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Lol, i get back from work and jesus you people have bad reading comprehension.
YES i do tell 3 classes of people to lie about their role. Vet/hatter need to claim to be dt/watcher/tracker. Medic needs to lie in whatever way he feels necessary. Why? Because this forces mafia to lie. If we had everyone claim and we have like only 4 blues total, we KNOW they're legit because the number's hyper low. If we have everyone claim and we have 9 blues, we KNOW some of them are lying. No other role should lie, and the roles that ARE lying should only be lying in the way set out above.
On that note, I'm townie, brosefs.
We have decided there is probably around 4-5 greens
Look at the game numbers. 17 players. 13 town. 4 mafia. 7 blue roles. We're likely to have 4-7 blues max, giving us at the worst 6 greens. The game is 1 kp with 17 players in play. Every correct lynch we have buys us a day. Every medic prot buys us a day. We have potential 3 information roles. With 2 players down a day and a minimum of 8 people alive if we chain-mishit, we have 9 deaths until we're in near death situation. That means we can screw up every single day until day 5 and still win. Given that, I'd be very shocked to see us packing 8-9 blues as per your estimate.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Roleclaiming: Townie
Reading thread now, in after internet outage + moderating my own game.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
(Updated) List partially stolen from Meeple who... has not claimed.
Claims:
Ludwig (Detective)
tree.hugger(Tracker)
Radfield
Ohn
johnnyspazz
AcrossFiveJulys
RebirthOfLeGenD
L
Flamewheel
That's seven townies, and two blues, accounting (if we pretend that the two people in there who are clearly lying aren't) for nine of the thirteen town members.
Keep the roleclaims coming!
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5-6 days is actually huge and I overlooked that the first time I thought about role claiming.
I am a townie
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townie.
please stop distracting the town with day vigi kill commands. you have the entire forum to "have fun", keep the mafia thread pristine as possible. on a side note, so far there seems to be an abnormal number of greens popping.
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The day will finish this night? right?
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'Forgot about this game lol.
Interesting how we have a lot of greens claiming and not much else.
Everybody should keep claiming imo, puts the mafia in a tough spot and narrows down who we need to look at.
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Stating the obvious: the mafia decided to claim green. Nothing surprising there. I am green too -making the green count way too high. All we've done thus far is out 2 blues for the mafia to kill.
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On June 11 2010 14:39 citi.zen wrote:
Stating the obvious: the mafia decided to claim green. Nothing surprising there. I am green too -making the green count way too high. All we've done thus far is out 2 blues for the mafia to kill.
Whole point of the plan is to get everybody to claim.
If only like half of us claim it hurts us more than help.
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[quote]Claims:
Ludwig (Detective)
tree.hugger(Tracker)
Radfield
Ohn
johnnyspazz
AcrossFiveJulys
RebirthOfLeGenD
L
Flamewheel
redtooth
Vivi57
still have to claim:
1. Chezinu
2.citi.zen
3. Foolishness
4. meeple
5. ~OpZ~
6. MooCow
? of ? Detectives remain
? of ? Trackers remain
? of ? Watchers remain
? of ? Medics remain
? of ? Vigilantes remain
? of ? Mad Hatters remain
? of ? Veterans remain
? of ? Millers remain
4 of 4 Mafia remain (this includes Godfather and/or Roleblocker)
? of ? Godfather remain
? of ? Roleblocker remain
? of ? Day Vigilantes remain
My thoughts:
As long as it know it is still possibly that no one said a lie.
4 of the 6 player that have not claimed can be the mafia members. However this seem really too easy ( i believe that someone fake his claim for sure).
However my idea is to lynch one of the person that will not role claim...I suppose this is the only way to make them out of their hidings
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On June 11 2010 06:04 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2010 05:49 Chezinu wrote:
Everyone PM me and talk about anything! riddles are fun..
Now, I shall say something to make this thread active:
This game is dead. 1010 0101 0100 0100 1011 0010 0101 0001 0001 0111 0110 1101 0100 0011 0111 0010 1110 1110
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Where i am not able to find the post :|
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my take:
ludwig and tree hugger are probably legit.
There are 1-2 mafia among the greens and 2-3 that still haven't claimed. The list of non claimers is an excellent place to start looking for scum.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On June 11 2010 10:40 L wrote: Look at the game numbers. 17 players. 13 town. 4 mafia. 7 blue roles. We're likely to have 4-7 blues max, giving us at the worst 6 greens. The game is 1 kp with 17 players in play. Every correct lynch we have buys us a day. Every medic prot buys us a day. We have potential 3 information roles. With 2 players down a day and a minimum of 8 people alive if we chain-mishit, we have 9 deaths until we're in near death situation. That means we can screw up every single day until day 5 and still win. Given that, I'd be very shocked to see us packing 8-9 blues as per your estimate.
I failed to realize how a mafia KP of 1 gives us so much time. On that note it seems quite unlikely for the town to have 6 or 7 blue roles, as we would be seriously overpowered, even if mafia had a roleblocker/godfather/dayvig. I would think we have a medic out there, and probably one of vig/vet/hatter, but that might be it.
During the night we need to pick someone for ludwig to check, and then lynch that person on day 2 to figure out his sanity. I have a few ideas in mind, but we don't need to start talking about that just yet necessarily. In fact, it might make more sense to PM our suggestions to tree.hugger and Ludwig, and let them make the final call together, as they are both highly likely to be town aligned. The reason to keep it private would be so the mafia can't snipe that player first and delay us finding out Ludwig's sanity.
Since we have about twelve hours, I'm putting forward some lynch suspects:
Johnnyspazz: Four posts in the thread, all of them one liners.
AcrossFiveJulys: Made some bad arguments against roleclaiming, moderate amount of spamming. This was his roleclaim:
I agree that at this point we are committed to this potentially shitty plan because our "tracker" and "detective" have RC'd. I don't mind role claiming townie for myself, at least. If anyone can think of a good way to put the brakes on the plan even though a couple "blues" have RC'd then please post how to do so, otherwise let's go forward with the plan even though it sucks because it's worse to just give the mafia a few blues and then stop.
Something about this roleclaim seemed off to me, but I can't really put my finger on it.
Both of these are good lynch targets in my eyes, but FIRST AND FOREMOST, any non roleclaimers need to be looked at in my opinion. We need information on the table, and people who don't claim are hindering the town at this point.
Right now I think we should be looking at AFJ and Jspazz as potential targets for ludwig's sanity check. Theoretically neither of you should be particularly opposed to sacrificing for the town if you're town aligned  . Do people Agree? Disagree? Thoughts?
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
I also just noticed we have 4 voters in the voting thread. What the heck people!? Do NOT vote without posting an explanation, that helps the mafia coast. (I realize Chez posted a reason)
On June 10 2010 07:51 redtooth wrote:
i vote meeple
On June 11 2010 15:15 citi.zen wrote:
## vote ohn
On June 11 2010 15:59 Chezinu wrote:
## vote Radfield
aka abstaining for now.. because no one else would dare vote for him, right?
On June 11 2010 19:36 Vivi57 wrote:
##Vote: ~OpZ~
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If I am not much mistaken, JohnnySpazz is just not a very good player and always looks generally fishy. I wouldn't mind getting his confusion/potential mafianess out of the way early.
Although some of the things AFJ said were kind of "...wtf?" he didn't even read the rules for one of them, I generally think that is mafiaish, having not read the rules correctly because I used to just skim them when I was mafia and not read 100% because it wasn't as important, after a few fuck ups I started always reading it a couple of times.
Oh and L, sorry I must of just missed that in your post, I assume when we finally confirm one player we have the Vigi/MH legitimately role claim to them via PM, so we drop some confusion.
Also lol@9 greens role claiming.
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On June 11 2010 15:37 Chezinu wrote:
I just claimed above!
Seriously? PM me?
Also, the mafia seems to be doing almost exactly what Radfield suggested they might do; 3 townies, 1 blue. Which means that we can lynch with a little less worry, perhaps.
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On June 11 2010 22:16 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
If I am not much mistaken, JohnnySpazz is just not a very good player and always looks generally fishy. I wouldn't mind getting his confusion/potential mafianess out of the way early.
Although some of the things AFJ said were kind of "...wtf?" he didn't even read the rules for one of them, I generally think that is mafiaish, having not read the rules correctly because I used to just skim them when I was mafia and not read 100% because it wasn't as important, after a few fuck ups I started always reading it a couple of times.
Oh and L, sorry I must of just missed that in your post, I assume when we finally confirm one player we have the Vigi/MH legitimately role claim to them via PM, so we drop some confusion.
Also lol@9 greens role claiming.
Spazz ain't really that bad...He has his moments. He has nothing on BM, or Chez on a bad day, just he isn't as funny. He has a few posts of good content in some other games.
I'm green. -_-
Why did we have to get stuck with this shitty plan. I'm all for slaughtering L for this PoS plan, so I guess I'ma fall in that tree.hugger camp. Even though tree.hugger was the first to claim....ridiculous.
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The plan isn't that bad. I could be confusing Jspazz with someone else, I just can't think of who it is right now.
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