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DropBear
Australia4353 Posts
All your refutations are basically claiming that anyone who thinks you are scum are scum. You do this again with me now that I suspect you. Your scum team-analysis is basically piggybacking off other people's. There's a whole bunch of copy-pasting the work of others in there. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4353 Posts
On April 16 2011 12:21 Kenpachi wrote: haha dude why dont you respond to me DropBear? Jesus give me a minute. One person at a time. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
Lists are cool, but the main thing right now is how fast those assassins are going to do all their shit. Protact should obviously be shot, and it would help town removing the KP of a potential assassin. Shoot now check later I say! Mafia KP is down to 3 and they are the only anti-town faction this game, so we can pretty much do ballsy lynches to ensure us a win. Only thing I'm concerned about is Dr. H. If he's scum, he makes lylo come ridiculously sooner, while if he's town we basically already won. Just based on that, he's a great target for analysis, which is why I will make him my priority. He's got a lot of negatives but he did "cut his connection" with GMarshal very early, when they could have easily bought time keeping the lynch on coagulation and pardoning him, without subjecting Dr. H to my critical eye. Also the veteran claim, like he mentioned, is too risky to make when there is a high probability we don't have more then 2 vets. It gives me further trash to sort through in determining his alignment, but adding everything up, he passes as town with flying colors. Dr. H. is a veteran. He has screwed mafia over too hard with little to no advantage for himself. Even taking Kav into consideration, I find it hard to believe he would go out on that limb as mafia lynching a townie and then put the nail in the coffin to his scum paradoner and GF. It could be a massively awesome gambit, but with the modkill of coag, the long analysis by GM, and the manner in which our Mr. Dr. Mayor the great has revelled in, gets the highly coveted medal. Also, m0nsterchef, the poor kid who get's FoS'd every page, gets this medal for his cool tracker claim. Gives him a neat little niche, and hopefully mafia has too many other matters to be concerned with to hit him. Bum's Medal of Townosity Doctor Helvetica m0nsterChef Impending members due medals upon further inspection: Chaoser | ||
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DropBear
Australia4353 Posts
On April 16 2011 11:50 Kenpachi wrote: what the fuck. this guy cant read or something? You have dismissed me. Repeatedly. The only real refutation you have is this: On April 15 2011 06:46 Kenpachi wrote: hi. anyone who analyzes me is new to this game clearly. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT MOST OF YOUR POINTS OF ME ARE INVALID If you look at my posts carefully, youd notice that i was against voting Protact. Though i didnt say i didnt trust DrH, i didnt. GM was the best choice. Also, i post a mayoral run every game with mayor. Do i get votes? This is the first game where i got a vote. Please look at the current situation when you analyze my posts. Think for a second. Your questionings of my posts are easily answered if you just 1 or 2 pages around my post .... I dont think your scum. you are just trying to be useful because no one analyzes me  Imo, ilovejonn and Wiggles are the most scummy in the game and that list infact was not a joke but a list of my own suspects. Just, im too lazy to back up my reasonings. Besides, i wanted people to respond to it and i included that little paragraph for a reason. please read it carefully (with emphasis on the like). Ill do in 2 days or so (if im not too lazy then because thats when my break begins  ) but just telling you, my analyses are inaccurate as i was wrong on iGrok and wrong on everyone before that.Conclusion: you are a newbie in TL Mafia. Welcome! You say GM is the best choice, yet despite being active around the deadline post that you think your vote is on the wrong guy and don't change it. You claim that I should be disregarded because I'm new and noone analyses you. On April 16 2011 11:06 DropBear wrote: I've had a more detailed look through your history and I can't see any pattern at all no matter what role you have. I'll lay off you for the moment but you've still piqued my interest. It's understandable to me now. Why was it terrible exactly? On April 15 2011 12:52 GGQ wrote: I'd like to see your argument, actually. You've just dismissed the accusation over and over. I trust DropBear more than you at this point. Let's see what you have to say for yourself. I don't see any really good defences here. On April 16 2011 11:52 Kenpachi wrote: wasnt half bad? it made no stance on me being mafia No stance? I gave a very strong stance. I said out and out that I suspected you. On April 16 2011 12:21 Kenpachi wrote: haha dude why dont you respond to me DropBear? Now I have. Could you respond to me please? | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On April 16 2011 12:21 Kenpachi wrote: haha dude why dont you respond to me DropBear? Do you ever type more then one line? DropBear, don't even bother responding to Kenpachi. If he's scum, he's got so little say in this town that he's barely worth a lynch even if another DT decided to claim. Hopefully ken gets some balls to start making real posts. DropBear, keep doing your thing, I'm listening. | ||
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
On April 12 2011 13:32 jaminz wrote: I realize I've been inactive for pretty much the entire game so far, and I don't really have a great excuse other than that I've been a bit busy lately. However, I'm working my way through the thread right now, and plan to be completely caught up by the end of the night. I've only played one game of Mafia before (Haunted Mafia this past Halloween - put on by Doctor H), so I'm still fairly new to the game, but I'm doing what I can to take everything in. Thanks in advance for everyone being patient with me. Okay, maybe 1 or 2 people called him/her out for being inactive and he felt the need to defend/explain why this is so. I did not read this post in context but this isn't really one of the important posts. However the bolded part is something to take note of, perhaps newer players feel the need to say nice things such as "thanks" or "sorry" in order to compensate the inherent guilt they have for being mafia. On April 12 2011 13:39 jaminz wrote: I'll be completely honest about that one, and you can ridicule me all you want for it: I was nervous that I'd be modkilled for not voting, and wanted to make sure I had a vote in before things got too out of hand so I voted for Dr. H. I know he knows how to play the game, and my gut said he was the one to pick. Alright, this post I can understand. People have stuff to do IRL and this guy's scum read at the beginning of the game is Dr. H, so he votes him. On April 13 2011 11:55 jaminz wrote: Man, this game is pretty intense. I'm having a bit of trouble keeping up, but I'm working on it. It seems like Bumatlarge, DoctorH, and GMarshal have all had a lot of analysis done on them so far, so I'll try to look at a few of the other players and post whatever analysis I can. I didn't read in context again, but jaminz was laying so low I don't think anyone called him out on being inactive at that time? But he comes out of no where to say nothing but he is working on reading and catching up on the thread. Says he'll do analysis. Look at the time stamp, it is April 13 TL time, and it's April 16 TL time right now. This is a clear guilt trip post to make people not call him out on being inactive. On April 15 2011 16:09 jaminz wrote: It's definitely interesting to read everything. It's much easier when we don't get mass pages of posts quickly, but I guess that's how you figure out who is mafia isn't it. The most important post of all. What this post tells me is that jaminz knows or thinks he knows how people think they can catch scum. By reading posts. In that sense, the more you post the more likely you'll get found out! Newbie mafia mistake? Do note, that all the quotes I have are all the posts jaminz has had so far. I also felt that the need for him to quote and respond to Coag's question was probably because jaminz and Coag is on the same scum team. On April 15 2011 13:56 jaminz wrote: #Vote DoctorHelvetica it's a placeholder, yell at me if you want This was near the end of Day 2, when GM was about to get lynched. It is April 15. jaminz said that he would do analysis on April 13. Even if he did not, there were CLEAR targets for her to put a placeholder vote on. Who does he put it on? Dr. H again. Why? Maybe because he doesn't want to feel bad for voting GM or Coag since they are on the same team. Conclusion: jaminz is mafia. | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
On April 16 2011 12:59 ilovejonn wrote: I have a feeling most of the active players besides the 2 that died aren't RED. Red, I didn't say black. Why? If Coagulation was chosen as their Godfather, I have a feeling there are a few of the newer players in the scum team as well. No offense to Coag of course. Once the GM using Pardon debate sparked up, note how almost NONE of the newer players stood out to say anything other than bandwagon vote in the vote thread. As such I've looked through some of the newer names and here is what I think of jaminz. Okay, maybe 1 or 2 people called him/her out for being inactive and he felt the need to defend/explain why this is so. I did not read this post in context but this isn't really one of the important posts. However the bolded part is something to take note of, perhaps newer players feel the need to say nice things such as "thanks" or "sorry" in order to compensate the inherent guilt they have for being mafia. Alright, this post I can understand. People have stuff to do IRL and this guy's scum read at the beginning of the game is Dr. H, so he votes him. I didn't read in context again, but jaminz was laying so low I don't think anyone called him out on being inactive at that time? But he comes out of no where to say nothing but he is working on reading and catching up on the thread. Says he'll do analysis. Look at the time stamp, it is April 13 TL time, and it's April 16 TL time right now. This is a clear guilt trip post to make people not call him out on being inactive. The most important post of all. What this post tells me is that jaminz knows or thinks he knows how people think they can catch scum. By reading posts. In that sense, the more you post the more likely you'll get found out! Newbie mafia mistake? Do note, that all the quotes I have are all the posts jaminz has had so far. I also felt that the need for him to quote and respond to Coag's question was probably because jaminz and Coag is on the same scum team. This was near the end of Day 2, when GM was about to get lynched. It is April 15. jaminz said that he would do analysis on April 13. Even if he did not, there were CLEAR targets for her to put a placeholder vote on. Who does he put it on? Dr. H again. Why? Maybe because he doesn't want to feel bad for voting GM or Coag since they are on the same team. Conclusion: jaminz is mafia. I really don't think anything you have on him is particularly scummy. Nothing he said indicates mafia to me at all. He hasn't done anything good for the town either though. I bet he is just a newer player. I think the more interesting question is why did you feel the need to try an analysis on him? I give you credit for trying but I don't believe it is scummy at all. Are you just trying to help town out? Are you trying to make people think you are being a productive member of the town? What is your motive here? | ||
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
Also what is with: "Nothing he said indicates mafia to me at all. He hasn't done anything good for the town either though. I bet he is just a newer player." So you agree with him not doing anything good for town, but you don't feel he is scum. Just because he is a new player does not mean he can post as much as he did in this game. Maybe I should just start making smurf accounts to play mafia since no one in here particular care about newer players until they actually talk like DropBear. Oh DropBear is doing analysis, but he is new so ignore him. Oh this guy is inactive but he is new let's ignore him. Argue against the analysis please. | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
I think the quotes you picked out for the analysis does not say anything other than he is a newer and probably timid player. Just because he hasn't done anything good for the town doesn't mean he should be a lynch target. At least he is another body for the town. I don't really understand the last part of your post about smurfing, newer players, and dropbear. Are you just pissed off that your target is mostly lurking? I honestly don't think it's even necessary to go through your analysis and write up why I think it doesn't tell us anything useful. If another poster finds this analysis worthwhile and wants me to take a stab at it let me know. | ||
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
It's 8 am here -.- | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
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AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
1. Jackal58 7. OriginalName LSB 8. Kenpachi 10.Mr. Wiggles 14.Protactinium 13.kevconsim 20.Milkyst 26.DarthThienAn 38.aidnai | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
A whole ton of shit happened. Like, a WHOLE TON OF SHIT. Thus, here are the flips now, I'll add in the flavor tomorrow. Tired. Rush was awesome. Need sleep now. aidnai the Medic has been killed. Protactinium the Assassin has been killed. Serejai the Mafia Goon has been killed. GGQ the Vigilante has been killed. LSB the Townie has been killed. Lemonwalrus the Townie has been killed. Jackal58 the Nosy Neighbor has been killed. Mr. Wiggles the Assassin has been killed. Eiii has won the Assassin game! He has been removed from the game, Everyone say congratulations, Eiii! | ||
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GGQ
Canada2653 Posts
GL town. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
 ggEDIT: Hope it wasn't a damn vigi grr... EDIT 2: Congrats eiii for slipping day 1 and somehow still winning?! | ||
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