EPTI feel Ace is suspicious. So I voted. I was accused of fluff, it's gone.
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
I feel Ace is suspicious. So I voted. I was accused of fluff, it's gone. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On June 11 2012 11:12 gonzaw wrote: Did you read the post I made about him? Grey explicitly said he was eager for analysis; he implicitly said he'd be eager to start making analysis himself (if he wasn't, then that was a contradiction from him and even scummier). BB never said he'd be eager for such, for all I know he's a bored townie that doesn't care shit about anything. Grey wasn't, he was eager to get the game started and post content, but he failed to produce it. Brownbear specifically says "so, let's spark some real discussion. chaoser, what do you have against ace this game. question mark goes here." You yourself JUST said you were "a little bit suspicious" of him but now he "might be a bored townie"? Your reasoning is shitty, but I still think greymist is still scum so let's agree to disagree on how shitty your reasoning is cause I don't want to shit up the thread anymore and I know your tendency to spam like no tomorrow. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On June 11 2012 11:18 GreYMisT wrote: By "everything that's going on" you mean accusations against me. I feel Ace is suspicious. So I voted. I was accused of fluff, it's gone. What happened to your suspicions on Wiggles? | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
On June 11 2012 11:18 VisceraEyes wrote: By which I mean will you lynch him with me? I actually had to think about this for a bit. My answer is going to be no, it's both early in the day and I've reread the thread a bit and am liking the greymist case especially given his recent posts. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
I'll probably be lynched today regardless of what I say due to mob mentality, gonzaw turning everything I say around into a scum agenda, and fear of lynching the big players. What I'm going to do is try to get us on the right track so we have somewhere to move tomorrow. Gonzaw, while I do think your reasoning consists mainly of over eagerness, I think you're town for the moment. With that in mind give me reasons not to vote Ace, aside from "grey is a better target" | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On June 11 2012 11:23 chaoser wrote: Brownbear specifically says "so, let's spark some real discussion. chaoser, what do you have against ace this game. question mark goes here." You yourself JUST said you were "a little bit suspicious" of him but now he "might be a bored townie"? Your reasoning is shitty, but I still think greymist is still scum so let's agree to disagree on how shitty your reasoning is cause I don't want to shit up the thread anymore and I know your tendency to spam like no tomorrow. Could you stop arguing with me please? Yes, I may have missed BB's post when I tried to analyze Grey. Hell, he could be scum as well, along with Grey (or SK, whatever). The fact that I missed it doesn't mean shit on what I wrote about Grey. I don't need to lynch both scum today, one suffices (and is in fact the only thing I can do...you know....you can't double-lynch and shit). Yes the "he might be a bored townie" part may have been an exaggeration. Water under the bridge, the enemy of my enemy is my friend (unless you are SK, in which case the enemy of the enemy of the friend of my enemy which is still the enemy of my enemy is my friend). On June 11 2012 11:31 GreYMisT wrote: Wiggles has posted more content then ace. My suspicion is still there, but Ace is more concerning for me. I'll probably be lynched today regardless of what I say due to mob mentality, gonzaw turning everything I say around into a scum agenda, and fear of lynching the big players. What I'm going to do is try to get us on the right track so we have somewhere to move tomorrow. Gonzaw, while I do think your reasoning consists mainly of over eagerness, I think you're town for the moment. With that in mind give me reasons not to vote Ace, aside from "grey is a better target" Ehmm...everybody except me in this game is a "big player". If had fear of lynching a big player then I'd have to vote for myself. Grey, there has been thorough discussion about: -VE -Radfield And you completely ignored both. You were also asked to make reads with more content (on Wiggles for instance), and you didn't. Instead you ignored everything and created more chaos by adding a guy (that you failed to acknowledged at all before) to the lynch candidate mix for shitty reasons. No, Ace is barely trying this game, and he's acting just like in Liar Game; just fooling around. If he were scum he'd be more manipulative by now, instead of "yeah RNG lynch k koo". The great thing is that if he's scum he wouldn't do that, and that's true (unless someone posts a counter-example). Not only that, I'm sure you know that as well, considering you've been interacting with Ace way longer than I have, which is why your vote was scummy as shit. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On June 11 2012 11:59 gonzaw wrote: Could you stop arguing with me please? Yes, I may have missed BB's post when I tried to analyze Grey. Hell, he could be scum as well, along with Grey (or SK, whatever). The fact that I missed it doesn't mean shit on what I wrote about Grey. I don't need to lynch both scum today, one suffices (and is in fact the only thing I can do...you know....you can't double-lynch and shit). Yes the "he might be a bored townie" part may have been an exaggeration. Water under the bridge, the enemy of my enemy is my friend (unless you are SK, in which case the enemy of the enemy of the friend of my enemy which is still the enemy of my enemy is my friend). Ehmm...everybody except me in this game is a "big player". If had fear of lynching a big player then I'd have to vote for myself. Grey, there has been thorough discussion about: -VE -Radfield And you completely ignored both. You were also asked to make reads with more content (on Wiggles for instance), and you didn't. Instead you ignored everything and created more chaos by adding a guy (that you failed to acknowledged at all before) to the lynch candidate mix for shitty reasons. No, Ace is barely trying this game, and he's acting just like in Liar Game; just fooling around. If he were scum he'd be more manipulative by now, instead of "yeah RNG lynch k koo". The great thing is that if he's scum he wouldn't do that, and that's true (unless someone posts a counter-example). Not only that, I'm sure you know that as well, considering you've been interacting with Ace way longer than I have, which is why your vote was scummy as shit. Never been in a game with Ace | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
I'm sure you don't even know who Ace is. Is he one of those noobs that played the Newbie Games these past few games? I think he is. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On June 11 2012 12:02 gonzaw wrote: Right, you never hosted a game with Ace in it, nor you ever observed a game with Ace in it. I'm sure you don't even know who Ace is. Is he one of those noobs that played the Newbie Games these past few games? I think he is. Well now you're just being disruptive and trying to get me emotional. Regardless, I have voted the way I have voted. Deal with it. I'll need to see more from a majority of the playerlist before I can make more informed decisions. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
I'm still waiting for your contributions and "analysis" I'll need to see more from a majority of the playerlist before I can make more informed decisions. I don't want you to make a decision, I want you to prove to us that you are town. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On June 11 2012 12:12 gonzaw wrote: Nope, it's not an attempt to make you emotional but an attempt to show the absurdity of what you've just said (well...if you don't really know who Ace is then sorry I guess >_> ) I'm still waiting for your contributions and "analysis" I don't want you to make a decision, I want you to prove to us that you are town. Wouldn't you know it, I left all of my proof back where all the other players are lurking. Maybe one of them can bring some to me | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On June 11 2012 12:17 gonzaw wrote: Yeah I'm sure they can bring it to you in the Obs QT when they die after you (Bam! )carefull, you are starting to sound like Risk.nuke You arn't going to become one of those crazy tunnely players I hate are you? | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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gonzaw
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
First off, I was indeed very occupied most of the day the game started and today, though obviously I have gotten back into the thread. This means I was unable to make giant posts, or post at all when i wanted to. That being said, I got home, saw I was being accused of not providing reads, and just gave you 3 gut reads. Upon a reread of people I was unsure of, I decided at the moment that I was most suspicious of Ace and voted him. Now, back to the present. Would scum GreYMisT vote Ace? out of the blue? please, give me credit. I already stated suspicion of wiggles, as you so pointed out. in fact, others have as well. It would make much more sense for me to vote wiggles. Yes, i could be doing this as a massive scheme, but would it be worth the risk? probably not. My most recent somewhat normal game as town was probably Election mafia, and probably steamship as scum. Not sure if it would help since you would be comparing day 1 behavior, but feel free to look at those games, let me know if you want more. Thats all im going to do for defense. Feel free to ask questions and I'll answer them. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Okay then, I'll ask you some questions then (although I was hoping you'd post your opinion on them without being asked to): What are your thoughts on the current discussion? Do you agree with Hesmyrr's case on VE (how the hell did you miss it?) ? Do you agree with VE's and MZ's "case" against Radfield (again how the hell did you miss it?) ? Do you have a more thorough analysis of Wiggles' play? What about the things we've been mentioning about him? Do you agree with them or not? Why or why not? Why exactly do you think Ace is more suspicious than say...BrownBear? Do you think this would fit Ace's scum play? Do you think he's just trolling or something as scum (unlike his "normal" scum play?) ? Considering Ace played almost exactly like this on Liar Game (and he was town), what would you say about it? Would you still find him suspicious? If you still think he's scum in base of all these, then make a more thorough explanation.. If you are town, you already have lots of opinions...just post them (it shouldn't be too hard...you already own said opinions, you don't have to fake them or anything). | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Gandalf the Greymist wrote: Now, back to the present. Would scum GreYMisT vote Ace? out of the blue? please, give me credit. I already stated suspicion of wiggles, as you so pointed out. in fact, others have as well. It would make much more sense for me to vote wiggles. Yes, i could be doing this as a massive scheme, but would it be worth the risk? probably not. And please don't bring up those "Why would I do X? If I was scum it would be absurd for me to do X" arguments. There have been a lot of scum in previous games of mine (VE and Toad in LI, Risen in LIII) that have done "absurd" things and used them to try and convince people they were town. So just....stop, I won't take them into account, specially if you immediately mention your towniness because of them.. | ||
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