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On June 20 2011 04:30 omgCRAZY wrote:
Pyo I see that you voted gtrsrs for his behaviour. Is there any other reasons? Just wondering because aprudds behaviour is the same or worse to me and I believe gtrsrs HAS given good defense littered in with the garbage.
Can we get a vote count!
I will be voting to save gtrsrs today as I think he is town(or medic as he claims) and aprudds is just being ridiculous in his attempts to keep pressure on him.
I think the case on Drazerk is not amazing but better than gtrsrs'. In an ideal situation I would like to vote for a lynch on aprudds. If enough people support this please vote for him.
##Vote: aprudds
Note: If enough people do not vote for apprudds before the deadline I will be switching my vote to Drazerk.
oho? I'm scum because I'm keeping pressure on who I think is scum? If you disagree make a better argument. I have yet to see a good analysis of me.
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We still have 1 hour and 25 minutes. I urge people to vote for aprudds. I believe he is scum and if not, at the very least take the time to look back at gtrsrs' defense. It is solid, and he DOES backup his arguments with solid reasoning. There is no reason to lynch him today.
Vote aprudds or Drazerk.
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On June 20 2011 04:37 omgCRAZY wrote:
We still have 1 hour and 25 minutes. I urge people to vote for aprudds. I believe he is scum and if not, at the very least take the time to look back at gtrsrs' defense. It is solid, and he DOES backup his arguments with solid reasoning. There is no reason to lynch him today.
Vote aprudds or Drazerk.
Please list out the flaws in my arguments.
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On June 20 2011 04:34 aprudds wrote:Show nested quote +
no. that's not how this game works. you don't lynch contributing players. you lynch lurkers. aprudds and Drazerk have spammed up the thread to bury my defenses of myself. they are taking over the game and not letting town think for themselves. i feel sorry for you guys if there's no detective.
Damn I guess iGrok was a lurker last game.
i don't really get what you're trying to accomplish here
if you ARE a townie, spamming 1 liners and accusing someone claiming medic is not going to help you win. in fact, as i've said before, if you're a townie and voting for me you are intentionally losing, you are gamethrowing. i know there is decent suspicion of me at this point, and you want to keep the pressure up, but the fact that you won't even look at this from the point of view that i COULD be medic just shows that you don't care about winning.
if you are MAFIA, then your accusations are only drawing attention to yourself. when i flip medic you're going to look really stupid and you will be a prime lynch/DT candidate. you played much more conservatively last game, so either you're a bored townie trying to be the hero, or you rolled mafia twice and you figured you better change your playstyle to "look" differently.
either way you're drawing so much attention onto yourself that i can't help but think either you're a much worse player than we thought you were from your stellar performance last game, or you're gamethrowing. that's literally all i can think of
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okay
WTF
I seriously have no idea what's going on.
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You guys realize that this lynch is completely random. Just look at gtrsrs posts before this started.
+ Show Spoiler +On June 18 2011 06:23 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 06:13 Treadmill wrote:
Well, I'm gonna start by tossing out something that should be fairly obvious. If we have a DT, they should claim as soon as they hit a red. With only 3 mafia members, getting rid of a single one would be fantastic, and drop their KP right away. Obviously they shouldn't claim if they only hit a townie (though they maybe should claim to stop a mislynch? No so sure about this).
I think we can safely ignore the possibility of the set-up being the roleblocker, 2 goons, 9 townies, because that would be stupid. disagree at all points since we potentially have a roleblocker (who i might accidentally call a "hooker" as habit from epicmafia, just a heads up), the mafia doesn't actually need to kill a power role to nullify it. they can hook it all game and go after other townies since a confirmed DT that can't provide reports is worse than the possibility that there's a DT out there somewhere. a DT should only *definitely* claim if he's got a guilty when there are TWO mafia left. there are no millers in any set-up so his reports will be 100% accurate, and narrowing us down to 1 mafia from 2 (especially if that means a 50% chance at hitting a roleblocker if there is one) is better than sacrificing his power to get a single goon. IMO. also i don't think it's safe to ignore any set-ups as possibilities. while it would certainly make for a less "fun" game, there's strategic merit in every set-up including the almost all-'nilla set-up. just "assuming" we have blue roles would benefit the mafia, as we may wait for a medic save or detective report that never comes  for reference on this page, these are the possible set-ups: 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 7 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective1 Mafia Role Blocker, 2 Mafia Goons, 9 Town3 Mafia Goons, 1 Medic, 8 Town.3 Mafia Goons, 1 Detective, 8 Town.
For example this first post. This post makes perfect sense if he is the medic. He only talks about the setup with a roleblocker, because if there is a DT, there's also a roleblocker. ARGH! guys!!! This roleclaiming was pretty stupid... But not nearly as stupid as this OUT OF CONTROL accuses by aprudds! If you are town, then you are the reason for us losing this game! Now mafia has every information about the setup they require to fool us completely...
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On June 20 2011 04:46 Treadmill wrote:
okay
WTF
I seriously have no idea what's going on.
i'm the medic. i had to claim in a last-ditch effort to not get the town to lynch a townie today. i would have much preferred no lynch so we could cut our losses, but i think the mafia have revealed themselves and a vote on Drazerk, xedat, or aprudds would be a good choice. either way, it's urgent to get the votes off me so that if i do not get targeted tonight by the mafia for WIFOM purposes, i have a chance at a random save
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On June 20 2011 04:40 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 04:34 aprudds wrote:
no. that's not how this game works. you don't lynch contributing players. you lynch lurkers. aprudds and Drazerk have spammed up the thread to bury my defenses of myself. they are taking over the game and not letting town think for themselves. i feel sorry for you guys if there's no detective.
Damn I guess iGrok was a lurker last game. i don't really get what you're trying to accomplish here if you ARE a townie, spamming 1 liners and accusing someone claiming medic is not going to help you win. in fact, as i've said before, if you're a townie and voting for me you are intentionally losing, you are gamethrowing. i know there is decent suspicion of me at this point, and you want to keep the pressure up, but the fact that you won't even look at this from the point of view that i COULD be medic just shows that you don't care about winning. if you are MAFIA, then your accusations are only drawing attention to yourself. when i flip medic you're going to look really stupid and you will be a prime lynch/DT candidate. you played much more conservatively last game, so either you're a bored townie trying to be the hero, or you rolled mafia twice and you figured you better change your playstyle to "look" differently. either way you're drawing so much attention onto yourself that i can't help but think either you're a much worse player than we thought you were from your stellar performance last game, or you're gamethrowing. that's literally all i can think of
I'm attempting your style of playing this round. How do you like tunneling? It's always good to try out different play styles to see which one matches especially since this is only my second forum mafia.
I'm also poking holes in your logic. Claiming medic is NOT OPTIMAL if you were medic. Think of it as a compliment gtr, I trust you were smart enough to see that claiming medic would not be optimal if you were medic.
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What I don't understand that is that if gtrsrs is claiming medic why does he keep asking for DT checks when there is only a 50-50 chance of there actually being a DT
Surely by him being a medic he knows that the chance of a DT is unlikely
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On June 20 2011 04:49 aprudds wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2011 04:40 gtrsrs wrote:On June 20 2011 04:34 aprudds wrote:
no. that's not how this game works. you don't lynch contributing players. you lynch lurkers. aprudds and Drazerk have spammed up the thread to bury my defenses of myself. they are taking over the game and not letting town think for themselves. i feel sorry for you guys if there's no detective.
Damn I guess iGrok was a lurker last game. i don't really get what you're trying to accomplish here if you ARE a townie, spamming 1 liners and accusing someone claiming medic is not going to help you win. in fact, as i've said before, if you're a townie and voting for me you are intentionally losing, you are gamethrowing. i know there is decent suspicion of me at this point, and you want to keep the pressure up, but the fact that you won't even look at this from the point of view that i COULD be medic just shows that you don't care about winning. if you are MAFIA, then your accusations are only drawing attention to yourself. when i flip medic you're going to look really stupid and you will be a prime lynch/DT candidate. you played much more conservatively last game, so either you're a bored townie trying to be the hero, or you rolled mafia twice and you figured you better change your playstyle to "look" differently. either way you're drawing so much attention onto yourself that i can't help but think either you're a much worse player than we thought you were from your stellar performance last game, or you're gamethrowing. that's literally all i can think of I'm attempting your style of playing this round. How do you like tunneling? It's always good to try out different play styles to see which one matches especially since this is only my second forum mafia. I'm also poking holes in your logic. Claiming medic is NOT OPTIMAL if you were medic. Think of it as a compliment gtr, I trust you were smart enough to see that claiming medic would not be optimal if you were medic.
yeah, i can see that, you wanna be guitarasaurus jr.
look at the differences between me and iGrok though. he rage-quit when we singled him out. i'm claiming a role and trying to defend myself. i'm CLEARLY THE MEDIC.
how is me claiming not optimal? somehow a lynchwagon got started on me overnight by freeloader and the mafia jumped on it. i tried my best to not claim. i posted a bunch of posts saying why voting for lord vatti would be a bad idea and you and drazerk covered them up in spam. i didn't claim until i had 6 votes. with Lord Vatti afk, 6 votes is the majority. i was FORCED to claim. it was obvious that no matter what i said, you'd bury it in one-liners and prevent people from reading my arguments
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I'm still waiting on an analysis of me supersoft and omgcrazy. If I was scum it should be simple to find flaws in my argument right?
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##Unvote: Drazerk
##Vote: gtrsrs
Looking pretty damn scummy, bro. Don't worry, I don't hold the "you're alll idiots" against you, you're just saying that to make us doubt ourselves.
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Votecount, Day 1
Drazek(1)
Pyo
Treadmill
aprudds
Xedat
gtrsrs
Treadmill(0)
supersoft
Lord Vatti(1)
gtrsrs
Drazerk
Alderan
supersoft(0)
CjrNinja
Alderan(0)
aprudds
gtrsrs(7)
freeloader625
Drazerk
Xedat
CjrNinja
aprudds
Pyo
Treadmill
aprudds(2)
omgCRAZY
supersoft
1 hours and 4 minutes or so remain. gtrsrs leading the vote count with seven votes. Lord Vatti is at risk of getting modkilled ;_;. If I miscounted/missed a vote please point it out.
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On June 20 2011 04:56 GMarshal wrote: Votecount, Day 1 Drazek(2) PyoTreadmill aprudds Xedatgtrsrs Treadmill(0) supersoftLord Vatti(1) gtrsrsDrazerkAlderan supersoft(0) CjrNinjaAlderan(0) apruddsgtrsrs(6) freeloader625 Drazerk Xedat CjrNinja aprudds Pyo aprudds(2) omgCRAZY supersoft 1 hours and 4 minutes or so remain. gtrsrs leading the vote count with six votes. Lord Vatti is at risk of getting modkilled ;_;. If I miscounted/missed a vote please point it out.
Last moment treadmill swap
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On June 20 2011 04:55 Treadmill wrote:
##Unvote: Drazerk
##Vote: gtrsrs
Looking pretty damn scummy, bro. Don't worry, I don't hold the "you're alll idiots" against you, you're just saying that to make us doubt ourselves.
surprise surprise, the king of misreads strikes out again
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##Unvote: gtrsrs
##Vote: aprudds
Ill explain after the Idra - MC game but I urge everyone to follow suit
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On June 20 2011 04:49 Drazerk wrote:
What I don't understand that is that if gtrsrs is claiming medic why does he keep asking for DT checks when there is only a 50-50 chance of there actually being a DT
Surely by him being a medic he knows that the chance of a DT is unlikely
What?
If hes a medic he knows the chances of a DT are 50/50, if hes not a medic the chances are still 50/50.
Still no post in response to those that have voted for you while posting nothing but confusing/meaningless posts.
I think gstrs is actually the medic. I think it's a terrible play, but it is the only explanation for his rash outbursts earlier when he was getting voted originally. We'll know tonight anyway, the way I see it he'll either die or he's maf.
##unvote: Lord Vatti
##vote: Drazerk
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On June 20 2011 05:00 Drazerk wrote:
##Unvote: gtrsrs
##Vote: aprudds
Ill explain after the Idra - MC game but I urge everyone to follow suit
Cause this is a totally bullshit thing to say/do...
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