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LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
June 11 2010 14:34 GMT
#261
What is tree.hugger's plan? .___.

Also who do you want me to check this night?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 11 2010 15:46 GMT
#262
On June 11 2010 23:32 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
The plan isn't that bad. I could be confusing Jspazz with someone else, I just can't think of who it is right now.


Abenson? It seems like he has a pretty bad reputation in mafia.

4 left to claim:
MooCow
Meeple
Foolishness
Chezinu


For the record I don't think we should lynch Jspazz today. He's probably town. I think we should use him as our sanity test for ludwig. Investigate him tonight, lynch him Day 2.

At this point, I think one of these four should be our target for now. We have about 9 hours until day ends.

It appears as though inactivity may be a little bit of a problem after all. Anyone still flying under the radar should be looked in to.
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
June 11 2010 16:06 GMT
#263
I'm going to shake things up a bit.

If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet.

I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much.
Making history not reliving it.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
June 11 2010 17:12 GMT
#264
On June 11 2010 19:54 Radfield wrote:
I also just noticed we have 4 voters in the voting thread. What the heck people!? Do NOT vote without posting an explanation, that helps the mafia coast. (I realize Chez posted a reason)

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2010 07:51 redtooth wrote:
i vote meeple


Show nested quote +
On June 11 2010 15:15 citi.zen wrote:
## vote ohn


Show nested quote +
On June 11 2010 15:59 Chezinu wrote:
## vote Radfield

aka abstaining for now.. because no one else would dare vote for him, right?


Show nested quote +
On June 11 2010 19:36 Vivi57 wrote:
##Vote: ~OpZ~

It's posts like these:

On June 11 2010 14:28 ohN wrote:
'Forgot about this game lol.
Interesting how we have a lot of greens claiming and not much else.
Everybody should keep claiming imo, puts the mafia in a tough spot and narrows down who we need to look at.


On June 11 2010 14:44 ohN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2010 14:39 citi.zen wrote:
Stating the obvious: the mafia decided to claim green. Nothing surprising there. I am green too -making the green count way too high. All we've done thus far is out 2 blues for the mafia to kill.

Whole point of the plan is to get everybody to claim.
If only like half of us claim it hurts us more than help.


Not much, but I don't see a better candidate right now... so w/e.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 11 2010 17:40 GMT
#265
So as many would have thought, we've ended up with a lot of people claiming green, myself amongst them. As citi.zen said, most likely there will be mafia hiding in this crowd, since we've only had two... wait a minute.

Hmm, MooCow and LuDwig-...

So we have two people claiming Detective. This is going to take some thought, since we also have a Tracker claim--meaning that there'd be a very minimal chance of there being two DTs. So obviously, one of them is lying.

...To PM land we go!

Oh also MooCow I'm not sure how you could have expected LuDwig- to "screw up" on Day 1 seeing as very little to mess up on.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
June 11 2010 17:40 GMT
#266
People you seriously need to get your votes in - thanks.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
June 11 2010 17:50 GMT
#267
Hold your horses flamewheel. L's "plan" awhile back asked vets to claim detective as well in order to confuse mafia.

And people calling me mafia (RoL I'm looking at you) because I mistakenly thought for a second that lynched millers flip townie are fucking retarded. I've been in games where millers were lynched so I never should have thought that, was just a temporary mistake (wasn't a matter of not looking at the rules). So who are we going to lynch today? Guess I'll start with voting for RoL since he started off accuse-happy and claimed townie. I'm always up for lynching MooCow though :D
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
June 11 2010 17:54 GMT
#268
On June 12 2010 02:40 flamewheel wrote:
So as many would have thought, we've ended up with a lot of people claiming green, myself amongst them. As citi.zen said, most likely there will be mafia hiding in this crowd, since we've only had two... wait a minute.

Hmm, MooCow and LuDwig-...

So we have two people claiming Detective. This is going to take some thought, since we also have a Tracker claim--meaning that there'd be a very minimal chance of there being two DTs. So obviously, one of them is lying.

...To PM land we go!

Oh also MooCow I'm not sure how you could have expected LuDwig- to "screw up" on Day 1 seeing as very little to mess up on.

Yea there wasn't really that much to look out for but I thought a mafia would be likely to try an claim a blue role as soon as possible, which he did.

When Chezinu fake shot him, his reaction was funny and I just have a gut feeling he isn't blue/townie unless there happens to be 2 detectives which everyone is saying there is a low chance of that being.



Making history not reliving it.
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
June 11 2010 17:56 GMT
#269
On June 11 2010 19:50 Radfield wrote:
Right now I think we should be looking at AFJ and Jspazz as potential targets for ludwig's sanity check. Theoretically neither of you should be particularly opposed to sacrificing for the town if you're town aligned . Do people Agree? Disagree? Thoughts?

i don't mind being used as a sanity check but I would prefer not to be. also i don't agree with you that posting one-liners = mafia. it's just the way i post.
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
June 11 2010 17:59 GMT
#270
Just read AFJ's posts and I guess he might be a vet or something role claiming a detective.

I guess that is fair but it seemed like he tried to role claim so quick.

I might be wrong but detectives just don't see that strong in this game. There's a 50% chance i'll be completely useless. i.e. Paranoid/Naive.

But if anything does happen to me I think it's safe to say you guys can try lynching LuDwig the next day.
Making history not reliving it.
LuDwig-
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Italy1143 Posts
June 11 2010 18:01 GMT
#271
On June 12 2010 01:06 MooCow wrote:
I'm going to shake things up a bit.

If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet.

I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much.



haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__.

How to discover who is lying?

The plan is quite easy!
[blueTracker[/blue] checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night!
So we will know for sure who is lying

MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=120015&currentpage=98<--Search the HotBid's Post
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
June 11 2010 18:11 GMT
#272
On June 12 2010 03:01 LuDwig- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2010 01:06 MooCow wrote:
I'm going to shake things up a bit.

If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet.

I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much.



haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__.

How to discover who is lying?

The plan is quite easy!
[blueTracker checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night!
So we will know for sure who is lying

MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right?
[/blue]

No, this won't work. What if one of you are the roleblocker? I believe the tracker would see you visiting somebody.
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
June 11 2010 18:12 GMT
#273
Btw we shouldn't lynch Ludwig or MooCow because as of now what they have both claimed is legal by L's plan. We should either go after someone who claimed townie or someone who didn't claim anything.
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
June 11 2010 18:13 GMT
#274
do you know if you're roleblocked or not? cause if the tracker follows the roleblocker and the person who is blocked knows he's roleblocked, then the roleblocker just revealed himself.
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 11 2010 18:16 GMT
#275
On June 12 2010 03:01 LuDwig- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2010 01:06 MooCow wrote:
I'm going to shake things up a bit.

If there's one detective in this game it's ME! I'm the real Detective, not sure about sanity yet.

I didn't role claim etc because I was waiting to see if LuDwig would screw up but he didn't really post that much.



haahah quite easy to claim Detective when we are sending not claiming people to a corner .__.

How to discover who is lying?

The plan is quite easy!
[blueTracker checks this night me or moocow. If one of us is lying tracker will knows that we have visited nobody during the night!
So we will know for sure who is lying

MooCow...i suppose you have not problem following this plan right?
[/blue]
There are a lot of problems with having both "Detectives" visiting the same person, and having the Tracker following one of them. Will detail my messy thoughts below.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
June 11 2010 18:18 GMT
#276
On June 12 2010 02:50 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Hold your horses flamewheel. L's "plan" awhile back asked vets to claim detective as well in order to confuse mafia.

And people calling me mafia (RoL I'm looking at you) because I mistakenly thought for a second that lynched millers flip townie are fucking retarded. I've been in games where millers were lynched so I never should have thought that, was just a temporary mistake (wasn't a matter of not looking at the rules). So who are we going to lynch today? Guess I'll start with voting for RoL since he started off accuse-happy and claimed townie. I'm always up for lynching MooCow though :D

Suspect post - why would you be up for lynching a claimed blue?
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
June 11 2010 18:18 GMT
#277
On June 12 2010 03:13 johnnyspazz wrote:
do you know if you're roleblocked or not? cause if the tracker follows the roleblocker and the person who is blocked knows he's roleblocked, then the roleblocker just revealed himself.

Yea the person you roleblocked will be informed that they were roleblocked.

I'm a bit fearful for my life now that i'm in the open like this so i'm going to ask if there are any kind medics around.

No offence to you LuDwig but is anyone else reading LuDwig posts with a bit of an Italian accent with his grammar and wordings or is it just me?
Making history not reliving it.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
June 11 2010 18:19 GMT
#278
On June 12 2010 03:12 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Btw we shouldn't lynch Ludwig or MooCow because as of now what they have both claimed is legal by L's plan. We should either go after someone who claimed townie or someone who didn't claim anything.

That's better.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 11 2010 18:34 GMT
#279
On June 12 2010 03:12 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Btw we shouldn't lynch Ludwig or MooCow because as of now what they have both claimed is legal by L's plan. We should either go after someone who claimed townie or someone who didn't claim anything.

Agreed. Inactives (I relegate people who don't claim to this section) suck. However, I don't think we'll be having any of the four unclaimed people be inactive by traditional standards. Foolishness is always around, MooCow has proven to be active (though I have a very small sample size to work with), Chezinu spams and PMs, and meeple is always around. I believe if any of these people want/ed to claim, they can do so at their leisure. Lynching a green sounds okay to me because of this.

As for the "both DTs check one person and tracker watches one of the DTs" plan, I had a lot of "what if" thoughts typed up but I think I can list out a few of these points to make this plan ineffective:

1) We have two DTs? Mafia faking DT knows who town is, and so can always claim "sane" to get the right check since the OP states that checks come back Town or Mafia. A real DT won't be able to know his alignment after just one check, and he can be killed off before that (guess it's a medic-mafia cat-and-mouse game on that).
2) Incognito returns DT check results as soon as he gets to them. Forum mafia, as somebody has said above, is a linear game. How do we have the two DTs decide when to release results? Of course, this can easily be remedied by deciding on a set time to release the findings... still, look at 1. Inconclusive at best.
3) Ugh, I'm tired. While there are ways for which this plan can be made tenable, I'm sure, I haven't thought about it yet. Back to PM land...

Also I will not be around at the deadline time. I'll try to make a vote before I leave based on where the thread is at that point (in about 3 hours).
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 11 2010 18:34 GMT
#280
On June 12 2010 03:18 MooCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2010 03:13 johnnyspazz wrote:
do you know if you're roleblocked or not? cause if the tracker follows the roleblocker and the person who is blocked knows he's roleblocked, then the roleblocker just revealed himself.

Yea the person you roleblocked will be informed that they were roleblocked.

I'm a bit fearful for my life now that i'm in the open like this so i'm going to ask if there are any kind medics around.

No offence to you LuDwig but is anyone else reading LuDwig posts with a bit of an Italian accent with his grammar and wordings or is it just me?

Might be just you...
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
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