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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On June 11 2012 11:00 GreYMisT wrote: In any case, I am very worried about Ace after rereading. Particularly his post asking for caoser to respond to something someone else said without providing us anything, as well as saying he is down for an RNG lynch and then disappearing without again, giving us anything. ##Vote: Ace That's not a scumtell. What makes you think Ace is scum because of this? Take note that I'm not saying he's town, I'm just saying that this particular argument tells us nothing about his alignment. Supporting an RNG lynch is not a bad idea. It's a net gain for town, as long as you settle the target early enough. It will actually help a lot trying to figure out what really is going on in the game. It creates an unusual situation that most people aren't sure how to react to, and it's in an unstable environment it's easiest to catch mafia. The point is that you can't really explain that in the thread (hence why I didn't) because as soon as everyone realizes you're meant to argue about whether you actually follow through with the random lynch, instead of just executing it, everyone will start thinking about it like a normal case based on analysis, and the advantage will have been lost. I'm hoping some of you remember this for future games, I've yet to successfully push through the idea of a RL because of it's inherent flaw that you can't explain it. It's like why arguing about LAL is dumb as shit. As soon as you argue about it, you've given people an excuse to lie. You just shut your stupid face and say that it's a 100% solid policy and liars WILL be lynched, while secretly keeping yourself in check and being ready to go against that position. Anyway, enough about how to play mafia. @BrownBear, The information I withheld is crucial to the execution of the plan, as I explained above. You seem to be going after a pretty easy reason to lynch someone, is this because you're being lazy or cause you're scum? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On June 11 2012 13:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: What is it with people absolutely losing their heads when they get accused these days. Grey please just take a step back, though you may not think you are, you're coming across very defensive. Also I'm just gonna say right now I'm EXTREMELY wary of lynching VE. He's been mislynched two games in a row (I was directly responsible for one of them). While that does not excuse him from scrutiny, I'm gonna have a hard time voting for his lynch. hehehehehhe. So who's up for lynching meapak with me? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
I'll try to catch up at lunch, and will have plenty of time this evening. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On June 11 2012 18:29 Palmar wrote: hehehehehhe. So who's up for lynching meapak with me? while i find his logic bad, Do you really think saying that would push a scum agenda? Additionally, In my post that you quoted above, I did not vote ace because he supported RNG, I voted him because he supported RNG and then just left without talking about how he wanted it done or anything. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
Meapak is just being a scared little pussy, read his posts through, time to kill. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
The point is that he's using bad logic to avoid reaching a conclusion. If he was using bad logic to actually do something with it, like conclude someone he wanted to lynch, or decide that someone is town, I'd not be so eager to kill him. It's the fact that he's basically saying nothing for no reason that makes him scum. Now, about VisceraEyes, there isn't a case against him yet, and meapak is much more likely to flip scum anyway. VE has a nice habit of looking ridiculously much like town when he is one, so we'll know soon enough. The reason VE has been getting mislynched is because mafia has been pushing the idea he's scum, not because he has been scummy, or that was at least the case in Liar Game. I was scum myself and just chose to ignore the fact he was looking pretty towny. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On June 11 2012 22:21 Palmar wrote: To clarify, the logic is terrible, but that doesn't make him scum. While using bad logic may be an indicator of someone being scum, it's not conclusive, because townies tend to be well... dumb. The point is that he's using bad logic to avoid reaching a conclusion. If he was using bad logic to actually do something with it, like conclude someone he wanted to lynch, or decide that someone is town, I'd not be so eager to kill him. It's the fact that he's basically saying nothing for no reason that makes him scum. Now, about VisceraEyes, there isn't a case against him yet, and meapak is much more likely to flip scum anyway. VE has a nice habit of looking ridiculously much like town when he is one, so we'll know soon enough. The reason VE has been getting mislynched is because mafia has been pushing the idea he's scum, not because he has been scummy, or that was at least the case in Liar Game. I was scum myself and just chose to ignore the fact he was looking pretty towny. Thanks, that makes sense. While you are on a roll of clarity, I would like to hear your opinion on chaoser. I'm a bit worried with regards to him | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On June 11 2012 14:10 GreYMisT wrote: I'm going to go for now. Chaoser, i'd like to know who you think is mafia aside from me. So far your case on me that I can see is pretty much just not finding VE's usage of the word "Vanilla Townie" scummy. (btw my Role PM doesn't even mention the words Vanilla or Townie/Towny). While I complete my homework of contributing tomorrow, I would like you to do the same. Obviously you are not reading my posts since that is hardly the reason why I am voting for you. I even specifically said in my posts the reason why I was suspicious of you. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On June 11 2012 09:43 chaoser wrote: The fact that you show no suspicion to the usage of terms along with the rest of your posting makes me extremely suspicious of you. ##vote: greymist | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
 I can get down on an MZ lynch. I noticed the same thing when he made that statement about me and he ignored when I asked him about it. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=341558¤tpage=12#223 Your previous posts were the ones that lead me to be suspicious of you, your weird response to the townie/towny post (which might have just been me thinking everyone would think like me but they didn't so your reaction is less suspicious now though still in my mind) was just the last drop in the bucket. And seeing as how you're here, you've got less than 12 hours till end of day yo. And you still haven't been doing much of anything. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On June 12 2012 00:20 chaoser wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=341558¤tpage=12#223 Your previous posts were the ones that lead me to be suspicious of you, your weird response to the townie/towny post (which might have just been me thinking everyone would think like me but they didn't so your reaction is less suspicious now though still in my mind) was just the last drop in the bucket. And seeing as how you're here, you've got less than 12 hours till end of day yo. And you still haven't been doing much of anything. I really do need to get better about sleep posting | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
Gonzaw: questions why I would vote for Ace and not other inactive players. I don't think gonzaw is scum Chaoser: Uses my vote as part of his justification to jump onto me after calling Gonzaw's case bad. i can see both town and mafia reasons for doing this. I'm regarding this reaction as a null. Ace: No real reaction other than asking me some questions. As far as the current, active, players. I agree with Palmar in lynching MZ. I was initially suspicous of him with my post here: On June 11 2012 13:37 GreYMisT wrote: And woah woah woah. You are hesitant to vote VE because of misslynching him under completely different circumstances in a different game? But did not follow up on it because I thought he might be using just really bad logic. I like Palmar's argument regarding him though, So i'd be willing to lynch him today. Also chaoser, you never answered my question. who aside from me do you want to lynch? | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
##Vote: Mr. Wiggles | ||
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