME CRUNCH AT THIS POINT. WE CAN'T RISK KILLING A TOWNIE TODAY ESPECIALLY SINCE I'VE CLAIMED. FUCK. TOWN IS SO FUCKING BAD.
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aprudds i URGE you to change your vote off me. if i'm the medic the mafia will kill me tonight anyways. if they don't, i have a chance to save someone. i'm quite convinced you're town now based on drazerk's voteswing and i think you can redeem yourself, please take your votes off me.
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On June 20 2011 05:00 Drazerk wrote:
##Unvote: gtrsrs
##Vote: aprudds
Ill explain after the Idra - MC game but I urge everyone to follow suit
THERE'S NO TIME, EXPLAIN NOW
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On June 20 2011 05:16 gtrsrs wrote:
aprudds i URGE you to change your vote off me. if i'm the medic the mafia will kill me tonight anyways. if they don't, i have a chance to save someone. i'm quite convinced you're town now based on drazerk's voteswing and i think you can redeem yourself, please take your votes off me.
I think your scum man. Like you said, you're a smart analytical guy, and if that's true there was no point for you to claim. If I think someone is competent I have to look at them like a unforgiving machine and that unforgiving machine part of me is telling me that claiming day 1 like that will only benefit scum.
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On June 20 2011 05:17 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:00 Drazerk wrote:
##Unvote: gtrsrs
##Vote: aprudds
Ill explain after the Idra - MC game but I urge everyone to follow suit THERE'S NO TIME, EXPLAIN NOW
we need votes off of me and we need input NOW
![[image loading]](http://i52.tinypic.com/dyk3a1.gif)
now is NOT the time to afk. we need some discussion. is drazerk the mafia bussing, or did he have a revelation that he thinks aprudds is mafia. at least one of them is mafia likely both but at least one. we need to make the right call NOW
get your votes off me and let's get some discussion PLEASE
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On June 20 2011 05:24 aprudds wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:16 gtrsrs wrote:
aprudds i URGE you to change your vote off me. if i'm the medic the mafia will kill me tonight anyways. if they don't, i have a chance to save someone. i'm quite convinced you're town now based on drazerk's voteswing and i think you can redeem yourself, please take your votes off me. I think your scum man. Like you said, you're a smart analytical guy, and if that's true there was no point for you to claim. If I think someone is competent I have to look at them like a unforgiving machine and that unforgiving machine part of me is telling me that claiming day 1 like that will only benefit scum.
YOU FUCKING SCHOLAR, YOU FUCKING GENTLEMAN, I HAVE EXPLAINED MULTIPLE TIMES THAT I CLAIMED BECAUSE THERE WERE 6 OUT OF 11 VOTES ON ME; EVEN AFTER I TRIED TO PULL VOTES OFF MYSELF WITHOUT CLAIMING, I ONLY NETTED 2 MORE VOTES ON MYSELF. STOP SPAMMING AND TAKE YOUR VOTE OFF ME
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On June 20 2011 05:26 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:24 aprudds wrote:On June 20 2011 05:16 gtrsrs wrote:
aprudds i URGE you to change your vote off me. if i'm the medic the mafia will kill me tonight anyways. if they don't, i have a chance to save someone. i'm quite convinced you're town now based on drazerk's voteswing and i think you can redeem yourself, please take your votes off me. I think your scum man. Like you said, you're a smart analytical guy, and if that's true there was no point for you to claim. If I think someone is competent I have to look at them like a unforgiving machine and that unforgiving machine part of me is telling me that claiming day 1 like that will only benefit scum. YOU FUCKING SCHOLAR, YOU FUCKING GENTLEMAN, I HAVE EXPLAINED MULTIPLE TIMES THAT I CLAIMED BECAUSE THERE WERE 6 OUT OF 11 VOTES ON ME; EVEN AFTER I TRIED TO PULL VOTES OFF MYSELF WITHOUT CLAIMING, I ONLY NETTED 2 MORE VOTES ON MYSELF. STOP SPAMMING AND TAKE YOUR VOTE OFF ME
So I can get myself lynched? You do realize your asking me to kill myself when I know I'm town for someone who I think is scum.
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we should put our votes onto drazerk. an unexplained voteswitch with the tag "i'll explain <after the lynch has occured> is unacceptable" especially from someone who has been fingered as likely mafia. we should all switch our votes to him. unfortunately, people are voting for YOU aprudds, which i think is wrong. i don't think you're mafia, i just think you're the worst town player i've ever seen. i am CLEARLY town. take your vote off me, put it anywhere else, not on yourself
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aprudds, I like how he's still trying to convince you after he's said that he thinks you're scum.
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On June 20 2011 05:31 gtrsrs wrote:we should put our votes onto drazerk. an unexplained voteswitch with the tag "i'll explain <after the lynch has occured> is unacceptable" especially from someone who has been fingered as likely mafia. we should all switch our votes to him. unfortunately, people are voting for YOU aprudds, which i think is wrong. i don't think you're mafia, i just think you're the worst town player i've ever seen. i am CLEARLY town. take your vote off me, put it anywhere else, not on yourself
Sorry mate, you know just as well as me that you're just trying to get me killed.
P.S. The fact that you haven't vote switched tells me alot about your motives.
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On June 20 2011 05:33 aprudds wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 05:31 gtrsrs wrote:we should put our votes onto drazerk. an unexplained voteswitch with the tag "i'll explain <after the lynch has occured> is unacceptable" especially from someone who has been fingered as likely mafia. we should all switch our votes to him. unfortunately, people are voting for YOU aprudds, which i think is wrong. i don't think you're mafia, i just think you're the worst town player i've ever seen. i am CLEARLY town. take your vote off me, put it anywhere else, not on yourself Sorry mate, you know just as well as me that you're just trying to get me killed. P.S. The fact that you haven't vote switched tells me alot about your motives.
i can't be the first to switch obviously
you could very well be mafia. i can't take my vote off you. but if you are town, you will take your vote off me. that's all there is to it
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